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2-3 sezone. Moraju prvo da testiraju neko vreme ubrzane sezone da vide kakve će efekte da ima.
neuro to
majti_orion
Као што су неки приметили, каснио је тренинг данас.
Разлог је што су укинули ниже лиге где је пре било ботова само. Тако да од данас имамо само три ранга такмичења :)
Разлог је што су укинули ниже лиге где је пре било ботова само. Тако да од данас имамо само три ранга такмичења :)
neuro to
majti_orion
Ма слажем се, ја сам за ову промену.
Чак и након овог укидања пете и четврте лиге, ми и даље имамо испод 50% попуњености лига.
75/170
Чак и након овог укидања пете и четврте лиге, ми и даље имамо испод 50% попуњености лига.
75/170
majti_orion to
neuro
Sad kad svi bivši korisnici pročitaju na fejzbuku kakve promene stižu, oma će da se vrate, registruju ponovo klubove sa istim imenom koje su imali i krenu iz početka.
Oh, wait!
2020-05-13 10:05:02
BlueZero to bozza [del]
New teams:
1 - IV Liga.29 OFK Brestač - mail
Statistics Srbija
Oh, wait!
2020-05-13 10:05:02
BlueZero to bozza [del]
New teams:
1 - IV Liga.29 OFK Brestač - mail
Statistics Srbija
neuro to
majti_orion
шта ћемо ако/кад "знатевећко" реши да се врати, а ми нисмо спремили клуб :/
ко ће свој дати и од бруке нас спасити? ја немам довољно пара на рачуну, па да нас не брукам... имам додуше музеј са трофејима (миљане, исплати)
ко ће свој дати и од бруке нас спасити? ја немам довољно пара на рачуну, па да нас не брукам... имам додуше музеј са трофејима (миљане, исплати)
Таћа је ценим пун ко брод. ето коначно и у другу ушао. ред је да му се помогне кад ја као брат нисам био кадар. :D
Нек се потруди да уђе у прву. Знаш да Бард кад дође, концентрација га држи око 1,5 сезона, па ако крене из друге потрошиће сву магију док се пласира назад у прву.
Тако да је план јасан, он уведе тим у прву, неко одради квалификације за светско и онда Бард ступа на сцену и осваја четвороструку круну (лига, куп, шамшпионски куп и светско)
Тако да је план јасан, он уведе тим у прву, неко одради квалификације за светско и онда Бард ступа на сцену и осваја четвороструку круну (лига, куп, шамшпионски куп и светско)
majti_orion to
neuro
Današnja objava, ukratko:
Skratili su broj liga, tako da većina zemalja ima tri nivoa, i prebacili akvitne korisnike u više lige. Imaju problem sa brojem liga najnižeg nivao u velikim zemljama, ne mogu da ih skrate, pa će to ponovo da isprogramiraju.
Još uvek nisu odlučili kako će se igrati sezona, objaviće u sledeći petak, budimo strpljivi.
Imaju ideju da izmene nacionalni kup, tj. da ostane ovakav kakav jeste jer ga svi mi jako volimo, ali da dodaju novi kup za slabije timove i one koji ispadnu negde od treće nedelje, da i oni imaju još malo da se igraju..
Za nešto od ovoga im treba 4 meseca razvoja, pa se nadamo da će biti i brže.
Valjda nisam ništa pobrkao..
Ni reči o povredama..
Skratili su broj liga, tako da većina zemalja ima tri nivoa, i prebacili akvitne korisnike u više lige. Imaju problem sa brojem liga najnižeg nivao u velikim zemljama, ne mogu da ih skrate, pa će to ponovo da isprogramiraju.
Još uvek nisu odlučili kako će se igrati sezona, objaviće u sledeći petak, budimo strpljivi.
Imaju ideju da izmene nacionalni kup, tj. da ostane ovakav kakav jeste jer ga svi mi jako volimo, ali da dodaju novi kup za slabije timove i one koji ispadnu negde od treće nedelje, da i oni imaju još malo da se igraju..
Za nešto od ovoga im treba 4 meseca razvoja, pa se nadamo da će biti i brže.
Valjda nisam ništa pobrkao..
Ni reči o povredama..
Dev. Diary 6: Leagues optimisation & National Cups idea
Off-season leagues optimisation
On Wednesday we made small adjustments to the league structures. Abandoned divisions have been deleted, and several users from those divisions promoted to higher levels. Most countries now have 3 division levels, except for a few countries with a large number of users.
Unfortunately, we faced technical problems with merging leagues together – and we won’t be able to tighten the number of leagues on the lowest levels. For the upcoming season the number of leagues in the remaining division stays the same, but we will prepare an additional merge for next season (it needs to be developed from scratch).
New season calendar proposal
We still need some time to adjust our final proposal for the new season calendar. Changes will be announced next week, together with quite a wide poll to measure different elements of our idea, to give us detailed data, if there is still need to refine the idea. We hope you can still keep patience :)
New formula for National Cups
According to the discussion about the National Cup and the results of our poll, we are able to announce our final proposal for that competition. The development will take some time, but it’s possible, that the new cup format will be introduced faster, than the general game update, maybe even within the next 4 months. We see, that most users prefer to play for some cup within their “reach”. This motivates us to add an extra cup for lower divisions. However we also think it's good to have a chance to play in one general national cup, too, and compete against the best teams. That’s why we decided to merge both ideas in one system (great thanks for some ideas from Sokker Development Forum that inspired us to do so). Below you can find a short summary of our final proposal.
National cups will be prepared in two versions - the National Cup, where all teams from the country can participate and League Cups, where only teams from the lowest divisions can play. The National Cup will start in the first week of each season, the League Cups a few weeks later. Teams from the lowest divisions, that drop out of the National Cup until the start of their league cup will also start in this cup.
Published on May 15, 2020.
Off-season leagues optimisation
On Wednesday we made small adjustments to the league structures. Abandoned divisions have been deleted, and several users from those divisions promoted to higher levels. Most countries now have 3 division levels, except for a few countries with a large number of users.
Unfortunately, we faced technical problems with merging leagues together – and we won’t be able to tighten the number of leagues on the lowest levels. For the upcoming season the number of leagues in the remaining division stays the same, but we will prepare an additional merge for next season (it needs to be developed from scratch).
New season calendar proposal
We still need some time to adjust our final proposal for the new season calendar. Changes will be announced next week, together with quite a wide poll to measure different elements of our idea, to give us detailed data, if there is still need to refine the idea. We hope you can still keep patience :)
New formula for National Cups
According to the discussion about the National Cup and the results of our poll, we are able to announce our final proposal for that competition. The development will take some time, but it’s possible, that the new cup format will be introduced faster, than the general game update, maybe even within the next 4 months. We see, that most users prefer to play for some cup within their “reach”. This motivates us to add an extra cup for lower divisions. However we also think it's good to have a chance to play in one general national cup, too, and compete against the best teams. That’s why we decided to merge both ideas in one system (great thanks for some ideas from Sokker Development Forum that inspired us to do so). Below you can find a short summary of our final proposal.
National cups will be prepared in two versions - the National Cup, where all teams from the country can participate and League Cups, where only teams from the lowest divisions can play. The National Cup will start in the first week of each season, the League Cups a few weeks later. Teams from the lowest divisions, that drop out of the National Cup until the start of their league cup will also start in this cup.
Published on May 15, 2020.
што каже борат секси тајм!
елем о повредама би било исто лепо, и нпр што мене тишти, кад играш против бота , а макар да њима буду терени на 100 посто, ако ми као јузери запуштамо пашњаке и ливаде.
елем о повредама би било исто лепо, и нпр што мене тишти, кад играш против бота , а макар да њима буду терени на 100 посто, ако ми као јузери запуштамо пашњаке и ливаде.
Prihvatili su ideju da se promeni redosled igranja ligaških utakmica, da bude na sledeći način:
1vs8
1vs7
1vs6
1vs5
1vs4
1vs3
1vs2
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1vs8
1vs7
1vs6
1vs5
1vs4
1vs3
1vs2
Najverovatnije već od sledeće sezone, samo da saznamo format lige i nedeljnih takmičenja.
1vs8
1vs7
1vs6
1vs5
1vs4
1vs3
1vs2
--------
1vs8
1vs7
1vs6
1vs5
1vs4
1vs3
1vs2
Najverovatnije već od sledeće sezone, samo da saznamo format lige i nedeljnih takmičenja.
Ovo je ok, da ti derbiji ne budu odmah u prvom kolu.
Pomena o povredama i dalje nema? Niko ni ne predlaze?
Pomena o povredama i dalje nema? Niko ni ne predlaze?
Biće sigurno nekog poboljšanja, za sada nisu u fokusu jer se lako implementiraju. Trenutno je najvažnijui format takmičenja i broj utakmica, novi trening smo, izgleda, svi prihvatili.
Prihvatili su i zaštitu NT igrača, odnosno da ne može neko da ih kupi, postane bot i da propadaju, nego će u nekom trenutku, što pre na TL. Nadogradnja onoga da je nemoguće kupiti i otpustiti NT igrača iz čiste zlobe ili zavisti.
Prihvatili su i zaštitu NT igrača, odnosno da ne može neko da ih kupi, postane bot i da propadaju, nego će u nekom trenutku, što pre na TL. Nadogradnja onoga da je nemoguće kupiti i otpustiti NT igrača iz čiste zlobe ili zavisti.
Dev. Diary 7: Season calendar - final voting
The game system – research
Three weeks ago, we asked you to complete a survey and share your comments on the proposals for the new competition calendar. Thank you for the extensive discussion. Many comments and new ideas were extremely helpful and some of them we included in the final proposal.
The winner of the survey is option 3 - a calendar based on increased number of teams in the league to 12 and 2 league matches a week. The calendar is completed by two further types of games - the International Cup (with group stage) and the National Cup. This option obtained over 60% of all votes and the choice of this option was supported by over 450 people. The results can be viewed at the survey link (we have just unveiled them for you). Here is the summary.
We are also pleased that only about 15% of users chose the option to leave the system unchanged – it shows us that you are open to see changes in the game.
At the same time, we know that some of you have submitted your own proposals on the Sokker Development forum as you were not satisfied with proposals 1 and 2 in the survey. We can see that these proposals have clarified into one fairly coherent alternative with 3 matches a week.
For this reason, we would like to introduce to you two final proposals for the vote.
Basic assumptions
Before you vote, here is some important information. First of all - we need to systematise the discussion because it is currently taking place at very different levels of generality - from the very general assumptions of the season, through the structure of individual types of competitions, to very detailed elements (such as promotions, relegations system, number of play-off matches, etc.).
At the moment, we are interested in the highest level of this discussion - mainly regarding the general system of matches (how many matches per week) and the number of matches in which we will participate, plus the structure of the league (how many teams in the league). These are the most important problems that we want to resolve first and then proceed to refining individual competitions or other, more detailed issues.
Therefore, when assessing two calendars, look at them primarily as a proposal for the number of matches per week and the number of teams in the leagues. We are still open to discuss the other elements (e.g. play-offs).
Other information relevant to your choice:
1. It is worth remembering the training system announced two weeks ago.
2. Elements related to the length of the season - will be adapted to the chosen solution (i.e. the length of the time of the injury, training pace, age of juniors, etc.) Try not to let these aspects of the game to suggest you anything when choosing your preferred system.
3. The graphics present "guaranteed" matches - those in which we will certainly play. Black frames additionally show where the next rounds of cups end. This makes it easier to assess the actual level of game intensity (remember that in cup competitions 50% less teams play at each subsequent stage).
4. Friendly matches can be placed in slots freed by cups, but they will lose significantly impact on training.
5. There was an interesting idea for a special "warm up" match which would be an alternative for teams not playing in the play-off, where the training effect would be similar to an official match. It will be considered but at the moment it is not the subject of the survey.
National Cup - is announced in the option presented a week ago, where all teams start playing in the National Cup and then the teams from the lower leagues have a chance to compete in the cups of individual league levels.
The International Cup - is announced in the initial proposal for further discussion - the cup combined with the group phase, which desire is to give each manager a certain number of guaranteed official matches, then the games take place on the basis of play-offs.
Cup discussions take place independently and are not subject to review in this survey.
Two system options
Option 1: (4 matches a week –> 12 teams in the league)
This is the winning line from the first vote, it remains largely unchanged. Its key assumptions are two league matches a week – they allow to increase the number of teams to 12 in each league.
Option 2: (3 matches a week –> league system unchanged)
This version is inspired by discussions on the Sokker Development forum. It is included in the 14-week calendar and maintains the league system in its current shape (one league match per week).
Summary:
From the development point of view, we consider both proposals to meet the requirements of our work on the development of Sokker. On the Developers' side, the preferred option is the first one, based on a system of two league matches per week. It seems optimal for us for several reasons:
1. Sets league matches as the primary competition guaranteeing two matches per week.
2. Cup games are additional challenges that enrich the game without creating too much training difference compared to those who drop out (10 available slots will be divided into fewer matches, but they can still be used).
3. Beginners starting the game during the season receive a team with two matches guaranteed.
4. We are shortening the season by 25%. It allows us to accelerate training slightly, while limiting the number of multi-divine players (thanks to faster aging).
5. It makes the main challenge of the game introducing young players to competitions mainly in league matches (giving you at the same time two matches weekly available), cup matches are an additional reward and expand the possibility of training rotation in several matches (we prevent one type of competition from being selected as "training").
6. Despite 4 matches a week, it does not seem too intense to us - remember the quickness of elimination from cup matches with subsequent rounds, only the best and most engaged players will play in such a number of matches.
Option two will require more work related to better matching of training bonuses so as not to give too much advantage to players who will play in cups longer than others (i.e. 3 official matches per week vs. one league), will also require adding bots to the cups (for a new player starting the game during the season to have a more interesting entertainment than just one league match per week). However, these elements are possible to address, which is why we present both options for discussion and assessment, understanding that regardless of which one will be chosen, we will have a significant change in gameplay compared to the current system.
Questionnaire
We have expanded the survey with several options that will allow us to better evaluate existing proposals.
In addition to the overall assessment of each of them and the choice between them, it is also possible to answer additional questions:
1. Preferred number of teams in the league
2. Number of matches per week
3. Playoffs (one match or rematch)
4. Inter-seasonal break or lack thereof
In addition, at the end we put a demographics questions that will allow us to better analyse the distribution of votes by country of origin, league level, experience, etc.
The game system – summary
The two proposed systems address many Sokker problems (of course not all, but this is a starting point for solving subsequent ones), give more emotions to all players, keep the important rule of assigning specific games to a selected day of the week. We hope that combined with information on training reform, changes will begin to appear more consistent and clearer.
Date of changes, method of implementation
Finally, we want to assure you – we still have a few seasons to play with the old game system. Changes require preparation and then detailed checking on the test server. We will not decide to introduce any new system until we are sure that all elements work in it, and at the same time it will give you time to think about tactics for the upcoming changes.
Increased game speed – tools
At the same time, given the greater number of matches per week, we will also develop a number of additional tools and improvements that will help you manage your teams faster and more efficiently, so that additional matches are not a problem. Works on the new interface and its improvements are underway, changes will be implemented, e.g. setting the squad for individual types of games, we will increase the reserve bench, we will allow to plan friendly matches in advance, and many more. Access to Sokker from mobile phones will certainly be significantly improved.
VOTE HERE -> Season calendar SURVEY
The game system – research
Three weeks ago, we asked you to complete a survey and share your comments on the proposals for the new competition calendar. Thank you for the extensive discussion. Many comments and new ideas were extremely helpful and some of them we included in the final proposal.
The winner of the survey is option 3 - a calendar based on increased number of teams in the league to 12 and 2 league matches a week. The calendar is completed by two further types of games - the International Cup (with group stage) and the National Cup. This option obtained over 60% of all votes and the choice of this option was supported by over 450 people. The results can be viewed at the survey link (we have just unveiled them for you). Here is the summary.
We are also pleased that only about 15% of users chose the option to leave the system unchanged – it shows us that you are open to see changes in the game.
At the same time, we know that some of you have submitted your own proposals on the Sokker Development forum as you were not satisfied with proposals 1 and 2 in the survey. We can see that these proposals have clarified into one fairly coherent alternative with 3 matches a week.
For this reason, we would like to introduce to you two final proposals for the vote.
Basic assumptions
Before you vote, here is some important information. First of all - we need to systematise the discussion because it is currently taking place at very different levels of generality - from the very general assumptions of the season, through the structure of individual types of competitions, to very detailed elements (such as promotions, relegations system, number of play-off matches, etc.).
At the moment, we are interested in the highest level of this discussion - mainly regarding the general system of matches (how many matches per week) and the number of matches in which we will participate, plus the structure of the league (how many teams in the league). These are the most important problems that we want to resolve first and then proceed to refining individual competitions or other, more detailed issues.
Therefore, when assessing two calendars, look at them primarily as a proposal for the number of matches per week and the number of teams in the leagues. We are still open to discuss the other elements (e.g. play-offs).
Other information relevant to your choice:
1. It is worth remembering the training system announced two weeks ago.
2. Elements related to the length of the season - will be adapted to the chosen solution (i.e. the length of the time of the injury, training pace, age of juniors, etc.) Try not to let these aspects of the game to suggest you anything when choosing your preferred system.
3. The graphics present "guaranteed" matches - those in which we will certainly play. Black frames additionally show where the next rounds of cups end. This makes it easier to assess the actual level of game intensity (remember that in cup competitions 50% less teams play at each subsequent stage).
4. Friendly matches can be placed in slots freed by cups, but they will lose significantly impact on training.
5. There was an interesting idea for a special "warm up" match which would be an alternative for teams not playing in the play-off, where the training effect would be similar to an official match. It will be considered but at the moment it is not the subject of the survey.
National Cup - is announced in the option presented a week ago, where all teams start playing in the National Cup and then the teams from the lower leagues have a chance to compete in the cups of individual league levels.
The International Cup - is announced in the initial proposal for further discussion - the cup combined with the group phase, which desire is to give each manager a certain number of guaranteed official matches, then the games take place on the basis of play-offs.
Cup discussions take place independently and are not subject to review in this survey.
Two system options
Option 1: (4 matches a week –> 12 teams in the league)
This is the winning line from the first vote, it remains largely unchanged. Its key assumptions are two league matches a week – they allow to increase the number of teams to 12 in each league.
Option 2: (3 matches a week –> league system unchanged)
This version is inspired by discussions on the Sokker Development forum. It is included in the 14-week calendar and maintains the league system in its current shape (one league match per week).
Summary:
From the development point of view, we consider both proposals to meet the requirements of our work on the development of Sokker. On the Developers' side, the preferred option is the first one, based on a system of two league matches per week. It seems optimal for us for several reasons:
1. Sets league matches as the primary competition guaranteeing two matches per week.
2. Cup games are additional challenges that enrich the game without creating too much training difference compared to those who drop out (10 available slots will be divided into fewer matches, but they can still be used).
3. Beginners starting the game during the season receive a team with two matches guaranteed.
4. We are shortening the season by 25%. It allows us to accelerate training slightly, while limiting the number of multi-divine players (thanks to faster aging).
5. It makes the main challenge of the game introducing young players to competitions mainly in league matches (giving you at the same time two matches weekly available), cup matches are an additional reward and expand the possibility of training rotation in several matches (we prevent one type of competition from being selected as "training").
6. Despite 4 matches a week, it does not seem too intense to us - remember the quickness of elimination from cup matches with subsequent rounds, only the best and most engaged players will play in such a number of matches.
Option two will require more work related to better matching of training bonuses so as not to give too much advantage to players who will play in cups longer than others (i.e. 3 official matches per week vs. one league), will also require adding bots to the cups (for a new player starting the game during the season to have a more interesting entertainment than just one league match per week). However, these elements are possible to address, which is why we present both options for discussion and assessment, understanding that regardless of which one will be chosen, we will have a significant change in gameplay compared to the current system.
Questionnaire
We have expanded the survey with several options that will allow us to better evaluate existing proposals.
In addition to the overall assessment of each of them and the choice between them, it is also possible to answer additional questions:
1. Preferred number of teams in the league
2. Number of matches per week
3. Playoffs (one match or rematch)
4. Inter-seasonal break or lack thereof
In addition, at the end we put a demographics questions that will allow us to better analyse the distribution of votes by country of origin, league level, experience, etc.
The game system – summary
The two proposed systems address many Sokker problems (of course not all, but this is a starting point for solving subsequent ones), give more emotions to all players, keep the important rule of assigning specific games to a selected day of the week. We hope that combined with information on training reform, changes will begin to appear more consistent and clearer.
Date of changes, method of implementation
Finally, we want to assure you – we still have a few seasons to play with the old game system. Changes require preparation and then detailed checking on the test server. We will not decide to introduce any new system until we are sure that all elements work in it, and at the same time it will give you time to think about tactics for the upcoming changes.
Increased game speed – tools
At the same time, given the greater number of matches per week, we will also develop a number of additional tools and improvements that will help you manage your teams faster and more efficiently, so that additional matches are not a problem. Works on the new interface and its improvements are underway, changes will be implemented, e.g. setting the squad for individual types of games, we will increase the reserve bench, we will allow to plan friendly matches in advance, and many more. Access to Sokker from mobile phones will certainly be significantly improved.
VOTE HERE -> Season calendar SURVEY