Subject: [change] Visibility of the skills of the U21 and NT players

I think being NT-coach of a big nation can lead to build up an enormous database of talents to use for some season.

I prefer that skills are visible to EVERYONE on to NONE.

Oh so you want everybody to urinate in front of everyone . :)

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to everyone never gonna happen i think. to NT its already happening by scouting giving them consent to have it will just facilitate their job. At the end you cannot prevent scouting so why not help a bit with so tide fixtures at the end NT is a elected position

:) Isn't it better than not to urinate ?

I can see that you misunderstood what I'm tryimng to say, well, why I'm not surprised? :)
For now you can urinate (keep your players skills unknown for NT coach) as much as you can. That's what i call a privacy.

edit: skills are hidden for all NT coaches for over a 14 years so far, if this fact is too difficult to accept, just do not candidate for a NT coach, easy solution :)
BTW, if you want to organize some poll, i recommend you to go to polish 1st 2nd and 3rd division and ask managers there what they are thinking about this idea :)
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Well there is already a poll that everybody can join .
And currently most of the users are on the change side.

skills are hidden for all NT coaches for over a 14 years so far, if this fact is too difficult to accept, just do not candidate for a NT coach, easy solution :)

Such an idea :) So lets keep everything as it is ... Lets accept all the facts which is in place for 14 years ..

You are urinate in the toilet in the factory where are 10000 workers, but only General Manager can watch you while you are pissing... Do you remain private or not? :)


What kind of weird metaphor did you use here? Comparing player skills and urine. Weird!

I'm a little astonished too.

You wanna talk about privacy in Sokker here? Well, I'm not talking about player skills. I'm talking about other things that are more relevant than player skills.

The job of a NT and U21 is usually a thankless job. Why do only 1-2 managers per country apply? Why don't they all compete for these jobs? Because there is a lot of work to do and it takes a lot of time (Scouting, Tactics, Organization, Consulting, "Public relations" and much more. So, why not provide some help tools here?

Yes, one can argue here that the choice is voluntary. But imagine nobody cares about the NT and U21 anymore, then the game would be poorer by some attractions.

But imagine nobody cares about the NT and U21 anymore, then the game would be poorer by some attractions.

And that's not what's happen now ? ^^

I must say that less and less users are collaborative and don't care about NT for sure.
For sure, NT players, NT management and collaboration need changes and additions to become attractive again. NT is (for me) one and the best reason to keep playing sokker (as NT coach, scout, DB manager...).
Visibility ok skills could help, but that's just one very small part...

We spend too much time discussing, voting, for something that could be solve with a compromise 2 weeks ago, and now we get a "poor" (only 60 votes) poll for a result i already calculate in this topic before... BRAVISSIMO

I think, simple fact to show the players skills to NT coach will create a level-up on every NT-s work and on WC-s finally we could watch really the better players of qualified teams

NT world is needed this help to can select really better players of the countrys.
Without to guess skills of bot teams players and without to guess if sent skills are real or not.

A small minority is against it and as I noticed, there are two main reasons:


Correction, a minority of those who come to this topic and took the time to read and respond in English.

We already agreed in a topic weeks ago that we are not the majority.

EDIT: offtopic, but it would be nice to know who/ what % of all players actually come to this forum, (and I assume there is also a Spanish and Polish version)

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+1 for idea,also that was my idea becouse many users dont speak english and some managers dont want to replay for some reason.With few managers I had good comunication one season but another season they stop to answering on my messages,why?nobody knows
This is also good becouse maybe some manager have several NT player for few countrys and when he recine 6-7 mesages from 6-7 managers maybe he go crazy :).
Also this post will alive this thread a little bit :)

What If this is a choice made by the owner of the player. Something similar like terrion has asking: do you want to show your players to the NT coach? So for example I have 1 player from Norge, both NT coches from Norge can see the skills of this guy anytime.

On the other hand, you have managers who dont like to contribute to the NT. Then lets say weekly the national team can get 1 credit which can be usted to see the skills of one particular player from your nation...


Also I think that injuries on NT should be removed. One player playing on the NT could be injuried, but when finishing the game will be as he was beforale so it doesn't affect the club on sunday's match, similar to árcades could work
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There is also 1 other solution... Separate databases! Same players. So if a player plays for his team, all personal events like cards and injuries will be stored in the teams database.
But if these events happen for NT's, it will be stored in the NT database. So the only thing happening in general, so for both teams, is the exp, form and training update.
This way, 1 player can be injured for 1 database and at the same time, healthy for the other database! Problem solved ;-)

I see three ways : First is to put options in club "I want or dont want to show my players to NT coachs" second way is to allows view of skills to NT coachs and fhird way is to stay like this.
U21 NT coach can see only young players if he calls them in squad and NT coach can see only playes above 21y.
Thin out the number of injuries and maybe get smaller wages to NT players so managers will have more interes to train NT players :)

or... do as I said. NT managers can see all players... no training benefit, no injuries from NT to club or vice versa and only exp benefit...

To be a good manager of the NT or u21 team at least you need a database in this game.
Is there a database? No. You need an external programma for this.
What?????

The Developers must create this, otherwise it is no use to have this teams, too much work for the manager. In most countries is a hell of a job to find a manager and thats why mostly they will not have any scout helping them. Only big countries with many users can manage this well. This is no good thing.

So stop with u21 and nt or do something to change this.
So best thing in my opinion is to create an nt database in sokker. Every manager in sokker can put his player in there if the player has certain minimum requirements of skills.
If there will be no database the nt manager has to see the skills of the players. Of course a database is better, seeing skills can create advantage for the u21 manager for his club team.
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i have nt database in excel and it works just fine