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Nie. Od gwiazdy "Arcturus itself is the brightest star in the Bootes constellation, which is approximately thirty-six light years from Earth. "
Oni tez maja swoich Bogów;).
Kochaja bo osiagneli taki stopien rozwoju ze milosc i pokoj to ich nadrzedne wartosci.
Zaraz Borkos wejdzie i napisze mi zebym sie leczyl ale ja w to wierze:D
Przypominam , ze odkowana wiadomosc z dark satellite pochodzila od alienow wlasnie z tego obszaru galaktyki
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Oni tez maja swoich Bogów;).
Kochaja bo osiagneli taki stopien rozwoju ze milosc i pokoj to ich nadrzedne wartosci.
Zaraz Borkos wejdzie i napisze mi zebym sie leczyl ale ja w to wierze:D
Przypominam , ze odkowana wiadomosc z dark satellite pochodzila od alienow wlasnie z tego obszaru galaktyki
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sciema:)
wyglada jak sr72 blackbird swoja droga:)
po 1 kto zdekodowal ten sygnal i jak? gdzie ten sygnal jest dostepny?
po 2 na jakiej podstawie ustalono, ze ten satelita ma 13 tysiecy lat? na podstawie niewyraznych zdjec? :D :D
wyglada jak sr72 blackbird swoja droga:)
po 1 kto zdekodowal ten sygnal i jak? gdzie ten sygnal jest dostepny?
po 2 na jakiej podstawie ustalono, ze ten satelita ma 13 tysiecy lat? na podstawie niewyraznych zdjec? :D :D
swoja droga podobno to zauwazono w latach 50tych...podobno Tesla slyszal z tego sygnaly jakies...
no ale przeciez Tesla w 43 roku to juz w grobie lezal :P
no ale przeciez Tesla w 43 roku to juz w grobie lezal :P
to nie jest sciema. Znajdz mi na internecie ze tosciema i ze to zlom. W sumie moze znajdziesz(bo tak mozna sugerowac) ale prawda taka ze informacje o tej satelicie siegaja lat 50tych kiedy to jeszcze zadnej innej satelity nie bylo na orbicie wiec skad cos takiego?
Nie wiem kto zdekodowal ale pewnie sa tacy co znaja temat w szczegolach:). Tesla pierwszy odbieral z niej sygnaly;)
Co do wieku nie wiem:>
Czepiasz sie szczegolow..skoro odberal sygnaly tesla to znaczy ze jeszcze zyl:D
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Nie wiem kto zdekodowal ale pewnie sa tacy co znaja temat w szczegolach:). Tesla pierwszy odbieral z niej sygnaly;)
Co do wieku nie wiem:>
Czepiasz sie szczegolow..skoro odberal sygnaly tesla to znaczy ze jeszcze zyl:D
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tego calego black knighta juz dawno obalono, przeczytaj sobie. okazuje sie ze te wszystkie dowody i poszlaki to byly sciemy.
What a great story. The idea of a 13,000-year-old alien satellite orbiting the Earth is about as exciting as it can get. People often accuse me of debunking stories like this, but I don't see it that way at all. I simply want to know more. I want to open the box wider and learn what's really going on. I don't want to stop here and say "That sounds weird"; I want to learn the solution to the mystery. To those of you who dismiss this as debunking, I really have to say I don't understand why learning the whole story is seen as a negative process. I'm excited by it, and I was excited to learn what's behind the Black Knight satellite. Here's what I found.
It turns out that all the bits of history making up the story of Black Knight are unrelated. The phrase "black knight" is so common that I was unable to determine when that name first became a part of the story. It seems improbable that the name would have come from any spacefaring nations at the time, as it's such a common name and has probably been assigned to any number of real projects. From 1958 through 1965, the United Kingdom launched 22 rockets in a program named Black Knight, intended to test various re-entry vehicles. But Black Knight never put anything into orbit; indeed, its second stage fired on the way down, not the way up, to better stress the re-entry vehicle. Take that name out of the equation, and all the links of the chain fall apart. All the events said to be connected to the Black Knight satellite were well documented on their own, and none (at the time) made any mention of such a name.
Nicola Tesla did indeed pick up rhythmic radio signals in 1899, and he did believe they came from space. Today we believe he was correct, and that what he picked up were pulsars, giant deep space sources of pulsing radio signals that were formally discovered in 1968. As pulsars were unknown in Tesla's day, he did his best to explain what he thought they might be: intelligent but undeciphered signals.
The Norwegian scientists did indeed receive LDE radio reflections, and their cause remains nearly as much a mystery today as it did then. Today we have five probable explanations, any or all of which may be responsible for some LDEs, and they mostly pertain to strange effects in the Earth's ionosphere. They are among about 15 plausible explanations. None of these includes orbiting alien satellites; although if an alien satellite elected to enter our orbit, record our transmissions, and transmit them back to us 8 seconds later, it could well have the same effect.
When Duncan Lunan did his translation of the LDE data in 1973 and came up with the star map, he never had any thought of Black Knight or any other strange polar satellite. In fact his interpretation was that the LDEs were coming from the Earth's L5 Lagrangian point. L4 and L5 are two points along the moon's orbit, one 60° ahead of it and the other 60° behind, which are stable and where gravimetric effects from the Earth and Moon will hold an object in steady orbit. Moreover, Lunan later acknowledged that his method was not only unscientific but that he'd made outright errors, and retracted it. So despite today's pop-culture story, there never has been any reasonable interpretation of anything connecting Epsilon Boötis to either a mysterious satellite or to a date of 12,600 years ago.
Those 1954 newspaper reports of two satellites in orbit? It was merely tongue-in-cheek reporting of the wild claims of a UFO crank trying to sell a book. The Air Force officer cited was merely a guy who had seen a UFO once, but in no way corroborated the idea of unknown satellites orbiting Earth. Nothing to do with the alleged Black Knight.
The most interesting part of the story was in 1960, when the Discoverer satellites were being launched. Secretary of the Air Force Dudley Sharp told newspapers that this new mystery object was probably the second casing from Discoverer VIII, the twin of the known piece they were already tracking, as it was the right size and in about the right place. This was soon confirmed. TIME magazine even reported the identification, but since a mundane explanation is not as exciting as a mystery object, it was back page news.
And there's another interesting footnote about the Discoverer program. In 1992, a Central Intelligence Agency program called Corona was declassified, and revealed that the Discoverer rockets were not about launching guys into space at all, but were actually carrying Corona spy satellites. The reason to use a polar orbit is that the craft eventually flies over every part of the Earth, and it's possible to photograph everything; unlike conventional semi-equatorial orbits that can only cover within a certain range of latitude. Back in those days there was no such thing as transmitting digital images back to Earth, so film cameras had to be used, and the film had to be dropped back to Earth to be developed and studied. The Corona KH-1 camera would de-orbit, pop a parachute, and then the parachute would be captured mid-air by a JC-130 recovery aircraft.
So although the entire Discoverer program was a front, the launches and results reported in newspapers at the time were indeed correct according to what was later declassified. The Corona camera aboard Discoverer VIII was indeed lost exactly as reported in the 1960 newspapers, and its casings and their eccentric orbit were also correctly reported.
So what was it that Gordon Cooper saw from Mercury 9, and that was corroborated by all those radar operators? According to Cooper himself (who died in 2004), what he saw was nothing at all. But make no mistake, Gordon Cooper reported seeing many UFOs during his flight career. He remains adamant about a fleet of UFOs that he says flew overhead while he was stationed in Germany, though nobody else there reports having known anything about it. But Cooper is also adamant that the Mercury 9 UFO — his supposed sighting of a greenish Black Knight in 1963 — is a complete fabrication by UFO authors that never happened. He offered all the transcripts, including his own originals, as proof that no such thing was reported during his flight. The story appears in virtually every UFO book about the Black Knight case, but there's no record of any such thing from NASA, from the radar station personnel, or from any contemporary source. It's purely an invention of modern writers.
So that leaves us with Endeavor's STS-88 flight, and their startling photographs of a spacecraft. There are a lot of things wrong with this part of the story. First of all, the shuttle always flew in a semi-equatorial orbit, as does the International Space Station. An object passing in a polar orbit would have gone by at tens of thousands of kilometers per hour, far too fast to be visible, and certainly far too fast for so many high-quality photos to be taken. During one of the astronauts' EVAs, a thermal blanket was lost and drifted away — silver on one side and black on the other. It was photographed extensively. It was crumpled and formed an odd shape. If you didn't know what to expect, the average person would have no clue what it was. But, unfortunately for the legend and fortunately for the astronauts, it simply wasn't an alien satellite.
I had a lot of fun learning more about this story. I learned a lot of history and some astronomical facts I didn't know. I'm glad I took the trouble, because if I had simply accepted the story that there's an alien satellite orbiting the Earth, I'd be wrong and I wouldn't have learned anything new. Worse, I'd have made a logical error, in being forced to accept a whole galaxy of wrong assumptions in order to shoehorn an improbable alien satellite into my reality. Neither legend nor mere debunking lead anywhere useful; it's only by tracking down the true facts that we earn the real rewards.
What a great story. The idea of a 13,000-year-old alien satellite orbiting the Earth is about as exciting as it can get. People often accuse me of debunking stories like this, but I don't see it that way at all. I simply want to know more. I want to open the box wider and learn what's really going on. I don't want to stop here and say "That sounds weird"; I want to learn the solution to the mystery. To those of you who dismiss this as debunking, I really have to say I don't understand why learning the whole story is seen as a negative process. I'm excited by it, and I was excited to learn what's behind the Black Knight satellite. Here's what I found.
It turns out that all the bits of history making up the story of Black Knight are unrelated. The phrase "black knight" is so common that I was unable to determine when that name first became a part of the story. It seems improbable that the name would have come from any spacefaring nations at the time, as it's such a common name and has probably been assigned to any number of real projects. From 1958 through 1965, the United Kingdom launched 22 rockets in a program named Black Knight, intended to test various re-entry vehicles. But Black Knight never put anything into orbit; indeed, its second stage fired on the way down, not the way up, to better stress the re-entry vehicle. Take that name out of the equation, and all the links of the chain fall apart. All the events said to be connected to the Black Knight satellite were well documented on their own, and none (at the time) made any mention of such a name.
Nicola Tesla did indeed pick up rhythmic radio signals in 1899, and he did believe they came from space. Today we believe he was correct, and that what he picked up were pulsars, giant deep space sources of pulsing radio signals that were formally discovered in 1968. As pulsars were unknown in Tesla's day, he did his best to explain what he thought they might be: intelligent but undeciphered signals.
The Norwegian scientists did indeed receive LDE radio reflections, and their cause remains nearly as much a mystery today as it did then. Today we have five probable explanations, any or all of which may be responsible for some LDEs, and they mostly pertain to strange effects in the Earth's ionosphere. They are among about 15 plausible explanations. None of these includes orbiting alien satellites; although if an alien satellite elected to enter our orbit, record our transmissions, and transmit them back to us 8 seconds later, it could well have the same effect.
When Duncan Lunan did his translation of the LDE data in 1973 and came up with the star map, he never had any thought of Black Knight or any other strange polar satellite. In fact his interpretation was that the LDEs were coming from the Earth's L5 Lagrangian point. L4 and L5 are two points along the moon's orbit, one 60° ahead of it and the other 60° behind, which are stable and where gravimetric effects from the Earth and Moon will hold an object in steady orbit. Moreover, Lunan later acknowledged that his method was not only unscientific but that he'd made outright errors, and retracted it. So despite today's pop-culture story, there never has been any reasonable interpretation of anything connecting Epsilon Boötis to either a mysterious satellite or to a date of 12,600 years ago.
Those 1954 newspaper reports of two satellites in orbit? It was merely tongue-in-cheek reporting of the wild claims of a UFO crank trying to sell a book. The Air Force officer cited was merely a guy who had seen a UFO once, but in no way corroborated the idea of unknown satellites orbiting Earth. Nothing to do with the alleged Black Knight.
The most interesting part of the story was in 1960, when the Discoverer satellites were being launched. Secretary of the Air Force Dudley Sharp told newspapers that this new mystery object was probably the second casing from Discoverer VIII, the twin of the known piece they were already tracking, as it was the right size and in about the right place. This was soon confirmed. TIME magazine even reported the identification, but since a mundane explanation is not as exciting as a mystery object, it was back page news.
And there's another interesting footnote about the Discoverer program. In 1992, a Central Intelligence Agency program called Corona was declassified, and revealed that the Discoverer rockets were not about launching guys into space at all, but were actually carrying Corona spy satellites. The reason to use a polar orbit is that the craft eventually flies over every part of the Earth, and it's possible to photograph everything; unlike conventional semi-equatorial orbits that can only cover within a certain range of latitude. Back in those days there was no such thing as transmitting digital images back to Earth, so film cameras had to be used, and the film had to be dropped back to Earth to be developed and studied. The Corona KH-1 camera would de-orbit, pop a parachute, and then the parachute would be captured mid-air by a JC-130 recovery aircraft.
So although the entire Discoverer program was a front, the launches and results reported in newspapers at the time were indeed correct according to what was later declassified. The Corona camera aboard Discoverer VIII was indeed lost exactly as reported in the 1960 newspapers, and its casings and their eccentric orbit were also correctly reported.
So what was it that Gordon Cooper saw from Mercury 9, and that was corroborated by all those radar operators? According to Cooper himself (who died in 2004), what he saw was nothing at all. But make no mistake, Gordon Cooper reported seeing many UFOs during his flight career. He remains adamant about a fleet of UFOs that he says flew overhead while he was stationed in Germany, though nobody else there reports having known anything about it. But Cooper is also adamant that the Mercury 9 UFO — his supposed sighting of a greenish Black Knight in 1963 — is a complete fabrication by UFO authors that never happened. He offered all the transcripts, including his own originals, as proof that no such thing was reported during his flight. The story appears in virtually every UFO book about the Black Knight case, but there's no record of any such thing from NASA, from the radar station personnel, or from any contemporary source. It's purely an invention of modern writers.
So that leaves us with Endeavor's STS-88 flight, and their startling photographs of a spacecraft. There are a lot of things wrong with this part of the story. First of all, the shuttle always flew in a semi-equatorial orbit, as does the International Space Station. An object passing in a polar orbit would have gone by at tens of thousands of kilometers per hour, far too fast to be visible, and certainly far too fast for so many high-quality photos to be taken. During one of the astronauts' EVAs, a thermal blanket was lost and drifted away — silver on one side and black on the other. It was photographed extensively. It was crumpled and formed an odd shape. If you didn't know what to expect, the average person would have no clue what it was. But, unfortunately for the legend and fortunately for the astronauts, it simply wasn't an alien satellite.
I had a lot of fun learning more about this story. I learned a lot of history and some astronomical facts I didn't know. I'm glad I took the trouble, because if I had simply accepted the story that there's an alien satellite orbiting the Earth, I'd be wrong and I wouldn't have learned anything new. Worse, I'd have made a logical error, in being forced to accept a whole galaxy of wrong assumptions in order to shoehorn an improbable alien satellite into my reality. Neither legend nor mere debunking lead anywhere useful; it's only by tracking down the true facts that we earn the real rewards.
http://apocalisselaica.net/en/varie/miti-misteri-e-poteri-occulti/oops-la-nasa-ha-cancellato-le-foto-del-satellite-ufo-black-knight-errore-o-insabbiamento
wyglada Ci to na zlom?:D.
borkos007
Nie bede tego czytal bo zawsze ktos wymysli argumenty zeby obalic dana teorie. Ze wszystkim tak jest. Nie wierzysz w obce cwyilizacje to nie ma co gadac bo porozumienia nie bedzie;p
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wyglada Ci to na zlom?:D.
borkos007
Nie bede tego czytal bo zawsze ktos wymysli argumenty zeby obalic dana teorie. Ze wszystkim tak jest. Nie wierzysz w obce cwyilizacje to nie ma co gadac bo porozumienia nie bedzie;p
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hahahah no jak odrzucasz dowody podwazajace te smieszne teorie o kosmitach to nic dziwnego, ze dajesz z siebie glupca robic :D
te Twoje smieszne dowody sa napisane w taki sam wiarygodny sposob ja informacje np o "dark satellite" potwierdzajace istnieje obcych. Kwestia w co uwierzysz. No bo w co Ty wierzysz? W Boga wierzysz? W kosmitow z pewnoscia nie. Zadales sobie pytanie skad znalazles sie tutajna Ziemi? Powiedz mi jeszcze jak mozna nie wierzyc w innych w kosmosie skoro tylko w naszej galaktyce jest chyba ze 100 mld gwiazd z czego co druga ma uklad planetarny jak nasze Slonce. Do tego jakos niedawno odkryta ze kazdy inny uklad planetarny ma planety skaliste wielkoscia/rozmiarami podobne do Ziemi. I mowimy tutaj tylko o naszej galaktyce.
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Kwestia w co uwierzysz. No bo w co Ty wierzysz? W Boga wierzysz? W kosmitow z pewnoscia nie. Zadales sobie pytanie skad znalazles sie tutajna Ziemi?
a Ty w co wierzysz? ze nas kosmici stworzyli? a kosmitow kto stworzyl? a planety skad sie wziely?
Powiedz mi jeszcze jak mozna nie wierzyc w innych w kosmosie skoro tylko w naszej galaktyce jest chyba ze 100 mld gwiazd z czego co druga ma uklad planetarny jak nasze Slonce.
z czego na zadnej nie ma warunkow do zycia
te Twoje smieszne dowody sa napisane w taki sam wiarygodny sposob ja informacje np o "dark satellite" potwierdzajace istnieje obcych.
no niezbyt. to co Ci wkleilem po kolei pokazuje skad sie wziely te 'dowody' o black knight - to jest stek klamstw.
chociazby ta czesc:
When Duncan Lunan did his translation of the LDE data in 1973 and came up with the star map, he never had any thought of Black Knight or any other strange polar satellite. In fact his interpretation was that the LDEs were coming from the Earth's L5 Lagrangian point. L4 and L5 are two points along the moon's orbit, one 60° ahead of it and the other 60° behind, which are stable and where gravimetric effects from the Earth and Moon will hold an object in steady orbit. Moreover, Lunan later acknowledged that his method was not only unscientific but that he'd made outright errors, and retracted it. So despite today's pop-culture story, there never has been any reasonable interpretation of anything connecting Epsilon Boötis to either a mysterious satellite or to a date of 12,600 years ago.
Those 1954 newspaper reports of two satellites in orbit? It was merely tongue-in-cheek reporting of the wild claims of a UFO crank trying to sell a book. The Air Force officer cited was merely a guy who had seen a UFO once, but in no way corroborated the idea of unknown satellites orbiting Earth. Nothing to do with the alleged Black Knight.
The most interesting part of the story was in 1960, when the Discoverer satellites were being launched. Secretary of the Air Force Dudley Sharp told newspapers that this new mystery object was probably the second casing from Discoverer VIII, the twin of the known piece they were already tracking, as it was the right size and in about the right place. This was soon confirmed. TIME magazine even reported the identification, but since a mundane explanation is not as exciting as a mystery object, it was back page news.
no ale jak lubisz jak cie oklamuja, to spoko:)
a Ty w co wierzysz? ze nas kosmici stworzyli? a kosmitow kto stworzyl? a planety skad sie wziely?
Powiedz mi jeszcze jak mozna nie wierzyc w innych w kosmosie skoro tylko w naszej galaktyce jest chyba ze 100 mld gwiazd z czego co druga ma uklad planetarny jak nasze Slonce.
z czego na zadnej nie ma warunkow do zycia
te Twoje smieszne dowody sa napisane w taki sam wiarygodny sposob ja informacje np o "dark satellite" potwierdzajace istnieje obcych.
no niezbyt. to co Ci wkleilem po kolei pokazuje skad sie wziely te 'dowody' o black knight - to jest stek klamstw.
chociazby ta czesc:
When Duncan Lunan did his translation of the LDE data in 1973 and came up with the star map, he never had any thought of Black Knight or any other strange polar satellite. In fact his interpretation was that the LDEs were coming from the Earth's L5 Lagrangian point. L4 and L5 are two points along the moon's orbit, one 60° ahead of it and the other 60° behind, which are stable and where gravimetric effects from the Earth and Moon will hold an object in steady orbit. Moreover, Lunan later acknowledged that his method was not only unscientific but that he'd made outright errors, and retracted it. So despite today's pop-culture story, there never has been any reasonable interpretation of anything connecting Epsilon Boötis to either a mysterious satellite or to a date of 12,600 years ago.
Those 1954 newspaper reports of two satellites in orbit? It was merely tongue-in-cheek reporting of the wild claims of a UFO crank trying to sell a book. The Air Force officer cited was merely a guy who had seen a UFO once, but in no way corroborated the idea of unknown satellites orbiting Earth. Nothing to do with the alleged Black Knight.
The most interesting part of the story was in 1960, when the Discoverer satellites were being launched. Secretary of the Air Force Dudley Sharp told newspapers that this new mystery object was probably the second casing from Discoverer VIII, the twin of the known piece they were already tracking, as it was the right size and in about the right place. This was soon confirmed. TIME magazine even reported the identification, but since a mundane explanation is not as exciting as a mystery object, it was back page news.
no ale jak lubisz jak cie oklamuja, to spoko:)
a to chodzi o tego kamlota co to już tutaj grupa kosmofili wrzucała ?
a co do odkodowanego sygnału - to ściema ! mam odkodowane prawie wszystko w nc+ i do mnie nic arturianie nie pisali, sygnału od Mrocznego Rycerza też nie dostałem :(
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a co do odkodowanego sygnału - to ściema ! mam odkodowane prawie wszystko w nc+ i do mnie nic arturianie nie pisali, sygnału od Mrocznego Rycerza też nie dostałem :(
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ta, to o tym '13500-letnim szpiegowskim kosmicznym satelicie' :P
a Ty w co wierzysz? ze nas kosmici stworzyli? a kosmitow kto stworzyl? a planety skad sie wziely?
Wierze w kosmitow znacznie bardziej rozwinietych od nas. Religia ktora my znamy mowi o Bogu własnie w postaci obcych cywilizacji. Z reszta w podaniach religijnych tez sa wzmianki bezposrednio nawiazujace do nich. Czy tez np statki kosmiczne malowane na obrazach sredniowiecznych. Kto stworzyl innych i skad wzial sie wszechswiat to juz pytanie z innej beczki ...i pewnie nikt nie zna na nie odpowiedzi.
z czego na zadnej nie ma warunkow do zycia
Nie ma bo jeszcze nie znaleziono. Kepler analizuje dane z malego obszaru siegajace bodajze 1 tys lat swietlnych ..a co to wlasciwie jest? Samo to ze odkryta to co odkryta do tej pory daje wiele do myslenia. W raz z rozwojem technologicznym beda okdkyrwane nowe planety i znacznie glebiej analizowane. Tutaj chyba webb telescope daje nowe nadzieje.
The most interesting part of the story was in 1960, when the Discoverer satellites were being launched. Secretary of the Air Force Dudley Sharp told newspapers that this new mystery object was probably the second casing from Discoverer VIII, the twin of the known piece they were already tracking, as it was the right size and in about the right place. This was soon confirmed
No tak. Spodziewalem sie podobnej histori majacej na celu wyjasnic cos co powinno zostac zamiecione pod dywan:)
Wierze w kosmitow znacznie bardziej rozwinietych od nas. Religia ktora my znamy mowi o Bogu własnie w postaci obcych cywilizacji. Z reszta w podaniach religijnych tez sa wzmianki bezposrednio nawiazujace do nich. Czy tez np statki kosmiczne malowane na obrazach sredniowiecznych. Kto stworzyl innych i skad wzial sie wszechswiat to juz pytanie z innej beczki ...i pewnie nikt nie zna na nie odpowiedzi.
z czego na zadnej nie ma warunkow do zycia
Nie ma bo jeszcze nie znaleziono. Kepler analizuje dane z malego obszaru siegajace bodajze 1 tys lat swietlnych ..a co to wlasciwie jest? Samo to ze odkryta to co odkryta do tej pory daje wiele do myslenia. W raz z rozwojem technologicznym beda okdkyrwane nowe planety i znacznie glebiej analizowane. Tutaj chyba webb telescope daje nowe nadzieje.
The most interesting part of the story was in 1960, when the Discoverer satellites were being launched. Secretary of the Air Force Dudley Sharp told newspapers that this new mystery object was probably the second casing from Discoverer VIII, the twin of the known piece they were already tracking, as it was the right size and in about the right place. This was soon confirmed
No tak. Spodziewalem sie podobnej histori majacej na celu wyjasnic cos co powinno zostac zamiecione pod dywan:)
Religia ktora my znamy mowi o Bogu własnie w postaci obcych cywilizacji.
niby jaka religia i w jaki sposob mowi o Bogu w postaci obcych cywilizacji? :D :D
Kto stworzyl innych i skad wzial sie wszechswiat to juz pytanie z innej beczki ...i pewnie nikt nie zna na nie odpowiedzi.
no przeciez sam z tym wyskoczyles :>
Nie ma bo jeszcze nie znaleziono.
co nie znaczy, ze kiedys sie je znajdzie
Samo to ze odkryta to co odkryta do tej pory daje wiele do myslenia.
no daje do myslenia - ze na pewno zdecydowana wiekszosc planet nie nadaje sie do zamieszkania, a byc moze nawet wszystkie
No tak. Spodziewalem sie podobnej histori majacej na celu wyjasnic cos co powinno zostac zamiecione pod dywan:)
typowe - jesli dowody obalaja teorie, to tym gorzej dla dowodow:)
niby jaka religia i w jaki sposob mowi o Bogu w postaci obcych cywilizacji? :D :D
Kto stworzyl innych i skad wzial sie wszechswiat to juz pytanie z innej beczki ...i pewnie nikt nie zna na nie odpowiedzi.
no przeciez sam z tym wyskoczyles :>
Nie ma bo jeszcze nie znaleziono.
co nie znaczy, ze kiedys sie je znajdzie
Samo to ze odkryta to co odkryta do tej pory daje wiele do myslenia.
no daje do myslenia - ze na pewno zdecydowana wiekszosc planet nie nadaje sie do zamieszkania, a byc moze nawet wszystkie
No tak. Spodziewalem sie podobnej histori majacej na celu wyjasnic cos co powinno zostac zamiecione pod dywan:)
typowe - jesli dowody obalaja teorie, to tym gorzej dla dowodow:)
niby jaka religia i w jaki sposob mowi o Bogu w postaci obcych cywilizacji? :D :D
jak to nie - przecież nazywają statki od imion bogów z greckiej mitologii ? Da się ? da :)
jak to nie - przecież nazywają statki od imion bogów z greckiej mitologii ? Da się ? da :)
z czego na zadnej nie ma warunkow do zycia
raczej nie jest to prawda ;p
Planeta (nazwana Gliesie 581 g), którą odnaleźli astronomowie z Uniwersytetu Kalifornijskiego w Santa Cruz, jest trzy razy cięższa od Ziemi, jej grawitacja umożliwiałaby ludziom swobodne poruszanie się, prawdopodobnie istnieje tam atmosfera i panują dość ekstremalne, ale umożliwiające istnienie życia, warunki termiczne - średnio od minus 30 do minus 12 stopni Celsjusza. Naukowcy podejrzewają, że występuje tam również woda w stanie ciekłym.
Planeta krąży wokół gwiazdy o nazwie Gliese 581, która jest oddalona od Układu Słonecznego o 20 lat świetlnych. Wokół niej, po niemal kołowych orbitach, krążą też inne planety. Obieg wokół gwiazdy (czyli rok) na nowej planecie trwa 37 ziemskich dni. Planeta jest do niej zwrócona zawsze tą samą stroną - czyli na jednej jej połowie panuje nieustanny dzień, a na drugiej nieustanna noc. Badacze uznali, że - gdyby ludzie kiedykolwiek chcieli osiedlić się na nowej planecie - najkorzystniejszym miejscem do życia byłaby dla nas strefa na granicy nocy i dnia
Astronomowie twierdzą, że odkrycie planety podobnej do Ziemi tak niedaleko Układu Słonecznego pozwala sądzić, ze podobnych obiektów jest we wszechświecie zdecydowanie więcej.
Gwiazda Gliese 581 to czerwony karzeł. Znajduje się w gwiazdozbiorze Wagi.
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raczej nie jest to prawda ;p
Planeta (nazwana Gliesie 581 g), którą odnaleźli astronomowie z Uniwersytetu Kalifornijskiego w Santa Cruz, jest trzy razy cięższa od Ziemi, jej grawitacja umożliwiałaby ludziom swobodne poruszanie się, prawdopodobnie istnieje tam atmosfera i panują dość ekstremalne, ale umożliwiające istnienie życia, warunki termiczne - średnio od minus 30 do minus 12 stopni Celsjusza. Naukowcy podejrzewają, że występuje tam również woda w stanie ciekłym.
Planeta krąży wokół gwiazdy o nazwie Gliese 581, która jest oddalona od Układu Słonecznego o 20 lat świetlnych. Wokół niej, po niemal kołowych orbitach, krążą też inne planety. Obieg wokół gwiazdy (czyli rok) na nowej planecie trwa 37 ziemskich dni. Planeta jest do niej zwrócona zawsze tą samą stroną - czyli na jednej jej połowie panuje nieustanny dzień, a na drugiej nieustanna noc. Badacze uznali, że - gdyby ludzie kiedykolwiek chcieli osiedlić się na nowej planecie - najkorzystniejszym miejscem do życia byłaby dla nas strefa na granicy nocy i dnia
Astronomowie twierdzą, że odkrycie planety podobnej do Ziemi tak niedaleko Układu Słonecznego pozwala sądzić, ze podobnych obiektów jest we wszechświecie zdecydowanie więcej.
Gwiazda Gliese 581 to czerwony karzeł. Znajduje się w gwiazdozbiorze Wagi.
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niby jaka religia i w jaki sposob mowi o Bogu w postaci obcych cywilizacji? :D :D
Chociazby chrzescijanska..Są różne teorie odnosnie pochodzenia Jezusa;). Zakladam rownież, że taka natura ludzka, zeby w coś wierzyc i cala nasza religia nie ma nic wspolnego z prawda.
no przeciez sam z tym wyskoczyles :>
Zapytalem sie Ciebie w co Ty wierzysz a nie skad pochodzi wszechswiat. Ty odpowiedziales pytaniem na moje pytanie;P
no daje do myslenia - ze na pewno zdecydowana wiekszosc planet nie nadaje sie do zamieszkania, a byc moze nawet wszystkie
Wystarczy ze chociaz jedna planeta w co 10000 ukladzie planetarnym bedzie miala odpowiednie warunki to da nam to olbrzymia liczbe potencjalnych domow dla innych:). Ba nawet w co 100tys ukladziel;)
typowe - jesli dowody obalaja teorie, to tym gorzej dla dowodow:)
Nie wzieles pod uwage ze niektorym zalezy na tym zeby odwrocic wzrok od prawdy? Akurat szczatki jakiegos promu kosmicznego to chyba najbardziej przewidywalny kontrargument..no ale
Astronomowie twierdzą, że odkrycie planety podobnej do Ziemi tak niedaleko Układu Słonecznego pozwala sądzić, ze podobnych obiektów jest we wszechświecie zdecydowanie więcej.
Siekiera wyjasnil sprawe;)
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Chociazby chrzescijanska..Są różne teorie odnosnie pochodzenia Jezusa;). Zakladam rownież, że taka natura ludzka, zeby w coś wierzyc i cala nasza religia nie ma nic wspolnego z prawda.
no przeciez sam z tym wyskoczyles :>
Zapytalem sie Ciebie w co Ty wierzysz a nie skad pochodzi wszechswiat. Ty odpowiedziales pytaniem na moje pytanie;P
no daje do myslenia - ze na pewno zdecydowana wiekszosc planet nie nadaje sie do zamieszkania, a byc moze nawet wszystkie
Wystarczy ze chociaz jedna planeta w co 10000 ukladzie planetarnym bedzie miala odpowiednie warunki to da nam to olbrzymia liczbe potencjalnych domow dla innych:). Ba nawet w co 100tys ukladziel;)
typowe - jesli dowody obalaja teorie, to tym gorzej dla dowodow:)
Nie wzieles pod uwage ze niektorym zalezy na tym zeby odwrocic wzrok od prawdy? Akurat szczatki jakiegos promu kosmicznego to chyba najbardziej przewidywalny kontrargument..no ale
Astronomowie twierdzą, że odkrycie planety podobnej do Ziemi tak niedaleko Układu Słonecznego pozwala sądzić, ze podobnych obiektów jest we wszechświecie zdecydowanie więcej.
Siekiera wyjasnil sprawe;)
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