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Ovde na engleskom pise sta su najvaznije karakteristike potrebne za koju poziciju u timu tako da pre nego sto ubacujete svoje predloge za reprezentaciju procitate sledece
Part 1: (Shadow)
DEFENDERS
Theoretically, according to the prices on the transfer list, the most important skill for every defensive player is his defender skill. But considering it as the only important one is a huge mistake.
The lower the league is, defending skill becomes less important. The defender skill of a defensive player could be 2-3 levels lower than the attackers technique, and the attacker "shall not pass" (during his attempts from in front of defender) ;P
Generally, an adequate defender with so-called backgroung skills (i.e. pace, technique, playmaking) is more useful than a solid one without them. But the real test for every defenders is fighting against different attackers in the league.
Useful skills:
-defender
-pace
-playmaker
-technique
-passes (but I haven't if figured, if they are really essential)
r00zg4: Almost everything is OK, but I disagree with the passes. I think it is a very important and useful skill, especially now after the introduction of the new Sokker engine.
sorv: Considering passes, I reckon that the play on the pitch begins with defenders. Solid passes should be enough for the deffender to play a nice cross, that can be intercepted by wingers.
Sweeper
He needs only 2 main skills: defender and pace. As he is set to remain in box all the match long, playmaking isn't so important here. Technique could be quite helpful, because he would get better control of the ball (it would stick to him).
r00zg4: Yeap - nothing to add :]
sorv: So do you want to quit playing offsides and put the one last defender instead ? (the one that wouldn't change his position during the whole match?) If someone sets well his attackers, it could be costly...
Central back
He needs defendr and playmaker skills (closer the middle he plays, playmaking becomes more important). If we decide to play an offside-trap, we have to check 2 things: if our defenders are quick enough to return on time and if they have defendier skill high enough to clean the ball from an attacker's back (defender skill should be about 3 levels higher than the attacker's technique then).
r00zg4: If we play central back moved forward, the passes should also be "quite so", so that our defender could play a direct ball to another player, not risking interception and exploitation by opponents.
Wing Back
Wing back needs defending, speed and stamina (as he will have to make yards). The importance of playmaking depends on wht his task is: if we want him to support our wingers it doesn't need to be so high, but in that case, his technique should let him dribble one or two opponents.
r00zg4: I also suggest, that passing is very important skill, like pace and defending. If our DEF doesn't have passes, almost every ball intercepted by him near the line would be kicked outside the pitch, what is really frustrating... Thanks to passes, more balls will be directed to our players.
Part 2 (r00zg4)
MIDFIELDERS
Considering midfield, things get slightly complicated. Midfielder with high playmaking and low passes is actually useless !
Also a good MID should have quite good defending, technique, pace and shooting.
shadow: I would disagree with your saying that passes are useless, but I'll elaborate this later :)
Offensive Midfielder
His basic skills are playmaking, passes, technique, speed and shooting. Thanks to the last one, our ATT/MID would get the chance to beat opponent's goalkeeper with shots coming from outside of the box.
shadow: Well done, but there aren't many player like that :P As far as I am concerned, passes and playmaking are the basis, other skills - just a nice addition. We must consider, that such ATT/MID would get not more than 1-2 chances to beat the goalkeeper during the whole match.
sorv: Sometimes those shots aren't worth a penny, but if there are 5 shots during the whole match... it's worth then :) It would be a pity, if they were killing birds...
Defensive Midfielder
Apart from playmaking and passes, a very useful skills for a DEF/MID are also defending, pace and stamina. Stamina is especially useful, when we play with 1 DEF/MID who will need to run a lot... As we don't want him to lose any of his skills during the match, stamina should be as high as possible (the best would be formidable).
shadow: you are quite right, but I would also put technique here. THe player whose mission is to take the ball from the opponent is very prone to opponent's attacking players.
sorv: There is also a second nice type of the defensive miedfielder. If he has high playmaking instead of technique, he will lose the ball more rarely. Even solid-excellent technique could not be enough to dribble the opponent, but losing the ball is for us a real threat.
Winger
If we play 3 central DEFs, then apart from playmaking, passes, pace and technique, defence is very important, as he should fill the gap (we don't have wing backs).
If we play 4 or 5 in the back, then our winger could concentrate on attacking. Basic skills are much the same here: playmaking, passes, technique, pace, but also shooting.
shadow: Pace is extremely important, I would put it on the same level as playmaking. Considering passes, I would repeatedly argue that there are not so important, as winger needs only to play the ball into the box :] Playmaking - essential, more important than for other MIDs. It's pretty strange, byut wingers tend to dribble (so technique comes here)
ATTACKERS
There are 2 groups of the attackers: attacker playing slightly in the back and the on playing at the point (very offensively).
Main skills: shots, technique and pace.
shadow: and stamina (I had to add sth :P)
Attacker staying in the back
He will also need defending and (what may shock a little bit) - playmaking and passing. IMHO playmaking decides how quick such player can make up his mind: to shoot or to pass the ball to a partner. In the second option is where the passes become more important.
shadow: r00zg4 must be training attackers, as I have nothing more to add here ;)
Attacker on the point
Julius: correct me, because I don't know if that expression is precise
In the old engine things that mattered were shots, pace and defending.
Unfortunately, in the new engine deffenders make up their minds quicker, as they pass it forward as soon as they touch it (or kick it outside the pitch if their passing are tragic) So, if the opponents has DEFs withdrawn, defending skill of such attacker loses it's value and become almost useless.
shadow: I disagree :) Passing the ball outside the pitch is the result of poor playmaking.
Part 1: (Shadow)
DEFENDERS
Theoretically, according to the prices on the transfer list, the most important skill for every defensive player is his defender skill. But considering it as the only important one is a huge mistake.
The lower the league is, defending skill becomes less important. The defender skill of a defensive player could be 2-3 levels lower than the attackers technique, and the attacker "shall not pass" (during his attempts from in front of defender) ;P
Generally, an adequate defender with so-called backgroung skills (i.e. pace, technique, playmaking) is more useful than a solid one without them. But the real test for every defenders is fighting against different attackers in the league.
Useful skills:
-defender
-pace
-playmaker
-technique
-passes (but I haven't if figured, if they are really essential)
r00zg4: Almost everything is OK, but I disagree with the passes. I think it is a very important and useful skill, especially now after the introduction of the new Sokker engine.
sorv: Considering passes, I reckon that the play on the pitch begins with defenders. Solid passes should be enough for the deffender to play a nice cross, that can be intercepted by wingers.
Sweeper
He needs only 2 main skills: defender and pace. As he is set to remain in box all the match long, playmaking isn't so important here. Technique could be quite helpful, because he would get better control of the ball (it would stick to him).
r00zg4: Yeap - nothing to add :]
sorv: So do you want to quit playing offsides and put the one last defender instead ? (the one that wouldn't change his position during the whole match?) If someone sets well his attackers, it could be costly...
Central back
He needs defendr and playmaker skills (closer the middle he plays, playmaking becomes more important). If we decide to play an offside-trap, we have to check 2 things: if our defenders are quick enough to return on time and if they have defendier skill high enough to clean the ball from an attacker's back (defender skill should be about 3 levels higher than the attacker's technique then).
r00zg4: If we play central back moved forward, the passes should also be "quite so", so that our defender could play a direct ball to another player, not risking interception and exploitation by opponents.
Wing Back
Wing back needs defending, speed and stamina (as he will have to make yards). The importance of playmaking depends on wht his task is: if we want him to support our wingers it doesn't need to be so high, but in that case, his technique should let him dribble one or two opponents.
r00zg4: I also suggest, that passing is very important skill, like pace and defending. If our DEF doesn't have passes, almost every ball intercepted by him near the line would be kicked outside the pitch, what is really frustrating... Thanks to passes, more balls will be directed to our players.
Part 2 (r00zg4)
MIDFIELDERS
Considering midfield, things get slightly complicated. Midfielder with high playmaking and low passes is actually useless !
Also a good MID should have quite good defending, technique, pace and shooting.
shadow: I would disagree with your saying that passes are useless, but I'll elaborate this later :)
Offensive Midfielder
His basic skills are playmaking, passes, technique, speed and shooting. Thanks to the last one, our ATT/MID would get the chance to beat opponent's goalkeeper with shots coming from outside of the box.
shadow: Well done, but there aren't many player like that :P As far as I am concerned, passes and playmaking are the basis, other skills - just a nice addition. We must consider, that such ATT/MID would get not more than 1-2 chances to beat the goalkeeper during the whole match.
sorv: Sometimes those shots aren't worth a penny, but if there are 5 shots during the whole match... it's worth then :) It would be a pity, if they were killing birds...
Defensive Midfielder
Apart from playmaking and passes, a very useful skills for a DEF/MID are also defending, pace and stamina. Stamina is especially useful, when we play with 1 DEF/MID who will need to run a lot... As we don't want him to lose any of his skills during the match, stamina should be as high as possible (the best would be formidable).
shadow: you are quite right, but I would also put technique here. THe player whose mission is to take the ball from the opponent is very prone to opponent's attacking players.
sorv: There is also a second nice type of the defensive miedfielder. If he has high playmaking instead of technique, he will lose the ball more rarely. Even solid-excellent technique could not be enough to dribble the opponent, but losing the ball is for us a real threat.
Winger
If we play 3 central DEFs, then apart from playmaking, passes, pace and technique, defence is very important, as he should fill the gap (we don't have wing backs).
If we play 4 or 5 in the back, then our winger could concentrate on attacking. Basic skills are much the same here: playmaking, passes, technique, pace, but also shooting.
shadow: Pace is extremely important, I would put it on the same level as playmaking. Considering passes, I would repeatedly argue that there are not so important, as winger needs only to play the ball into the box :] Playmaking - essential, more important than for other MIDs. It's pretty strange, byut wingers tend to dribble (so technique comes here)
ATTACKERS
There are 2 groups of the attackers: attacker playing slightly in the back and the on playing at the point (very offensively).
Main skills: shots, technique and pace.
shadow: and stamina (I had to add sth :P)
Attacker staying in the back
He will also need defending and (what may shock a little bit) - playmaking and passing. IMHO playmaking decides how quick such player can make up his mind: to shoot or to pass the ball to a partner. In the second option is where the passes become more important.
shadow: r00zg4 must be training attackers, as I have nothing more to add here ;)
Attacker on the point
Julius: correct me, because I don't know if that expression is precise
In the old engine things that mattered were shots, pace and defending.
Unfortunately, in the new engine deffenders make up their minds quicker, as they pass it forward as soon as they touch it (or kick it outside the pitch if their passing are tragic) So, if the opponents has DEFs withdrawn, defending skill of such attacker loses it's value and become almost useless.
shadow: I disagree :) Passing the ball outside the pitch is the result of poor playmaking.
^ post napisan davne 2005.. vrlo koristan za pocetnike. u osnovi, vrlo malo toga se promenilo i gotovo sve i danas vazi.
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