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The Science of Interstellar
iar acolo
Causal loop
Daca intelegi ceva de acolo, e minunat :)
Dar cum spuneam, nu e imaginatia regizorului, nici presupuneri, este stiinta secolului 21.
iar acolo
Causal loop
Daca intelegi ceva de acolo, e minunat :)
Dar cum spuneam, nu e imaginatia regizorului, nici presupuneri, este stiinta secolului 21.
Early in the process, Thorne laid down two guidelines: "First, that nothing would violate established physical laws. Second, that all the wild speculations... would spring from science and not from the fertile mind of a screenwriter." Nolan accepted these terms as long as they did not get in the way of the making of the movie. At one point, Thorne spent two weeks trying to talk Nolan out of an idea about a character traveling faster than light before Nolan finally gave up. According to Thorne, the element which has the highest degree of artistic freedom is the clouds of ice on one of the planets they visit, which are structures that probably go beyond the material strength that ice would be able to support.
Aha... e un cerc nesfarsit, timeloop. Oamenii din viitor au creat gaura de vierme (wormhole) ca sa supravietuiasca oamenii din trecut. Si asta se repeta. Dar cum au ajuns aia primii acolo, asta e problema lui weah. Recunosc ca eram aproape de aceeasi parere cu el, am si zis ieri ca e un paradox da. Dar acum, dupa ce ma vazut ce ai postat am mai bagat o fisa si am gasit asta:
When I met Kip Thorne in person at Ohio State’s 2015 Alpheus Smith Lecture, I asked him if he had modelled events in the Tesseract as a closed timelike curve – one timeline with a loop. He said yes.
Si asta, parca se mai limpezesc lucrurile acum. Cel putin pt mine. weah, esti pe fir? E si pt tine asta :)))
Most people, after seeing the movie, came to this conclusion:
How can there be a wormhole that the crew goes through in the first place if the only way NASA learns how to make a wormhole is by Cooper being in the black hole and relaying the data to Murph via the Tesseract? How did the initial wormhole come into existence?
Well the answer is this:
So imagine this scenario: Prof. Brand and the NASA team are trying to figure out Plan A but they can't solve the equation. Originally there is no wormhole, and they are stuck on Earth as the blight is happening. Brand sends a team of astronauts and robots on a ship and travel to Gargantua without a wormhole (it just takes hundreds of millions of years). During this time they are in hibernation. They finally arrive on the planet, colonize, and send a probe into the black hole that relays the data to solve Plan A. After a long enough time of living on Gargantua, they evolve into 5D beings, and using the data from the probe in the black hole, they create the wormhole. Since it's 5D, they can go back and change events (time is not linear anymore). They make the wormhole, place it near Saturn, and then the events in the movie play out as we see them.
When I met Kip Thorne in person at Ohio State’s 2015 Alpheus Smith Lecture, I asked him if he had modelled events in the Tesseract as a closed timelike curve – one timeline with a loop. He said yes.
Si asta, parca se mai limpezesc lucrurile acum. Cel putin pt mine. weah, esti pe fir? E si pt tine asta :)))
Most people, after seeing the movie, came to this conclusion:
How can there be a wormhole that the crew goes through in the first place if the only way NASA learns how to make a wormhole is by Cooper being in the black hole and relaying the data to Murph via the Tesseract? How did the initial wormhole come into existence?
Well the answer is this:
So imagine this scenario: Prof. Brand and the NASA team are trying to figure out Plan A but they can't solve the equation. Originally there is no wormhole, and they are stuck on Earth as the blight is happening. Brand sends a team of astronauts and robots on a ship and travel to Gargantua without a wormhole (it just takes hundreds of millions of years). During this time they are in hibernation. They finally arrive on the planet, colonize, and send a probe into the black hole that relays the data to solve Plan A. After a long enough time of living on Gargantua, they evolve into 5D beings, and using the data from the probe in the black hole, they create the wormhole. Since it's 5D, they can go back and change events (time is not linear anymore). They make the wormhole, place it near Saturn, and then the events in the movie play out as we see them.
Problema lui weah era ca au gresit regizorii. Asta incercam sa explic, nu exista nicio greseala, totul se bazeaza pe stiinta.
Da si dupa explicatia aluia are logica acum totul. Diseara cred ca il mai vad odata :)
Interesanta explicatie. Eu din film am tras concluzia ca Cooper a facut totul, inclusiv gaura de vierme. Pentru ca, daca existau acele fiinte elevate, puteau dracului sa indice o planeta 100% compatibila cu viata, daca tot s-au obosit cu gauri de vierme si gauri negre.
Oricum, e un film care mi-ar fi placut sa-l vad in IMAX.
...mutați-vă bre pe topicul de religie...
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Avea tata o vorba, Dzeu sa-l odihneasca, "daca ma uit la un film, si in primele 2-3 minute nu au murit cel putin 50 de oameni, e un film naspa" :))
Nu detin adevarul absolut. Am presupus ca a fost o greseala. Dar in ultimele doua zile am invatat ceva. Conform cu ceea ce stim, credem si cunoastem acuma nu a fost nicio greseala. Si e ok. M-am mai impacat. Umpic. Dar asta doar pentru ca daca am putea calatorii cu viteza luminii eu as vrea sa pot calatorii cu viteza gandului. Si cand as putea sa merg cu viteza gandului as vrea sa merg macar umpic mai repede. Alt cerc nesfarsit LOOOL!!!
Viteza gândului e cea mai mare viteza posibilă.
Când spui mai repede decât viteza gândului deja viteza de propagare devine instant mai mare, dar pt ca a fost un gând te incadrezi tot acolo.
Dacă știi demonstrația teoretică cu imposibilitatea ca iepurele să depășească broasca țestoasă dacă îi oferi acesteia un avans știi despre ce vorbesc
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Când spui mai repede decât viteza gândului deja viteza de propagare devine instant mai mare, dar pt ca a fost un gând te incadrezi tot acolo.
Dacă știi demonstrația teoretică cu imposibilitatea ca iepurele să depășească broasca țestoasă dacă îi oferi acesteia un avans știi despre ce vorbesc
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Viteza gandului e doar in capul tau, nu ai cum sa o reproduci in realitate. Practic creierul este un mare si complex circuit electric iar impulsurile nervoase sunt transmise cu viteza luminii.
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Nu este un cerc nesfarsit ci o limita care tinde la infinit.
Apropo de creier și viteza gândului.
Noi folosim în jur de 5% din capacitatea creierului.
Un film de văzut pe această temă: Lucy
Noi folosim în jur de 5% din capacitatea creierului.
Un film de văzut pe această temă: Lucy