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jsq888 [del] to
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Interesting, isn't it? Only the you and the other one, the two most inactive guys here in the forum, suddenly become so active in this topic and condemn me! The two most ignorant guys around here who doesn't know what is happening in the SG community suddenly take an interest around here! Wow!
KNN r u going find fault with me!!??? Now u r talking abt active or inactive in the forum. Is tis yr father F***ing forum!!!???
What me & Rifte not happy abt is this sentence as you didn't pay NT prices for him. Since you pay non NT price for him, he' be a non NT player THIS IS JUST NOT RIGHT ISN'T IT!! And u r say we dun understand wat happen, not active in forum,jumping to conclusions etc etc etc..
U tell me is the above underline u wrote RIGHT or WRONG u just need to reply YES or NO tats it. cos u already explain the story in tat forum.
I hav say in tat forum I"M NOT AGAINST U (klvn). Klvn u better point yr (Machine-Gun) on Anaconda not yr SG fellow!!
The fact is that you DID mix NT and personal roles, and used the NT position to influence the potential price of your own player.
WHERE IS THE FACT???
U hav INDEED write it in the reply to anaconda when he post the player of yrs TL link i hav seen & read abt it morning but too bad u edited it when Rifte reply u Congratulations, you just showed that you did indeed mix the NT and your own roles. & now u ask him where is the fact........
To Anaconda
U better post in all the msg U & Klvn abt the TL better not even a single msg left out. IN THIS FORUM !! I'm going to give u HELL if u not do so. Which u make me & Klvn hav so much misunderstanding!
KNN r u going find fault with me!!??? Now u r talking abt active or inactive in the forum. Is tis yr father F***ing forum!!!???
What me & Rifte not happy abt is this sentence as you didn't pay NT prices for him. Since you pay non NT price for him, he' be a non NT player THIS IS JUST NOT RIGHT ISN'T IT!! And u r say we dun understand wat happen, not active in forum,jumping to conclusions etc etc etc..
U tell me is the above underline u wrote RIGHT or WRONG u just need to reply YES or NO tats it. cos u already explain the story in tat forum.
I hav say in tat forum I"M NOT AGAINST U (klvn). Klvn u better point yr (Machine-Gun) on Anaconda not yr SG fellow!!
The fact is that you DID mix NT and personal roles, and used the NT position to influence the potential price of your own player.
WHERE IS THE FACT???
U hav INDEED write it in the reply to anaconda when he post the player of yrs TL link i hav seen & read abt it morning but too bad u edited it when Rifte reply u Congratulations, you just showed that you did indeed mix the NT and your own roles. & now u ask him where is the fact........
To Anaconda
U better post in all the msg U & Klvn abt the TL better not even a single msg left out. IN THIS FORUM !! I'm going to give u HELL if u not do so. Which u make me & Klvn hav so much misunderstanding!
what a bad situation...
anaconda e klvn are 2 guys too proud to admit that both made some mistakes, each other, and klvn with the community.
as jsq said, if those sentences are true, it was a very bad action... because if it's true that a coach is free to call who wants in NT, it's also true that the main aim is the weal of the NT.
in italy, for giving all you an example, the previous CT called one of his player in NT only for selling him better. all the community was disappointed of this and he, like an honest man, didn't run for the latest elections ("we can read this like a dimission").
mixing the role of CT and personal matters is never good; that's why if klvn recognize to have made something wrong i expect he will apologize with everybody and won't run for the elections next season, like our previous coach did.
i hope this situation will solved soon because i think you were and are a good community and also because a small community with some problems among the users will hardly grow strong.
anaconda e klvn are 2 guys too proud to admit that both made some mistakes, each other, and klvn with the community.
as jsq said, if those sentences are true, it was a very bad action... because if it's true that a coach is free to call who wants in NT, it's also true that the main aim is the weal of the NT.
in italy, for giving all you an example, the previous CT called one of his player in NT only for selling him better. all the community was disappointed of this and he, like an honest man, didn't run for the latest elections ("we can read this like a dimission").
mixing the role of CT and personal matters is never good; that's why if klvn recognize to have made something wrong i expect he will apologize with everybody and won't run for the elections next season, like our previous coach did.
i hope this situation will solved soon because i think you were and are a good community and also because a small community with some problems among the users will hardly grow strong.
jsq888 [del] to
NIC
Yes!! i agree BOTH make some mistakes. Just admit it and say SORRY that it BE A MAN!!!!
I am not gonna bother who's gonna condemn me anymore! I will say this one LAST time and I'm not gonna say anymore!!! Period. You guys come to watever conclusion u like!
1) Felix Ee came out on thursday from YS.
2) As he's good, I put him in NT.
3) But bcos he's a DEF and I'm training MIDs, I have to put him up for sale! Dun expect me to keep him, right?! Most ppl would sell him, except maybe noobs!
(So far did I do anything wrong here?? I dun think so...)
So this is mixing my role as NT coach and my own team??? If that is so, then I dun want to be an NT coach anymore! Bcos I can't possibly sell any of my SG youths without ppl accusing me!!!
4) Then Anaconda approached me saying he wants to buy my player, and told me to to do this & to do that etc. (Read the threads, I dun want to repeat myself)
5) I agreed to ALL his requests even though I know I am at a disadvantage!
6) EXCEPT one request. That is the one telling me not to play him in the NT!
Now, I can easily accept his request by not playing Felix in the NT bcos we agreed to a deal, can't I? But if I did that, wouldn't I be guilty of MIXING NT & MY INTEREST?????! As some ppl are accusing me of doing it now?! I can't win, can I? Play Felix, ppl can accuse me. Dun play Felix, ppl also can accuse me! WTF is this???? Anyway, let's continue...
7) However, I decide to put the NT's interest ahead of my own interest by still playing Felix!!!!!
(Yes, it is a coincidence that Felix happens to be my player! I would do the same AGAIN if I have another youth who deserves a place in the NT! If my youth doesn't deserve a place in NT, then I won't play him! But if he does deserve a place, I WILL play him even if I'm gonna sell him afterwards! I dun feel there is anything wrong with this! If there is, then how am I gonna play on? I can't sell the player bcos he's going to NT? Or I can't play the player in NT bcos I'm gonna sell him? Then tell me WTF to do?!)
8) When Anaconda realised I am not accepting this particular request of his, he said he found another player and dun want to buy my player anymore!!
9) After accepting to so many of his requests even though I am at a disadvantage, he backed out of the deal! (I dun know about you guys, I felt being taken for a ride by a jerk!)
10) But I didn't make a big issue of it! (On hindsight, maybe I should've kept all the messages and flame him in the forums instead! But that's not me, I dun have time to play childish & immature games with kids!)
11) So came saturday and Felix was sold. I have already decided to take him out of NT then as the next game is a friendly and I won't be playing him.
12) Then out of the blue, I received a msg from Anaconda asking me why I took him out of NT! I didn't even know he was the one who bought Felix until he sent me a msg!
13) So I told him the reason why I took him out... (I dun think I need to answer or tell the real reason to anyone why I take someone out or put them in or who i play, right?! And I am beginning to be pissed off with him still telling me what i should do and should not do!!! So fed up with him, I sent him the messages which he had pasted all over the forum! (I dun deny it happened, unlike Anaconda, he's still keeping quiet about the threats that he sent MY WAY, and the way he was trying to manipulate me by telling me what to do & not to do etc. and then backed out of our deal!)
14) The last straw was when he threatened me! (I have already written in the threads what he said to me, go read it!)
15) So I decided there and then that I want to see how he can make life hell for me! I can't find out how if I put Felix back into the team, can I?? So I told him to go ahead! I dun take kindly to threats.
16) So it came to this...
17) THE END
Well folks, thank you for following this so far. You are free to come to whatever views and conclusions you like about me. Frankly, I dun give a damn as I didn't do anything wrong and those who want to condemn me are NOBODY to me!! I dun give a F*** about you and I dun think I need to proof anything to you!
Maybe, the only stupid thing I did was I wasn't careful with words and chose the wrong choice of words to use with a jerk (thx jsq888 for pointing that out)... Oh yes, and I didn't have the habit of saving messages as sokker does not have a trash box!
To those who believe me and still trust me, I thank you and I promise you that I will still continue to contribute to the SG community regardless of how ppl see me.
Like I said, I dun give a F*** about those ppl. If you're good to me, I'll be twice as good to you back. But if you f*** around with me, then be prepared I'll f*** you back twice as hard!
I will end here. You guys can enjoy urself by putting watever you like about me here. (I'm the flavor of the month, ain't I?) When I have the time, I'll drop by and read with amusement what you've written. :P
PS. To jsq888, thank you for putting this up! Finally the other thread can go back to normal operations! :)
PPS. I dun think i need to apologise to Anaconda. He tried to take advantage of me. I refused to let him. He couldn't take advantage. He's pissed and want to go to war with me... So be it!
PPPS. To SG community, if bcos of me you have felt tension & misunderstanding here over the past few days, then I am truly sorry. But I didn't start it! I dun think I've done anything wrong. Like I said, I would do the same thing again if I have another youth that is good enough for the NT but doesn't fall within my training plans and I have to sell him! I will still put him up for sale and I will still put him into the NT at the same time!
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1) Felix Ee came out on thursday from YS.
2) As he's good, I put him in NT.
3) But bcos he's a DEF and I'm training MIDs, I have to put him up for sale! Dun expect me to keep him, right?! Most ppl would sell him, except maybe noobs!
(So far did I do anything wrong here?? I dun think so...)
So this is mixing my role as NT coach and my own team??? If that is so, then I dun want to be an NT coach anymore! Bcos I can't possibly sell any of my SG youths without ppl accusing me!!!
4) Then Anaconda approached me saying he wants to buy my player, and told me to to do this & to do that etc. (Read the threads, I dun want to repeat myself)
5) I agreed to ALL his requests even though I know I am at a disadvantage!
6) EXCEPT one request. That is the one telling me not to play him in the NT!
Now, I can easily accept his request by not playing Felix in the NT bcos we agreed to a deal, can't I? But if I did that, wouldn't I be guilty of MIXING NT & MY INTEREST?????! As some ppl are accusing me of doing it now?! I can't win, can I? Play Felix, ppl can accuse me. Dun play Felix, ppl also can accuse me! WTF is this???? Anyway, let's continue...
7) However, I decide to put the NT's interest ahead of my own interest by still playing Felix!!!!!
(Yes, it is a coincidence that Felix happens to be my player! I would do the same AGAIN if I have another youth who deserves a place in the NT! If my youth doesn't deserve a place in NT, then I won't play him! But if he does deserve a place, I WILL play him even if I'm gonna sell him afterwards! I dun feel there is anything wrong with this! If there is, then how am I gonna play on? I can't sell the player bcos he's going to NT? Or I can't play the player in NT bcos I'm gonna sell him? Then tell me WTF to do?!)
8) When Anaconda realised I am not accepting this particular request of his, he said he found another player and dun want to buy my player anymore!!
9) After accepting to so many of his requests even though I am at a disadvantage, he backed out of the deal! (I dun know about you guys, I felt being taken for a ride by a jerk!)
10) But I didn't make a big issue of it! (On hindsight, maybe I should've kept all the messages and flame him in the forums instead! But that's not me, I dun have time to play childish & immature games with kids!)
11) So came saturday and Felix was sold. I have already decided to take him out of NT then as the next game is a friendly and I won't be playing him.
12) Then out of the blue, I received a msg from Anaconda asking me why I took him out of NT! I didn't even know he was the one who bought Felix until he sent me a msg!
13) So I told him the reason why I took him out... (I dun think I need to answer or tell the real reason to anyone why I take someone out or put them in or who i play, right?! And I am beginning to be pissed off with him still telling me what i should do and should not do!!! So fed up with him, I sent him the messages which he had pasted all over the forum! (I dun deny it happened, unlike Anaconda, he's still keeping quiet about the threats that he sent MY WAY, and the way he was trying to manipulate me by telling me what to do & not to do etc. and then backed out of our deal!)
14) The last straw was when he threatened me! (I have already written in the threads what he said to me, go read it!)
15) So I decided there and then that I want to see how he can make life hell for me! I can't find out how if I put Felix back into the team, can I?? So I told him to go ahead! I dun take kindly to threats.
16) So it came to this...
17) THE END
Well folks, thank you for following this so far. You are free to come to whatever views and conclusions you like about me. Frankly, I dun give a damn as I didn't do anything wrong and those who want to condemn me are NOBODY to me!! I dun give a F*** about you and I dun think I need to proof anything to you!
Maybe, the only stupid thing I did was I wasn't careful with words and chose the wrong choice of words to use with a jerk (thx jsq888 for pointing that out)... Oh yes, and I didn't have the habit of saving messages as sokker does not have a trash box!
To those who believe me and still trust me, I thank you and I promise you that I will still continue to contribute to the SG community regardless of how ppl see me.
Like I said, I dun give a F*** about those ppl. If you're good to me, I'll be twice as good to you back. But if you f*** around with me, then be prepared I'll f*** you back twice as hard!
I will end here. You guys can enjoy urself by putting watever you like about me here. (I'm the flavor of the month, ain't I?) When I have the time, I'll drop by and read with amusement what you've written. :P
PS. To jsq888, thank you for putting this up! Finally the other thread can go back to normal operations! :)
PPS. I dun think i need to apologise to Anaconda. He tried to take advantage of me. I refused to let him. He couldn't take advantage. He's pissed and want to go to war with me... So be it!
PPPS. To SG community, if bcos of me you have felt tension & misunderstanding here over the past few days, then I am truly sorry. But I didn't start it! I dun think I've done anything wrong. Like I said, I would do the same thing again if I have another youth that is good enough for the NT but doesn't fall within my training plans and I have to sell him! I will still put him up for sale and I will still put him into the NT at the same time!
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the real problem, in my opinion, is not that you sold that player. what happened between anaconda and you are your business. ("i wanted to sell", "you didn't want o buy anymore" and blablabla...)
i think it's easy to understand that the problem is the words you used: a CT MUSTN'T say that a player won't play if XXX will be his owner, or similar sentences, and you ammitted it.
your words:
I sent him the messages which he had pasted all over the forum! (I dun deny it happened,
so you are admitting that a player can not play in NT only because you have something against his owner. that's not good for a user who wants to be a CT for 3 seasons
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i think it's easy to understand that the problem is the words you used: a CT MUSTN'T say that a player won't play if XXX will be his owner, or similar sentences, and you ammitted it.
your words:
I sent him the messages which he had pasted all over the forum! (I dun deny it happened,
so you are admitting that a player can not play in NT only because you have something against his owner. that's not good for a user who wants to be a CT for 3 seasons
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so you are admitting that a player can not play in NT only because you have something against his owner. that's not good for a user who wants to be a CT for 3 seasons
Yes and no! If Felix is some super talented kid who can make the NT unbeatable, then of course even though Anaconda is a jerk, I will still play him! Who wouldn't want to win NT matches? But since he won't make much difference to the NT, I decided I can do without him!
I didn't expect this to happen when I took over the NT that there are jerks around! I have my pride and i stick to my principles! If anyone is not happy with my principle and the way I work, then dun vote for me next season.
If every jerk like Anaconda were to push me around, take me for a ride, try to manipulate me or my NT to their advantage and tell me what to do and what not to do with my NT and I STILL have to submit to them...? Like this then is a good NT coach? Well, if that's the case, I dun want to be a good NT coach! I want to be a nasty one!
If you want your player to play in the NT, then you better be nice with me and dun send threats my way or try to f*** around with me! If you want to f*** around with me, then make sure your player is SUPER TALENTED! Otherwise, he would have no chance in my NT! Remember, it is not as if I dun have other players to choose from for my NT! THIS IS THE WAY I RUN MY NT!!!
Do you really think Anaconda or most foreigners for that matter want to train Felix or any SG players long term for the glory of SG NT? Do you think he really cares whether Felix is in the NT or not? C'mon, you guys are not that naive, are you??? All he wants is for me to put Felix in the NT so that he can fetch a better price for him when he sells him! Isn't he trying to manipulate me and my NT for his benefits?? Anyone who thinks he or she can make manipulate me and make use of my NT for his benefits can go suck an egg!
Like I said I am sick and tired of this. So those who are not happy with me, why dun you guys settle this once and for all! Write down here what you guys want me to do! You want me to quit NT coach? It's fine with me! I dun need to take these shit from you all... Especially since some of you are not even Singaporeans! No need to go on & on & on like a soap opera, never ending story!
If you guys dun appreciate what I have done for the NT, it's ok with me. I dun need a pat on the back from u all... But dun take me for granted!
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Yes and no! If Felix is some super talented kid who can make the NT unbeatable, then of course even though Anaconda is a jerk, I will still play him! Who wouldn't want to win NT matches? But since he won't make much difference to the NT, I decided I can do without him!
I didn't expect this to happen when I took over the NT that there are jerks around! I have my pride and i stick to my principles! If anyone is not happy with my principle and the way I work, then dun vote for me next season.
If every jerk like Anaconda were to push me around, take me for a ride, try to manipulate me or my NT to their advantage and tell me what to do and what not to do with my NT and I STILL have to submit to them...? Like this then is a good NT coach? Well, if that's the case, I dun want to be a good NT coach! I want to be a nasty one!
If you want your player to play in the NT, then you better be nice with me and dun send threats my way or try to f*** around with me! If you want to f*** around with me, then make sure your player is SUPER TALENTED! Otherwise, he would have no chance in my NT! Remember, it is not as if I dun have other players to choose from for my NT! THIS IS THE WAY I RUN MY NT!!!
Do you really think Anaconda or most foreigners for that matter want to train Felix or any SG players long term for the glory of SG NT? Do you think he really cares whether Felix is in the NT or not? C'mon, you guys are not that naive, are you??? All he wants is for me to put Felix in the NT so that he can fetch a better price for him when he sells him! Isn't he trying to manipulate me and my NT for his benefits?? Anyone who thinks he or she can make manipulate me and make use of my NT for his benefits can go suck an egg!
Like I said I am sick and tired of this. So those who are not happy with me, why dun you guys settle this once and for all! Write down here what you guys want me to do! You want me to quit NT coach? It's fine with me! I dun need to take these shit from you all... Especially since some of you are not even Singaporeans! No need to go on & on & on like a soap opera, never ending story!
If you guys dun appreciate what I have done for the NT, it's ok with me. I dun need a pat on the back from u all... But dun take me for granted!
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ok. so you are now saying that for you it's more important your pride than the NT and it's better to be a nasty coach than a good one-
the important is that your message "my pride before the weal of the NT" is finally clear to all :)
ps: screaming bad word doesn't mean you are right, so calm down ;)
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the important is that your message "my pride before the weal of the NT" is finally clear to all :)
ps: screaming bad word doesn't mean you are right, so calm down ;)
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Yes, my pride and the pride of my country NT! I dun let some foreigners come in here and f**k around! Not with me, not when I'm NT coach! So if you want your players to play in the NT, you better not sent threats my way or f*** around with me!
You guys think you can come here and f*** around with the NT coach, wait till next season! That is if i'm no longer the NT coach! Until then, I am still the NT coach and I choose who I want to be in the team and I dun have to answer to any foreigners!
I only have to answer to ppl who voted for me! And I answer to them by placing players whom I intend to pick for the NT in the forums for all to see!
PS. "F*** around" is a term (meaning fool, mess around, play the fool with me), not a bad word! "F***" is a bad word! :)
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You guys think you can come here and f*** around with the NT coach, wait till next season! That is if i'm no longer the NT coach! Until then, I am still the NT coach and I choose who I want to be in the team and I dun have to answer to any foreigners!
I only have to answer to ppl who voted for me! And I answer to them by placing players whom I intend to pick for the NT in the forums for all to see!
PS. "F*** around" is a term (meaning fool, mess around, play the fool with me), not a bad word! "F***" is a bad word! :)
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no. this is only your pride, because as you can see there are other users of singapore who want explanations. so speak for yourself.
So if you want your players to play in the NT, you better not sent threats my way or f*** around with me!
this is the proof that for you the NT is only your business and not of all the community.
I am still the NT coach and I choose who I want to be in the team and I dun have to answer to any foreigners!
i don't want any explanations about you want in the team. i follows this community and if i see there is something wrong for his weal it's honest for me writing something to try to fix it.
...oh, i forget that for you it's more important YOUR pride...
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So if you want your players to play in the NT, you better not sent threats my way or f*** around with me!
this is the proof that for you the NT is only your business and not of all the community.
I am still the NT coach and I choose who I want to be in the team and I dun have to answer to any foreigners!
i don't want any explanations about you want in the team. i follows this community and if i see there is something wrong for his weal it's honest for me writing something to try to fix it.
...oh, i forget that for you it's more important YOUR pride...
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Whatever you say NIC, you're not even from this country! Go back to where you're from! You didn't vote for me!! So what gives you the right to judge me here!
You're just a busybody, eh? Why, Italian forums too boring for you that you have to come here? What have you contributed to our community??
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You're just a busybody, eh? Why, Italian forums too boring for you that you have to come here? What have you contributed to our community??
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Well, my pride is only directed to jerks from foreign lands.
if you argue with a user from singapore is there any difference?
pride, directed to anybody, is only childish.
pride, directed to anybody, is only childish.
This is just a game to me... i dun have to put a game over my pride and principles! I've done my best part for the NT ever since I took on this job. And I will continue to do what I've done to the best of my ability.
Maybe next season you should apply for the NT job. Show me what you can do to be a good NT coach! Then I'll be judging you to see how you fair! :)
Those who are not happy with how I run the NT so far, dun need to talk so much! Next season, apply for the post and I'll see how you run our SG NT!
If you dun do your job well, I will condemn you!
Maybe next season you should apply for the NT job. Show me what you can do to be a good NT coach! Then I'll be judging you to see how you fair! :)
Those who are not happy with how I run the NT so far, dun need to talk so much! Next season, apply for the post and I'll see how you run our SG NT!
If you dun do your job well, I will condemn you!
why do you want to see a second aim in me? don't try to attack me only because you are in a bad position because this won't solve the bad situation that you have created.
I am not attacking you! I didn't start this nonsense. Only those who attacks me, I defend myself! It is my principle!
I am just replying to what you have written. If you think I put my pride and principle over a game of sokker is wrong, then next season you apply to be our NT coach! If you think you can do a good job as an NT coach, I will definitely vote for you next season!
No need to talk so much! Want to talk, go back to Italy and talk! Next season, apply for NT post and show me what a good NT coach you can be! Maybe i can learn a thing or two!
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I am just replying to what you have written. If you think I put my pride and principle over a game of sokker is wrong, then next season you apply to be our NT coach! If you think you can do a good job as an NT coach, I will definitely vote for you next season!
No need to talk so much! Want to talk, go back to Italy and talk! Next season, apply for NT post and show me what a good NT coach you can be! Maybe i can learn a thing or two!
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