Subject: Fire sale!

Fire sale as I'm going bankrupt.
370k in debt.
Please bid generously :)

I only saw this after you sold the players. How are things looking now?

I’m struggling financially too. Hoping that in a season or two some trainees can be sold to generate some cash, as the gap up to the top teams feels very large at the moment!

he's a fake account don't bother. red dragon and cym wanderers are both the same person + probably the accounts of someone else in another league

for finanace, just keep turning players over than focusing on the league, buy 16, 17yos, train pace, sell at 20,21.

With a half decent tactic you can place top 3, 4. Just harder now cause of this guy using multiple accounts.

you can also track youth talent on various sites / with VIP and decent talents will sell for a bit too, any money you have just increase the stadium and increase tickets vs human teams.

Also report these 2 teams please cause clearly the same person has both accounts.

“he's a fake account don't bother. red dragon and cym wanderers are both the same person + probably the accounts of someone else in another league”

That’s a shame, I thought we were starting to get some decent teams in the league.

you can do the same, a lot of 30 yos go for fairly cheap, but they can decline pretty quickly but you can certainly test people.

but i did it like i said, buy waht looks like good talent, train, sell, develop talent. sadly you're in the wrong league if you want money fast :(

They have never shared an IP address for what it's worth.

no they just happen to have similar IP addresses, log in at similar times, and do exactly the same transfer philosophies - e.g. sign 30 yos to get an above average team quickly and run "meta" tactics, pretty good for players 5 months and less experience, not saying its impossible to figure it out that quickly BUT, they did it from day 1.

They maybe old players coming back? The fact is that they have not once had the same IP exactly. There was 1 transfer but it looks a fair price although I don’t have Admin powers to see exactly.

ok how about the 1-2 managers we had join cymru league last year/early this year with similar user names, doing the exact same things, messaged one of them to see if they needed help, responded back in broken english, so they are not returning players from cymru/uk - so it would be they are returning players from different nations, why would they choose cymru? a place where you can make no money and not grow as fast as you would in even a place like england for example.

to brush it off as "coincidence" would just be lazy and if my team is getting effed unfairly (breaking ToCs). not to mention the U21 manager getting more votes after these people joined, when myself and better prospects have offered to do the job. and you can say they don't have the same IP sure, but i can see from their profile it starts with the same 92.40, could be just a vpn in the same area giving similar ips but thats not my job to find out. your point is just about the ip, but not that they sign in within a few days of each other, at similar times, usually end of the month, for the last 3-4 months it seems. log in do the same thing, fire/sell, buy 30yo+ players.
all i can do is tell you my experience from the last 3 years and having similar people join, get banned, not log back in get deleted whatever. i've seen this before and it's happening again and if you want to give me a full report of it, i'm happy to read it.

all due respect, this has been a quiet league, we had 3 players for a long time, we had 1 romanian guy come, he changed league cause he wasnt making enough money. now the last year or so we had some ppl join, leave/get banned. we had a manager called jimmy, changed name to sally, got banned, now jimbo (similar to jimmy dont you think) is back.

for finanace, just keep turning players over than focusing on the league, buy 16, 17yos, train pace, sell at 20,21.

I think in wales it’s tricky as I’m straight into the top league. In other countries I’d be in with other noobs and bots, so I’d go with youths and accept being rubbish and growing slowly. In this case though that would probably mean at least 6 games of losing about 30 nil and I can’t hack that!

My youths are developing, but it’s a slow process. And I make little money from sponsors and games. I’m trying to develop the stadium, but again, it is slow.

I think I have a bit of an idea with youths now. Been using the sktables website to monitor them, as it’s not a very clear system.

cymru is good to have a youth team because you'll never get relegated so your youngsters can play more official games for more training %, I have been using sktables but i track training via sokker assistente.

I assume you have coaches that are 15 rated overall? for your youth coach its more accurate with 15,16 overall.

coaches can be a big expense though, what I did was save up and the end of the season i rolled some coaches until i got a decent 15 overall with a few 16s so i can change training accordingly.

yes, it's mainly rng with youths BUT, spoilers if you have a decent looking 18yo, bad talent, will still sell decently, not as good if you were to show their talent growth with assistente or the sokker tools.

https://geston.smallhost.pl/sokker/juniors.html
https://geston.smallhost.pl/sokker/
https://raqueto.com/sokker/asistente

all the stuff i've been using, but i've also been mentored by people who have played a long time but let me go my own way to learn from mistakes etc.
my biggest mistake was holding on to too much talent early on, i could have made 1 million with a player i had in my team from the start, but i kept him and didn't train him well, so ended up not growing as well as he should have.

also another negative in cymru, only way for big bucks is selling players, luckily market is inflated right now so easier to get some cash for half decent talent. but coming top 3, you don't get much at all, in terms of finances i'm so far behind little britain that even i can't guess how much he has, sells players for 5-10m, played longer.

nothin wrong with losing games either, all development of your players, if you lose 30-0, doesnt matter, 17 yo got his 100% training and pops pace next week, and becomes worth 1 milly.

you've done a good job so far, it's just about making the choices now if you do wanna compete or build a solid foundation of coaches, stadium, good talent. you're just unfortunate the market is like it is now because before training changed you could get 16, 17, 18 yos fairly cheap and randomly 2-3 of the 11 you bought would pop nicely and you can turn them over from training pace.
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Safe. Sold a youngster for a good price and got decent price on the striker.

Lots of accusations there.
I don't need to answer any of them.
Forum is not the place to do that. Also you hijacked a plea for bids to help me from going bankrupt!
If you had/have concerns you could have mailed me or went to admins.

Couple of things I'll pick out.
I'm not a fake account. Robots don't engage.
I am not Cym Wanderers.
Broken English? I said "Thanks" to your welcome message. Clearly you are not welcoming me. Vote? I didn't vote for anyone. But I'd find it hard to vote for you unless this attitude of yours changes.

There are a lot of allegations there, firstly this is not the place and if you have issues then please message me or an Admin. Secondly I don't think its being lazy to answer you when you have suggested certain things, if IP's are being shared then this is suspicious but this clearly is not the case here and I am stating that this is not the case to alleviate your fears. Admins have tools that I don't, however I can see if exact IP's are being shared.

i contacted the mods 2 to 3 months ago, i'm now escalating.

if they tell me no wrong doing has happened, i'll accept and shut.

for now you're right, i just got triggered and shouldn't have went off in a public forum but my points are still valid.