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jarok [del] to
jezo
to ze je repre obranca grecka neznamena nic, ale tych 93 zapasov... no tak mozno myslel editor, alebo sa mu nechelo na to kuknut a mi len tak odpisal hocico z fleku :D
Shador [del] to
jezo
lenže včera mal taktickú disciplínu nanajvýš tak 11, to je len ľahko nad priemerom a stať sa to môže
jezo to
Shador [del]
jou ale skusenosti ma nadpozemske....
Ako troska logiky do toho..
ako je smiesne si mysliet ze prestupi skrtel a ocakavat ze nebude vediet sa postavit v zapase a potrebuje 10 zapasov aby si vedel najst miesto....
Ako troska logiky do toho..
ako je smiesne si mysliet ze prestupi skrtel a ocakavat ze nebude vediet sa postavit v zapase a potrebuje 10 zapasov aby si vedel najst miesto....
ale kaslat na to...Naco sa zaoberat vecami ktore namm akko ovplivnit. Su dolezitejsie veci na riesenie ako nejaky sokker...
jarok [del] to
jezo
ako je smiesne si mysliet ze prestupi skrtel a ocakavat ze nebude vediet sa postavit v zapase a potrebuje 10 zapasov aby si vedel najst miesto....
za prve, vzdy hovorim neporovnavajme s realitou, aj ked je snaha aby to fungovalo priblizene ku realu (nemyslim tym madrid:)
za druhe, ked pride obranca do noveho timu a nie je zohraty tak aj skrtel bude robit pozicne kiksy prave preto ze si este s spoluhracmi nerozumie, ver never ale je to tak
za prve, vzdy hovorim neporovnavajme s realitou, aj ked je snaha aby to fungovalo priblizene ku realu (nemyslim tym madrid:)
za druhe, ked pride obranca do noveho timu a nie je zohraty tak aj skrtel bude robit pozicne kiksy prave preto ze si este s spoluhracmi nerozumie, ver never ale je to tak
Shador [del] to
jezo
Ševčenko je určite lepší futbalista ako nejaký škrtel a v anglicku sa nedokázal vôbec presadiť, takže never tomu že by nepotreboval aspoň tých 10 zápasov aby sa zo spoluhráčmi zohral, nový tým je proste nový tým
sevcenko je utocnik, skrtel obranca :) neda sa porvnat
futbalista ako futbalista...
s medzinarodneho fora:
skratene : v prvom zapase sa hralo "normalne" 1:1
v odvete super nezmenil ani taktiku ani hracov on nezavisle na ostatnych skiloch dal najlepsich DEF do utoku a najlepsich technikou do obrany 0:2.
napr. 1zapas DEF odveta ATT
Facundo Monzón , age 29
value: 1 303 250 u$s
wage: 21 475 u$s
average [5] form
bookings:
formidable [11] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
divine [17] pace superdivine [17] defender
solid [8] technique adequate [6] playmaker
adequate [6] passing average [5] striker
Móric Tuhý , age 29
value: 1 099 500 u$s
wage: 15 275 u$s
excellent [10] form
bookings:
formidable [11] stamina tragic [0] keeper
brilliant [14] pace superdivine [17] defender
average [5] technique adequate [6] playmaker
solid [8] passing average [5] striker
http://online.sokker.org/comment.php?matchID=19406590
http://online.sokker.org/comment.php?matchID=19406589
Don Enzo komu Charles Hill
I'm really sorry to say this, because I had great expectations for the ME changes, and I've always support the development of this game and how devs tried to improve it, even if they took their time to do so. Even now I still support their resolution to make the best online football manager possible. Maybe because I trust their ability to make a better game I feel inclined to say this.
The new ME makes no sense. Despite some nice features that promised a lot in the first matches after the announcement, what we have now is a serious step back with respect the previous ME. The old ME was plagued by some irrealistic and/or disfunctional characteristics, but it has an internal logic of its own. Sure, it was right to end the superman headers, and defenders 'AI' opens the door to some new tactical developments. But the overall behaviour of the engine has been reduced to lottery where nothing makes a difference. Skills in general seem to be much less relevant and, what is worse, all players seem low-level rather than high-level. Or I should say: they all are "unpredictable-level". The opportunities to choose from a wide arrange of tactics (no, for the nth time: there was no need to play 5-2-3 in the old engine), even manipulate your tactic to obtain more long ball or more short passing (our ability to have a "constructive middlefield" was higher than ever), it all has disappeard now, and all matches have the same pinball-rugby flavour.
What convinced me of this, after several tests and a lot of discussion in the forum, is the proof that I got today. This match was the ultimate proof that we need a serious rework on the ME.
As you can see, this is no whining: I won this match. The problem is: I predicted this victory.
The problem is not the result (actually, it also is the result), but what is inside the match. Devs can quickly see what I mean by checking my lineup. The rest of you can't see my players' skills, so you need an explanation.
Las week, after watching a terrible match against the same team (it ended 1-1: I scored the equalizer at the very end, playing in 9 men), in which everything was about long balls and charging strikers, where strikers tackling defenders was much more important than defenders tackling strikers, I made a public promise. I said to my league mates: next match I will play the 4 guys with highest technique in defense, no matter what the other skills are. I will play the 3 guys with highest defending as forwards, no matter what tthe other skills. And I will place 3 of the remaining players in between, but closer to my defense, to launch long balls, and I don't really care who they are because it's not going to make a difference. And I'll win, even if my opponent is reading this, because this is how the new ME works.
You can take my word for it: I did exactly that (2 players were suspended, they were replaced by poorer players in terms of skills you're supposed to have in each position). One of my best mids still played as mid, then an acceptable young guy (6th best mid in my team) also played there, and the remaining mid was my worst mid trainee, because he had divine form :P
Dear devs: I should have lost at least 5-0. This is not a lucky match, an isolated, possible case. I did wrong almost everything that can be done wrong, except excluding my best players altogether. I basically took my 11 starters and shuffled them around the pitch, against the same opponent that proved to be a decent match last week when playing "normal". Things like this cannot happen in any ME with any hope of being fun.
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s medzinarodneho fora:
skratene : v prvom zapase sa hralo "normalne" 1:1
v odvete super nezmenil ani taktiku ani hracov on nezavisle na ostatnych skiloch dal najlepsich DEF do utoku a najlepsich technikou do obrany 0:2.
napr. 1zapas DEF odveta ATT
Facundo Monzón , age 29
value: 1 303 250 u$s
wage: 21 475 u$s
average [5] form
bookings:
formidable [11] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
divine [17] pace superdivine [17] defender
solid [8] technique adequate [6] playmaker
adequate [6] passing average [5] striker
Móric Tuhý , age 29
value: 1 099 500 u$s
wage: 15 275 u$s
excellent [10] form
bookings:
formidable [11] stamina tragic [0] keeper
brilliant [14] pace superdivine [17] defender
average [5] technique adequate [6] playmaker
solid [8] passing average [5] striker
http://online.sokker.org/comment.php?matchID=19406590
http://online.sokker.org/comment.php?matchID=19406589
Don Enzo komu Charles Hill
I'm really sorry to say this, because I had great expectations for the ME changes, and I've always support the development of this game and how devs tried to improve it, even if they took their time to do so. Even now I still support their resolution to make the best online football manager possible. Maybe because I trust their ability to make a better game I feel inclined to say this.
The new ME makes no sense. Despite some nice features that promised a lot in the first matches after the announcement, what we have now is a serious step back with respect the previous ME. The old ME was plagued by some irrealistic and/or disfunctional characteristics, but it has an internal logic of its own. Sure, it was right to end the superman headers, and defenders 'AI' opens the door to some new tactical developments. But the overall behaviour of the engine has been reduced to lottery where nothing makes a difference. Skills in general seem to be much less relevant and, what is worse, all players seem low-level rather than high-level. Or I should say: they all are "unpredictable-level". The opportunities to choose from a wide arrange of tactics (no, for the nth time: there was no need to play 5-2-3 in the old engine), even manipulate your tactic to obtain more long ball or more short passing (our ability to have a "constructive middlefield" was higher than ever), it all has disappeard now, and all matches have the same pinball-rugby flavour.
What convinced me of this, after several tests and a lot of discussion in the forum, is the proof that I got today. This match was the ultimate proof that we need a serious rework on the ME.
As you can see, this is no whining: I won this match. The problem is: I predicted this victory.
The problem is not the result (actually, it also is the result), but what is inside the match. Devs can quickly see what I mean by checking my lineup. The rest of you can't see my players' skills, so you need an explanation.
Las week, after watching a terrible match against the same team (it ended 1-1: I scored the equalizer at the very end, playing in 9 men), in which everything was about long balls and charging strikers, where strikers tackling defenders was much more important than defenders tackling strikers, I made a public promise. I said to my league mates: next match I will play the 4 guys with highest technique in defense, no matter what the other skills are. I will play the 3 guys with highest defending as forwards, no matter what tthe other skills. And I will place 3 of the remaining players in between, but closer to my defense, to launch long balls, and I don't really care who they are because it's not going to make a difference. And I'll win, even if my opponent is reading this, because this is how the new ME works.
You can take my word for it: I did exactly that (2 players were suspended, they were replaced by poorer players in terms of skills you're supposed to have in each position). One of my best mids still played as mid, then an acceptable young guy (6th best mid in my team) also played there, and the remaining mid was my worst mid trainee, because he had divine form :P
Dear devs: I should have lost at least 5-0. This is not a lucky match, an isolated, possible case. I did wrong almost everything that can be done wrong, except excluding my best players altogether. I basically took my 11 starters and shuffled them around the pitch, against the same opponent that proved to be a decent match last week when playing "normal". Things like this cannot happen in any ME with any hope of being fun.
(edited)
jezo to
Shador [del]
videl si niekedy stat defa
1,11
,1,,,
ako je tomu tu????
ja este nie...
ak sa obrana stahuje a def ostane stat, je to ok ale ked stoji uplne s cesty mimo linie a pritom je to reprezentacny def, tak je to troska divne....
1,11
,1,,,
ako je tomu tu????
ja este nie...
ak sa obrana stahuje a def ostane stat, je to ok ale ked stoji uplne s cesty mimo linie a pritom je to reprezentacny def, tak je to troska divne....
zaujimave citanie, uplne s tym suhlasim, tento engine je najhorsi co som kedy zazil a prakticky tu zalezi viac od nahody ako od skillov hracov ci taktiky
to ako sakra zmenili ten design... veď sa to v tom nedá hrať, buď budem musieť použiť starý skin alebo najlepšie bude sa neprihlásiť a hotovo...
uz aj pluskari musia mat na lavo reklamy? strasne ma to rusi a to nezvyjnem plakat nad blbostami