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A szerencse részben nagyon egyet tudok érteni veled. A régi csoport társaimnak már írtam, hogy az ifi suli az a mi kaparós sorsjegyünk. Játszunk kitartóan, hátha egyszer bele kaparnk a tutiba. Gyakran csalódás de néha néha érkezik egy két igazi nyeremény. Meg sokat hallani a csodákról is mint pl Gyenge ifi játékosa Mélykúti ha jól emlékszem a nevére és a bő 2 milliárd feletti eladására.
Úgy várom, hogy velem is történjen ilyen :)))
Úgy várom, hogy velem is történjen ilyen :)))
En ezt egyszer leirtam. Az ifi suli igen sokszor azert szar, mert az amugy tehetseges, de alacsony szinten feljovo ifiket kirugdossuk. Pedig ok edzessel siman utolernenek kitarto edzessel egy jobb kiegekkel, magasabb szinten feljovo de tehetsegtelenebb ifit.
A megyeiben, esetleg a III. osztályban meg lehet csinálni simán. Feljebb már nehezebb, mert vagy edzés és pénz, vagy eredmény. Vagy beáldozni a kupát, de üzletileg az sem jó.
Egyetértek gyengével, én megtartom az alacsonyabb szinten feljövő ifiket, és beáldozom a kupát. Ha miliárd fellett eladom szerinzem behozza a kupa árát.
Ezt így elég nehéz mérlegre tenni, hogy mi éri meg jobban. Korai kupabúcsúval nem csak a meccsbevétel úszik el. Esik a hangulat, mennek el a szurkolók, kevesebb néző bajnoki meccseken, kevesebb szponzor pénz, stb.
Úgy emlékszem, a kupa tétmecsnek számit, amiért több edzés jár mint a barátságosra.
De lehet hogy keverem a HT-el. :)
Úgy emlékszem, a kupa tétmecsnek számit, amiért több edzés jár mint a barátságosra.
De lehet hogy keverem a HT-el. :)
Nem kevered. :) ugyan olyan mint a bajnoki edzés tekintetében.
Nálam az edzésjelentés szerint a pénteki barimeccsen szereplők nem kaptak edzést, nagy piros pont van a nevük mellett.
Ez egy bug. Múlt héten is így volt, de az edzést azért megkapták, Azért nem lenne baj, ha mielőbb javítanák. :)
schaba to
Red_Pirate
Hát az ilyenek lehetnek bármennyit is a suliban! Mai felhozatal:
Barnabás Liszek 18 pocsék [3] mezőny 13
Krisztián Balaskó 17 pocsék [3] mezőny 23
László Dobor 18 felejthető [2] mezőny 26
Gusztáv Szalay 18 reménytelen [1] mezőny 28
Ezekből baltával sem faragható játékos, akármilyen az edző.
Barnabás Liszek 18 pocsék [3] mezőny 13
Krisztián Balaskó 17 pocsék [3] mezőny 23
László Dobor 18 felejthető [2] mezőny 26
Gusztáv Szalay 18 reménytelen [1] mezőny 28
Ezekből baltával sem faragható játékos, akármilyen az edző.
Red_Pirate to
schaba
Végül lesz valami abból ,hogy az ifisuliban lehet majd olyat, hogy külföldi ifik is jöhessenek (pl. afrikai ifik)? Korábban mintha lett volna ilyen felvetés a developement fórumon, hogy ki lehessen választani 2-3 nemzetiséget még.
Szerintem, mindenki ugyan annyit tud ezzel kapcsolatban mint te. Az utolsó infó nekem is ez, hogy lehet majd ilyen. De azóta nincs ezzel kapcsolatban új infó.
Személy szerint engem ez annyira nem izgat. Ha esetleg valami szuper ifim lesz (ha kapok) egyszer, akkor azt szeretném, hogy magyar legyen. De persze a nem túl sok felhasználóval bíró országoknak a nemzeti csapatát fellenditené ez az újítás.
Személy szerint engem ez annyira nem izgat. Ha esetleg valami szuper ifim lesz (ha kapok) egyszer, akkor azt szeretném, hogy magyar legyen. De persze a nem túl sok felhasználóval bíró országoknak a nemzeti csapatát fellenditené ez az újítás.
Jól sejtem, hogy a mérkőzése után megítélt ranglista pontok nem csak a ranglista pont külonbségéből lesz kiszâmolva, hanem a csoport különbségek is bele számítanak?
Öröm per pillanat ránézni a listára! :) Köszi, hogy említetted!
Nem fejlesztési napló, de az angol nyelvű fórumra érkeztek a fejlesztőktől a felhasználók kérdéseire további újabb válaszok. Ha lesz rá időm, majd lefordítom, egyelőre csak bemásolom ide:
2022-04-14 11:07:50
struś » struś
Please excuse my long silence. In the last weeks the work was mainly focused on fixing microbugs still related to the league reform and there was not much interesting for me to write - bugs were reported and fixed, mostly without additional comments from the developers.
Not all your questions have been fully answered, but the ones I've described certainly clarify a few things.
Thank you tsolias for your help in choosing the questions, I will try to answer the next ones on a weekly basis.
Q18: how many weeks NT-friendlies we have after NT world cup before end of new elections
A18: The change in the length of the season will perhaps also result in a change in election process. Perhaps both, the start and end date of the elections and voting may be affected, the answer depends on the choosen solution.
Matches pages of NT and U-21 are not compatible with bottom, left-menu clock (number of weeks). Will it be fixed, will we have strict, unifed calendar?
A19: If there is a problem still, please send more information.
Q20: Cup matches, weren't calculated in players statistic! Will the players which played cup matches receive training and how much (90 as official match or 75 as friendly)?
A20: The players who played in the cup matches have trained and will train accordingly to play in the official match.
As for the stats, it was an obvious mistake. However, there is no certainty that the developers will be able to count all the statistics "backwards", perhaps some will unfortunately be lost.
Q21: It is possible to confirm now if with the new training system (next season) a level above the super divine will be added (this would be "mega divine" p. ex)? raul mentioned it once.
A21: There are plans to introduce a 20-grade skill scale - so an additional level will be required. There is no implementation date set yet.
Q22: we may already know how stamina training would work? since the change in the training system was announced, it was explained that the stamina training would be changed but we don't know how it will be
A22: Both the training and the meaning of this skill will eventually be changed. One concept is that stamina does not refer to a single match, but to a pool of energy that is lost as you play matches and regained as days off. This will force a higher rotation of players and the need to manage their energy pool, translating into quality of play.
Q23: Some U21 match schedules show that two matches should be played in the same week ..(It affects Groups L, M, N, O (the groups are with link - see the error on rounds 4 and 5). Will this be fixed in time, or should I expect that there will actually be two matches?
A23: The problem of double matches on the same day will be solved.
Q23.1 Which seconds teams will qualify for the worldcup?
A23.1: The 17 teams from the first places in the groups and 15 of the 17 teams from the second places will be promoted. For all second placed teams a ranking will be made NOT INCLUDING matches against the last placed team in the case of 6-team groups. The best 15 teams will be promoted. The ranking will be based on the same assumptions as in the league i.e. number of points, goal difference, higher number of goals scored, higher number of victories, higher starting position (higher "pot").
Q24: if we train players with all the 4 orders (GK, DEF, ...) for individual training in the same week, will they all depend on the skills of a single main coach? so will the main coach need up to 4 training skills at once?
[edited: Will the quality of individual training responsibility lie mostly with the main coach or will there be a change, like the ability to assign different coaches to the skills we train?]
A24: The skills of the head coach will be decisive, it is important that he has the highest possible level of the skill(s) the players are being coached. Assistants on the other hand will add a bonus depending on their main level (not on the specific skill)
Q25: With incoming training reform we have an info that designed players will receive some sort of training, even if they were not playing. Any numbers on that?
it is also stated that the more player will play, the more it will affect his training. Will it have same proportions to full training as it is now
A: Yes, the reform includes the possibility for a player who has not played in a week to receive training. However, he will train noticeably slower than a player who has appeared in full or part of a game. An appearance in a National Team match will add another training bonus. A bonus for playing against stronger opponents is also expected. Exact training values will not be announced, we will let you estimate them using your own experience - as has always been the case in Sokker so far.
Q26: Hi, will extra sub spots will be added?
I am re raise the question as it's pretty important, especially when we use 3 SUBS and an injury occurs. Can it be increased at least 2 extra spots that we don't have to worry about giving to our players wrong ( ATT, MID, DEF) position orders. At the moment we have:
1: GK
2: ATT
3: MID
4: DEF
5: Random or extra 6th and 7th spots would be helpful.
Meaning if we use 3 SUBS we only have one player left...random SUB in that case either should take the same position order as the outcoming injured player at least or adding 3 extra spots can resolve that issue.
A: Once again, I confirm that there will be changes in the area of substitutes and match orders, but only after the introduction of the training reform. It is too early to write about the details - but yes, there are plans to develop the game in this area.
Q27: What is the timetable for the devs? When will we surely know if the training reform comes next season or some time after?
A: As planned, the reform should take effect from next season. I will try to get confirmation in the second half of this season.
2022-04-14 11:07:50
struś » struś
Please excuse my long silence. In the last weeks the work was mainly focused on fixing microbugs still related to the league reform and there was not much interesting for me to write - bugs were reported and fixed, mostly without additional comments from the developers.
Not all your questions have been fully answered, but the ones I've described certainly clarify a few things.
Thank you tsolias for your help in choosing the questions, I will try to answer the next ones on a weekly basis.
Q18: how many weeks NT-friendlies we have after NT world cup before end of new elections
A18: The change in the length of the season will perhaps also result in a change in election process. Perhaps both, the start and end date of the elections and voting may be affected, the answer depends on the choosen solution.
Matches pages of NT and U-21 are not compatible with bottom, left-menu clock (number of weeks). Will it be fixed, will we have strict, unifed calendar?
A19: If there is a problem still, please send more information.
Q20: Cup matches, weren't calculated in players statistic! Will the players which played cup matches receive training and how much (90 as official match or 75 as friendly)?
A20: The players who played in the cup matches have trained and will train accordingly to play in the official match.
As for the stats, it was an obvious mistake. However, there is no certainty that the developers will be able to count all the statistics "backwards", perhaps some will unfortunately be lost.
Q21: It is possible to confirm now if with the new training system (next season) a level above the super divine will be added (this would be "mega divine" p. ex)? raul mentioned it once.
A21: There are plans to introduce a 20-grade skill scale - so an additional level will be required. There is no implementation date set yet.
Q22: we may already know how stamina training would work? since the change in the training system was announced, it was explained that the stamina training would be changed but we don't know how it will be
A22: Both the training and the meaning of this skill will eventually be changed. One concept is that stamina does not refer to a single match, but to a pool of energy that is lost as you play matches and regained as days off. This will force a higher rotation of players and the need to manage their energy pool, translating into quality of play.
Q23: Some U21 match schedules show that two matches should be played in the same week ..(It affects Groups L, M, N, O (the groups are with link - see the error on rounds 4 and 5). Will this be fixed in time, or should I expect that there will actually be two matches?
A23: The problem of double matches on the same day will be solved.
Q23.1 Which seconds teams will qualify for the worldcup?
A23.1: The 17 teams from the first places in the groups and 15 of the 17 teams from the second places will be promoted. For all second placed teams a ranking will be made NOT INCLUDING matches against the last placed team in the case of 6-team groups. The best 15 teams will be promoted. The ranking will be based on the same assumptions as in the league i.e. number of points, goal difference, higher number of goals scored, higher number of victories, higher starting position (higher "pot").
Q24: if we train players with all the 4 orders (GK, DEF, ...) for individual training in the same week, will they all depend on the skills of a single main coach? so will the main coach need up to 4 training skills at once?
[edited: Will the quality of individual training responsibility lie mostly with the main coach or will there be a change, like the ability to assign different coaches to the skills we train?]
A24: The skills of the head coach will be decisive, it is important that he has the highest possible level of the skill(s) the players are being coached. Assistants on the other hand will add a bonus depending on their main level (not on the specific skill)
Q25: With incoming training reform we have an info that designed players will receive some sort of training, even if they were not playing. Any numbers on that?
it is also stated that the more player will play, the more it will affect his training. Will it have same proportions to full training as it is now
A: Yes, the reform includes the possibility for a player who has not played in a week to receive training. However, he will train noticeably slower than a player who has appeared in full or part of a game. An appearance in a National Team match will add another training bonus. A bonus for playing against stronger opponents is also expected. Exact training values will not be announced, we will let you estimate them using your own experience - as has always been the case in Sokker so far.
Q26: Hi, will extra sub spots will be added?
I am re raise the question as it's pretty important, especially when we use 3 SUBS and an injury occurs. Can it be increased at least 2 extra spots that we don't have to worry about giving to our players wrong ( ATT, MID, DEF) position orders. At the moment we have:
1: GK
2: ATT
3: MID
4: DEF
5: Random or extra 6th and 7th spots would be helpful.
Meaning if we use 3 SUBS we only have one player left...random SUB in that case either should take the same position order as the outcoming injured player at least or adding 3 extra spots can resolve that issue.
A: Once again, I confirm that there will be changes in the area of substitutes and match orders, but only after the introduction of the training reform. It is too early to write about the details - but yes, there are plans to develop the game in this area.
Q27: What is the timetable for the devs? When will we surely know if the training reform comes next season or some time after?
A: As planned, the reform should take effect from next season. I will try to get confirmation in the second half of this season.