Azərbaycan dili Bahasa Indonesia Bosanski Català Čeština Dansk Deutsch Eesti English Español Français Galego Hrvatski Italiano Latviešu Lietuvių Magyar Malti Mакедонски Nederlands Norsk Polski Português Português BR Românã Slovenčina Srpski Suomi Svenska Tiếng Việt Türkçe Ελληνικά Български Русский Українська Հայերեն ქართული ენა 中文
Subpage under development, new version coming soon!

Subject: [change] Visibility of the skills of the U21 and NT players

2020-05-05 17:03:21
I dont want to count and resume but im clearly not convince of a majority saying YES to all skills visible (for NT only and without restrictions)...

You are right.

EDIT :
---------------------------------------------

For the pain... i count.
And it was difficult...

— i count 14 voices YES, strictly yes to "show all skills for nt coach."

— i count 8 voices NO. strictly against "show all skills for nt coach."

— I count 6 voices for alternative solution "users can refuse to show skills to the NT coach in config"

— i count 3 voices for status quo.

There s a bias : some users "change their mind", or not strictly Y or N, i count them in both voices (for ex. sviktorov is YES first, but not against an alternative )

So if count the voices for the proposal (slamtam 1st post)
It's 14 YES vs 8 NO

if i count all the voices YES Vs other voices (no, alternative, status quo... )
it's 14 users Vs 17 users

Finally, voices are not votes. But for sure, Zero consensus or any large majority ^^

(edited)
2020-05-05 22:43:12
I may have been hard on what I said, but explain and detail the points of why I think that

you exaggerate by 20-30 votes inflating artificially an idea of a controversial change (change that by the way is what you want)

You are also not very friendly when you say things like:

"I hope you could enjoy this attention" , "The attention of the large minority is disproportionate to the attention of the desire of the large majority"


classic victim mentality ....
2020-05-05 22:47:58

Thanks for your efforts

without a doubt you have been the best in this topic
2020-05-05 22:57:42
Thank you very much for these efforts. I have now gone over the results again. I refer here to the clear YES and the clear NOs. Intermediate opinions or abstentions are not taken into account, because the decision is linked to other ideas (for example, no more injury for the NT players, etc.)

If I have misunderstood a user's opinion, please let me know so I can adjust it. Please do not get personal here if someone does not share an opinion.
2020-05-05 23:48:41
- you can add King-Karl to NO, remove my YES to NO (i "change my mind", i am against a YES)
- I dont count KautukP, cranber, juno to YES (+1 but for who ? not clear)
- I doesn't not really make sense to not add alternatives, not count a total of voices or even status quo (who mean literally a NOT YES to your proposal).

You made your topic and your count against "a crass minority" (to quoted yourself)

Despite my effort to find a consensus for the Devs and NT coaches, this topic is too much orientated for me, i forgive.
(edited)
2020-05-06 00:17:17
Okay, your changed mind has been adjusted.

About other managers' opinions: They have to express their own opinion here.
2020-05-06 00:37:23
All disputes like this one will not go anywhere.
Only way to solve it is a poll..
(edited)
2020-05-06 01:07:18
I also suggested a few posts above!:)
2020-05-06 11:40:10
You are right!

We should start a poll, then we will know more about it. In the next few days I could start one (if no one has done it yet).
2020-05-31 16:11:26
Yes from me as well :)
2020-05-31 16:15:33
Yes
2020-05-31 16:22:36
Yes
2020-05-31 16:25:40
Yes
2020-05-31 16:28:05
Yes
2020-05-31 16:59:24
yes
2020-05-31 17:00:54
yes