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Subject: [Idea] combining smaller country leagues

2020-04-28 11:33:12
The choice of African countries available in the game now seems pretty random.

With some insight from being around when this was occurring, sokker used to have very few (comparatively) nations you could pick from. In an attempt to grow sokker, and to let people actually represent their own nation, managers were able to say where they came from and what country they would like to represent.
This is why the African nations are so random, because they represented the managers at that time.

It wasn't always easy for people to move to the new country however. Initially people could just transfer across to another nation with their team, but this is what caused Island to be so incredibly one sided with one team just forever dominating. After this, users could move but had to have a new team (not sure whether they had to sign up for a new team, or if everything was reset).

Anyway, just a bit of a sokker history lesson.

2020-04-28 11:38:10
+1

Sokker always needed this.

Cluster nations with small number of users together. And when a nation gets a certain number of users, they can break off and have an exclusive league system.
2020-04-30 23:26:06
Definitely, it's amazing how many countries have just 2 or 3 players. I'm surprised any ever stayed active as they are basically just playing bots.

Maybe they just take their friendlies seriously, I'm not sure
2020-05-03 08:36:48
Many +1 in this thread, this should seriously be considered
2020-05-03 12:41:23
+1000
2020-05-03 13:20:40
Many +1 in this thread, this should seriously be considered

+1 for what ? :-)

That's a very technical and particular solution, its not usually a good idea to start a topic with such deep details...
But for sure, i dont care about this solution or another (better?) one, too technical for me; just "combining smaller country leagues" its ok for me whatever work ;-)

+1
2020-05-03 16:09:16
I agree, and added that the NT should also be keep
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2020-05-06 17:03:12
+1

This should be priority for devs, to implement it before new season start. Competitivnes in those small countries is close to zero, and this would be huge boost for them. Very good work achmid.
2020-05-06 17:33:12
+1

Very good idea.

Now, on czech forum... Many users want leagues together with Slovakia. :D :D (it is not my idea, but from me +1).
2020-05-07 02:05:53
Thanks guys.

Yes it would be very good, as you don't want those few users already there in those countries to leave in the time between now and the major. Sokker overhaul.

And that is interesting with those two countries. I'm sure there are countries out there which would be happy for permanent change anyway.
2020-05-10 01:27:26
This seems very unlikely, which is OK, but you just never know
2020-05-10 16:14:11
-1
2020-05-10 16:16:24
That's ok, it won't affect Colombia anyway being the 15th biggest country in sokker :)
2020-05-12 19:53:45
And don't forget, all countries should be added to Sokker, not just the once that are now available.

Alphabetical list of countries of the world

https://www.countries-ofthe-world.com/all-countries.html
2021-11-15 09:14:17
Again in this topic, hope it will be seen and more then considederd!


But I made a dumb mistake with leaguestructure, It should be:
1-1-2-4 (-8) (-16) (-16) + large bottom division

This way it is even more easy for teams to have their own league. 8 +8 + 16 teams for 3 full divisions + a large bottom league for new managers during the season

I don know 1 country that has 2 second divisions. All divisions should have 8 teams, except for the bottomleague, if there are not enough managers for a new division that won't be mostly bots

After each season
division 1: 4 teams are save (1 is champion), 2 teams play p/d for degradation to second division 2, 2 teams direct degradation to second division
division 2: 2 teams promote directly to first division,, 2 teams play p/d for promotion to first division, 2 teams play p/d for degradation to third division, 2 teams direct degradation to third division
division 3: 2 teams promote directly to second division,, 2 teams play p/d for promotion to second division, 2 teams play p/d for degradation to fourth division, 2 teams direct degradation to fourth division
etc etc
bottom league: 8 bots so there is division, the rest are all human controles teams that will start in this division. All human controled teams play matches against each other, each week! Not a single week can be a free week for a human controled team. All have fait changes to win this bottomleague. Teams will always play against 1 or 2 teams lower on the ranking to prevent the same opponent over and over again.

If for example division 3 is still mostly human controled teams but a fourth division will mostly be bots of 32 teams, then there are 2 options;
- Another division 3 structure (that will be called division 4)
- 0r a large bottom league like juniors where all new managers start, and the best of these managers will at the end of a season replace all bots in the lowest division. If there are still hunman controled teams over in the large bottom league., then the numbers 8 in lowest divisions will direct degradation to bottom league and be replaced by these teams, or there must be p/d matches


Ofcourse this is all with divisions of 8 teams, more teams in a division will kill Sokker right away, not even enough managers to make that happen.