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Subject: Finalised U21 NT
To set the record straight once and for all.
WHAT HAPPENED
Anaconda asked me how much I want for my player, i showed him the valuations forum saying that he's worth about 1.6M and in the end we agreed on 1.5M. Then he told me to put the player on TL as earlier in the morning as possible, I said ok.... I did everything as he told me to.
But then, I told him I will play him in the next NT match against Italy bcos he is not bad in terms of his skills. When he heard that, he told me not to do it. Why? I do not know... But I told him I will still play him... After that he told me it's my decision, but next he told me he did not want my player anymore, as he found another player. I told him it is ok... But I still put him on the TL bcos he's not in my training plans.
WHY I DID NOT PUT HIM IN THE NT
Yes, we did had a deal that if he pays that amount of money, I would play him in the NT. I said ok, since it doesn't make any difference to the team whether he plays or not. Anything wrong with that?
But since our deal was off, I do not think I have to keep my side of the bargain anymore... Must I?
Furthermore, I do not take kindly to threats! After Anaconda bought him, he said to me that if I do not put him in the NT, he would make my life hell as an NT coach! I want to see how he can make my life hell!
As you can see people, before he bought my player he didn't want me to put him in NT fearing it might drive his price up... and when I told him I will, he told me he doesn't want him anymore. Then he goes and bid for him and after he got him at a much lower price than we agreed on, he wants me to play him in NT hoping that it will drive up his value when he sells it!
Do you guys think I am stupid??? Do you think I do not know what is in Anaconda's mind??
I may consider putting the player in the NT when he's found a new owner, but not when he's in Anaconda's team!
So I hope everyone get the facts right before jumping to conclusions.
WHAT HAPPENED
Anaconda asked me how much I want for my player, i showed him the valuations forum saying that he's worth about 1.6M and in the end we agreed on 1.5M. Then he told me to put the player on TL as earlier in the morning as possible, I said ok.... I did everything as he told me to.
But then, I told him I will play him in the next NT match against Italy bcos he is not bad in terms of his skills. When he heard that, he told me not to do it. Why? I do not know... But I told him I will still play him... After that he told me it's my decision, but next he told me he did not want my player anymore, as he found another player. I told him it is ok... But I still put him on the TL bcos he's not in my training plans.
WHY I DID NOT PUT HIM IN THE NT
Yes, we did had a deal that if he pays that amount of money, I would play him in the NT. I said ok, since it doesn't make any difference to the team whether he plays or not. Anything wrong with that?
But since our deal was off, I do not think I have to keep my side of the bargain anymore... Must I?
Furthermore, I do not take kindly to threats! After Anaconda bought him, he said to me that if I do not put him in the NT, he would make my life hell as an NT coach! I want to see how he can make my life hell!
As you can see people, before he bought my player he didn't want me to put him in NT fearing it might drive his price up... and when I told him I will, he told me he doesn't want him anymore. Then he goes and bid for him and after he got him at a much lower price than we agreed on, he wants me to play him in NT hoping that it will drive up his value when he sells it!
Do you guys think I am stupid??? Do you think I do not know what is in Anaconda's mind??
I may consider putting the player in the NT when he's found a new owner, but not when he's in Anaconda's team!
So I hope everyone get the facts right before jumping to conclusions.
Hearing your story, im glad i defended you...That was a serious difficult time typing=)
Okay. Now I do get the situation. You two better resolve this soon.
As you can see people, before he bought my player he didn't want me to put him in NT fearing it might drive his price up... and when I told him I will, he told me he doesn't want him anymore.
as you see, i sold all my old defs and bought young ones. I even payed 6.5M euros for a 18yo guy. I want to train good. I gave up to buy yours because I simply found a better one for me...
I may consider putting the player in the NT when he's found a new owner, but not when he's in Anaconda's team!
lol... I may consider sacking him, because he doesn't mean too much for me, he's one of my worst trainees... For me, won't be a big loss if I sack him, for you will be a loss... anyway, what did you say doesn't sound really nice, refusing to play a player because of his owner...
as you see, i sold all my old defs and bought young ones. I even payed 6.5M euros for a 18yo guy. I want to train good. I gave up to buy yours because I simply found a better one for me...
I may consider putting the player in the NT when he's found a new owner, but not when he's in Anaconda's team!
lol... I may consider sacking him, because he doesn't mean too much for me, he's one of my worst trainees... For me, won't be a big loss if I sack him, for you will be a loss... anyway, what did you say doesn't sound really nice, refusing to play a player because of his owner...
@jsq888
as you didn't pay NT prices for him. Since you pay non NT price for him, he' be a non NT player.
Tis dont sound good. If Klvn using his NT U21 coach rights to bump his player price up for his own club good, think hav to change to a foreign Coach to be fair to other SG club manager.
Thanks jsq888 for this comment!
Yes, you're right! If I use my NT coach rights to bump my players price up for my own good, I do not deserve to be NT coach!
Take a look at the stats of the player in question. Tell me he can't make the NT??
And then take a look at the no. of SG players I have sold since I became NT coach. Tell me which one I hv put in NT to bump up their prices! None!
So did I abuse my position as NT coach?
as you didn't pay NT prices for him. Since you pay non NT price for him, he' be a non NT player.
Tis dont sound good. If Klvn using his NT U21 coach rights to bump his player price up for his own club good, think hav to change to a foreign Coach to be fair to other SG club manager.
Thanks jsq888 for this comment!
Yes, you're right! If I use my NT coach rights to bump my players price up for my own good, I do not deserve to be NT coach!
Take a look at the stats of the player in question. Tell me he can't make the NT??
And then take a look at the no. of SG players I have sold since I became NT coach. Tell me which one I hv put in NT to bump up their prices! None!
So did I abuse my position as NT coach?
@rifte
I'm very very disappointed to hear this. If klvn has indeed done this, then I think he should not be involved in any of our NTs from now on.
Abuse of the NT role is not right, no matter whether other coaches do it or not.
I'm willing to hear his side of the story first, and we can decide later.
Thanks for your comment too! As I said in my earlier threads, if I abuse my position as NT coach, I do not deserve the position.
The problem is not that he's putting our players in the NT squad to get higher prices, it's that he's allegedly intentionally putting his players in the squad ahead of those who are more deserving.
Like I said, look at the no. of SG players that I have sold since I became NT and tell me which one I have put in NT to bump up their prices. None! Except for the latest one. But tell me he doesn't deserve to be in NT?
You say that I am allegedly intentionally putting my players in the squad ahead of those who are more deserving... Tell me which one? Darumami, Shane...? Do they not deserve to be in NT? I have listed out all the players in the NT squad for all to see! So if there are more deserving players, I would certainly put them in! Take Valgan's new kid, M.H Tai for example! I put him in the moment Valgan put him in the forum!
I have even set up a forum for all to put their new kids in so that we can keep track of them! And only Valgan has one so far that deserves a place in the NT alongside the existing ones. If there are others out there, it is not my fault that I do not know as they didn't put those kids in the forum.. And so far the scouts have not reported seeing better players than the existing ones.
I'm willing to hear his side of the story first, and we can decide later.
So you heard my side of the story.. You can decide...
I'm very very disappointed to hear this. If klvn has indeed done this, then I think he should not be involved in any of our NTs from now on.
Abuse of the NT role is not right, no matter whether other coaches do it or not.
I'm willing to hear his side of the story first, and we can decide later.
Thanks for your comment too! As I said in my earlier threads, if I abuse my position as NT coach, I do not deserve the position.
The problem is not that he's putting our players in the NT squad to get higher prices, it's that he's allegedly intentionally putting his players in the squad ahead of those who are more deserving.
Like I said, look at the no. of SG players that I have sold since I became NT and tell me which one I have put in NT to bump up their prices. None! Except for the latest one. But tell me he doesn't deserve to be in NT?
You say that I am allegedly intentionally putting my players in the squad ahead of those who are more deserving... Tell me which one? Darumami, Shane...? Do they not deserve to be in NT? I have listed out all the players in the NT squad for all to see! So if there are more deserving players, I would certainly put them in! Take Valgan's new kid, M.H Tai for example! I put him in the moment Valgan put him in the forum!
I have even set up a forum for all to put their new kids in so that we can keep track of them! And only Valgan has one so far that deserves a place in the NT alongside the existing ones. If there are others out there, it is not my fault that I do not know as they didn't put those kids in the forum.. And so far the scouts have not reported seeing better players than the existing ones.
I'm willing to hear his side of the story first, and we can decide later.
So you heard my side of the story.. You can decide...
I support you...If nto i wouldnt have start a war in the international forum...Go there klvn=)
Yeah klvn, you did well..anyway I hope that in the future when the player will be ready to play in the U21 NT you`ll let him play even if is owner is Anaconda!
Thank you very much!
Seriously, I'm glad this thing happened as it did. Now, I think u guys know me better!
1) I am not one who is stupid and noob just because I started playing sokker later than some Euro kid who thinks he can take advantage of me.
2) I can't and won't be intimidated by some Euro kids who think they can threaten me.
3) I do and run things fair and ethically just like I run my businesses... Yes, even in a game like sokker! :)
Seriously, I'm glad this thing happened as it did. Now, I think u guys know me better!
1) I am not one who is stupid and noob just because I started playing sokker later than some Euro kid who thinks he can take advantage of me.
2) I can't and won't be intimidated by some Euro kids who think they can threaten me.
3) I do and run things fair and ethically just like I run my businesses... Yes, even in a game like sokker! :)
You better treat me to a drink after how hard i worked...
Well, i dont wish to see our reputation go down and cant take it when some ppl think they can bully us.
Well, i dont wish to see our reputation go down and cant take it when some ppl think they can bully us.
I support you...If nto i wouldnt have start a war in the international forum...Go there klvn=)
I will go there in due time.... Thanks for standing by me over there. U r the commando, chiong first! :)
I will go there in due time.... Thanks for standing by me over there. U r the commando, chiong first! :)
Lol...Exams over liao got nothing to do...=)