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Subject: U21 National Team

2011-10-01 09:42:08
agree, actually the most important to keep the team in the first 32. but as i know nin was, who arranged the friendlies for this season.

it seems that we will be in the third pot.
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2011-10-01 09:44:22
yes, i know that nin made this friendlies..the message wasn`t directed to groene
2011-10-01 11:27:33
I just follow the arranged friendlies.... Offcourse it are strong opponents and it seems there are a couple of strong teams left in our last three matches :(
2011-10-01 11:31:13
unfortunately, you have only 2 games left to change something
the draw will be in week 0...
2011-10-01 13:56:35
I do not know if there's something else to say, the tactic was wrong as well as in other games, too much space between lines, better analysis and a more compact tactics could get a good result, but it is not acceptable to be so dominated in all chapters. I do not think it was big difference between players, as evidenced by statistics and therefore the result. There have been matches where I could get the important points and avoid the third pot.
2011-10-01 14:14:47
You have to tell me very precise for once what you mean by less space between the lines. If we are in defense the defense line and the midfield line is very close to each other, as close as it can be. If we are in attack, the defence line goes back but we wouldn't have any profit if the defense line is higher : the pace and DEF of our defenders is too low to get technical strikers back (for example the england strikers yesterday). If we put them higher they have to have some attacking abilities like high PM and the don't have it. I play them at their possibilities. I played with 5 defenders because England plays most of the time with 3 deep attacking players. Our midfield stays imo quite low altough you get another idea another idea if you see the gap with the defence when we attack. Our ATT line is always on the line of the defense of the other team. Like it should be imo. Our strikers aren't strong enough to dribble the defenders in front so imo that's the best option. The chance of Robinson was the perfect example of the play I wanted to play.
In my opinion that is a compact tactic adapted to the quality of the Irish team. The 12th best 20 year old hasn't got 40 skillpoints on the midskills (so 5 x solid)so we really don't have a lot of opportunities to change. Offcourse I would like to play with a strong winger and some good passes from there, but reality shows we have only mids with double excellent on the midskills PM and Passing and that's not good enough to produce some level in the ATT passes.

You always keep repeating the same thing, but don't give the alternative we should play. It won't be enough to play "more compact" like you mean it. Our defenders will look stupid with wrong and incomplete tackles from behind, we will have more cards and our ATT will be too low to achieve something.

Feel free to send me a movie of an example of the tactic you mean. I will use him in the next match then.
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2011-10-01 14:35:25
I do not think it was big difference between players

I really don't get it too how you can say that. Have you looked at their players? We have two players with a value of more than 500.000 Euro and play with several players with a value around 300.000 Euro. All the players of England have a value higher than 500.000 Euro, several have 600-700.000. There isn't the possibility to change players in low form too because there are no replacements. Not only their squad was almost double the value as ours also in the play and in the goals you see the difference. The first and the second goal are typical examples of class difference aren't they? With the second goal I believe we tackle 5-6 times and don't manage to get the ball. What would it have been if the defenders were always higher?

I'm a little tired of cheap accusations and hollow sentences from your side. Explain me a good alternative considering our defenders had an average DEFlevel of outstanding-incredible with relatively low ATT possibilities, we have a striker with good tech and our ATT midfielders haven't got a passing-PM sum higher than 20.

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2011-10-01 14:57:20
I do not blame you personally, but the work you do, do not think i should tell you that tactics have to play as i have explained in previous posts and you said and your fellow menasure how to arrange the players in tactics for the opponent does not leave spaces. But there would have to have a staff back, for the help, but it seems that you have not had it. And I think it's enough for 10 passing and 10 pm to play extreme.

and it's only my opinion, should not be so outraged, as far as I know generally speaking not your person :P

By the way, look at this game and make your idea, to see what difference is between teams, and see statistics and results:

match


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2011-10-01 15:05:59
I do not blame you personally, but the work you do

Blame the work I do, but don't blame me... You have to explain that...

I don't understand what the match means you post. I think you mean the difference in rating and the win? Notice the difference between the keepers is already 4 points in rating, so it doesn't say that much. Rating doesn't mean that much at all anyway... Just explain me then why 16490293 match didn't finish in the same way for you.
It's not fair to compare clubs and national teams too. If you want to play a clubtactic you can buy a certain type of player which isn't possible with NT's.

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2011-10-01 15:34:29
and if you have time and you can look at the difference between the players, especially forwards and goalkeepers, not only rating, if you look closely, in 28 minutes I had goalkeeper worth 250 k euro). But another idea was that you did not understand it, it was placing players in tact, forming triangles, and your opponent has fewer spaces, from what I saw before you use a linear tactics.

on the match 16490293, I think it's a very good result considering the difference between players, and i don't won because the attacker is weak, has 12 pace, 12 technique, 11 att.

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2011-10-01 15:44:58
send me the movie of the tactic with Hypercam, I will use it with this Irish players and you can see the result itself!
2011-10-01 16:01:04
not have to play my tactics, you have to do a good tactic, I just gave you some ideas, and you have to take into account or not. I am aware that my tactics have changed depending on the players. I hope to get good results in these matches, but will be hard especially with Magyarország.

Good luck
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2011-10-07 09:11:06
We play tonight against Denmark. Colombia failed to answer to the planned match... Difficult match, but maybe also the only possibility to raise on the ranking. We will play a mixed squad U20 with 3 players U21. Hopefully we will see a good match of the Irish team and it will bring us victory!
2011-10-07 16:50:46
is good with Danemark, is rather unpredictable, strong, but you can get a positive result.

good luck
2011-10-07 16:53:36
hmm should be an interesting game for sure.
best of luck.
2011-10-07 18:48:18
Thanks. Coutts-Smith is out of the team(on the bench). Sathiamoorthy will play ;)