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Subject: »[update] Improve tactics

2020-04-10 17:40:36
Terrion to All
Tactic editor is one of the best parts of Sokker, but it's a bit too hard to compose new tactics since it takes a lot of time to navigate through all the 35 parts and place all the players in the right position.

I would suggest to add ways to simplify the making of new tactics, like SETE does, but it could be even better:

- Posibility to select several players. It would be great if you could make a mouse selection like drawing editors and select the players inside a square. This way you could move all of the selected players draging the selection with the mouse. Also you could apply a mirror to them or, if you just selected 2 players, swap their numbers. There could also be a button to automatically renumber all the players, so it would be easier to change from one tactic to another during the matches

- Posibility to combine tactics. Many times you want to use the defense of a 5-3-2 tactic, but you need one winger, which you have in a 4-4-2 tactic, or want to make a 5-4-1 tactic combining a 5-3-2 and a 4-5-1 tactic. It would be nice to be able to do this, maybe like SETE does, but there could be a better way

- Move selected players in many parts of the pitch. Sometimes you want to move up or down the whole defense. It could be cool to choose the parts of the pitch where you want to achieve the movement and apply the movement to all of them, or even the 35 parts

I think these changes would give people the motivation to prepare better matches and enjoy them much more than now.
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2020-04-10 17:44:36
seems great tool and looks good +1 for me
2020-04-10 17:48:26
group/ungroup option :)
2020-04-10 17:56:49
I would like to see an offensive, neutral or defensiva atribute on the player in Front of def mid or att selection.

So the player knows if need to wait or attack the ball. That gives u a small improvement on how your team movés and no need to add more squares on the tactic editor
2020-04-10 18:02:47
With "square selection" a mean this:

2020-04-10 18:05:45
Yes. I mean each square of 5x7 matrix in the editor.

My comment is referring to a different idea
2020-04-10 18:10:53
Oh sorry, you mean this then:



I've played that kind of games and in my opinion Sokker tactics are much better, but it's an option :)
2020-04-10 20:07:43
-1
2020-04-10 20:11:23
-1
I love the sokker tactic editor.
2020-04-10 20:17:41
+1
2020-04-10 20:21:54
-1

Like alienomo reason
2020-04-10 20:38:12
-1
2020-04-10 20:41:20
guys did you logged in @terrion application? its like sokker editor but improved
2020-04-10 20:59:43
An addition of "frequent action" like suggesting players to "act" while on the ball like "dribble" or "cross" option for wingers, combination pass or run behind def for strikers... such things would be a great asset :-)
2020-04-10 21:07:23
Basically in my opinion there is something that can be changed in the current tactic editor and I definitely agree with the first point (selecting several players), but I think that the copy/paste tool makes creating a tactic not as painful as it might seem.

I wouldn't mess too much with the current editor overall, those are some cosmetic changes you just proposed and this wouldn't impact the general feel, which I think is a must-stay feature.
2020-04-10 22:08:34
My wishes and my suggestions

TACTICAL EDITOR
* Please, do not change this editor for another one. It's the heart of sokker.
It is the most "accurated + easy-learn" I ever see in soccer browser game I play. Much more then other editors, we can see and understand in-game changes related to our tactical changes. But, for sure it needs an update.
Over the inferface upgrade (switch, multiple selection, etc...), my suggestion to improve it are:

* Actually we have the pitch squared in a 5x7 space: for each square we set player positions.
You could square the pitch in a 7x7 space, adding external squares (7 on right column, 7 on left column).
External squares will be used for trow-in and corner-kicks placement.

MATCH ENGINE
* Actually, as I can see, the team performance is too much related to strikers performance. Specifically, strikers play too much on ther primary skills (speed/tecnique/shooting). If possible, I would set differently the % of ME choices for players.
For strikers choices: less "running/dribbling", more "passing"
For midfielders: less "passing", more "dribbling/shooting"
* Passing quality: increase difficult for long passing, decrease for short passing
* Make easy penalties
* Different choices shoot/passing for free kicks (actually we have almost shoots)

MATCH SETTING PAGE
Add a 2nd additional tactic.
Add 1 more sobstitution player (field player, not gkp).
Modify orders page, with multiple selection numbers for sobstitution, in single order/row.
(Example: Red card or missing player / Pinco Pallino / Position 2-3-4-5)

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