Subject: »[info] Dev Diary 77: Tax reform (final)

All teams were supposed to play in one of the international cups. More than 100 cups.

crazy! good thing that idea didn't progress further

Super crazy !! Fortunately the devs were strong enough to not fall into the trap set by some super active users.

@Damien2a not sure who proposed international cup on so many levels its not somthing i like as well but people want new international club competitions

Form me CL is ultimate goal in sokker in this or another format it should exist

They could make one International cup just like the one we have now and another one for weakest teams, something like "Champions League and UEL" or "CONMEBOL Libertadores and CONMEBOL Sul-Americana" thing.

yeap, but only first division teams and maybe cup winners.
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So win the worst solutions possibile: 12 weeks with 2 League match (terribile) per week and without International Cup (absolutely more interesting the 2 League games per week...)

Please, at this point made two serverà: One for originale sokker and One for new Speed sokker so old players like me can continue. I don't want to play this kind of "new sokker"

Good question on french forum :
With 2 league match in a week + cup rounds, it will be difficult to find time to train younger players to be competitive enough. If i loose quicky in cup, i have 2 solution for young trainees :
- play league games but have a weaker team and possibly loose games, sponsors, money
- play friendlies but having a big loss in efficiency of training for youngsters

I think this is exactly the case right now - When you are eliminated from the cup, you have to choose between either play with trainees in league or lose training effectiveness. So nothing changes.

Not exactly because effectiveness of freindly will be even lesser than now in the future.

For me the part for league cup is not really clear.
So there will be only just one competition for the ones who are eleminated from the national cup ?
Or is it sth else ?

Maybe I' missing something but I've never read something about that.

We can assume that this will not be the case if we follow this Raul's example:

So, just for example:
Basic traning, lets say - 60%.
Friendly: another 20%.
Official game 35%
(numbers are just a example)

vs. today:

basic training 0% - you dont gat any training without game
friendly game - 80%
official one - 95%.

Making two separate games should be seriously considered. Most people who want faster games prefer to play on the phone, and Sokker with its complex tactics editor is not suited for that. So I'm not convinced all those changes will attract a lot of new users. Have a new game with more matches, simplified tactics and a phone app, while keeping the "classic" Sokker.

That said. I think the current plan is a reasonable compromise. Personally I'm not excited about bigger leagues and 2 rounds per week, but apparently many people want it, and without an international cup it's just about acceptable.

I still think there could be an international cup or league basically as an official friendly league (but not as competitve games), since there will be fewer friendlies due to the league cup. It would even make sense to have regular friendlies on the weekday of this international cup instead of the day for the national cup. That would make friendly leagues more practical, since they could be played with teams eliminated after the group stage of the international cup, and you don't have to wait for teams to be eliminated from the league cup.

Also if people want more matches, why not allow Arcade leagues or cups? It would also be an attractive Plus feature.

I did not read this info, thx a lot. Raul told that friendlies will be very less effective than now but here, with your example, it is not the case, it is the same as now as you said.

Totally agree. I think proposal is even worst than today, because young players have to play in order to get maximum training. So, without friendlies, they have to play at league, so league level would decrease.