Subject: »[Change]New form system

On demand of others I'll write my idea for changing the current random form system to a more logical approach...

Player doesn't play a league or cup match in a week, form goes down! (random number between 0 and 3 points)

Player plays, Form will evolve depending on 2 factors:
- Team Result
- personal influence in a match!

Make a system...

Match played... +2
Win... +2
Draw... 0
Defeat... -2
Assist... +1
Goal... +1
Goal conceded... -1
Only for GK and DEF: clean sheet bonus... +3
Decisive in 3 goals for your team (either goal or assist). Negative or 0 form level becomes +1
This means a player who had a foot in 3 goals for his team will ALWAYS go up in form, regardless of the score!
Injury... -2
Skill pop... +1
Skill drop... -1

Max up +5
Max down -5

All these numbers are propositions! I'm always in favor for debate on this matter ;-)

Why not but I am just afraid this system would advantage the top team in each division and will create a negative spiral for the weakest ones.

Personnaly I like the unpredictability of the form but maybe we should just have more explainations on how it is currently working to be able to influence it.

+1 good idea....

maybe new mental coach...

play in NT, U21 +1-2 form

and joke :D

winner CC +1000
winner league +100
winner cup +50

+1

I hate when my striker scores hattrick in a league game and the next day his form goes down by 3

Why not but I am just afraid this system would advantage the top team in each division and will create a negative spiral for the weakest ones.

Yes, you are right that would happen with the proposed solution. Therefore i need to give this:
-1

Although i think the form algorithm should be changed.

I hate when my striker scores hattrick in a league game and the next day his form goes down by 3

He got drunk celebrating :D.
You need to issue some restrictions on the amount of alcohol :D

-1

:DDD

My main problem with the current system is the fact there is no logical sence whatsoever! And if we speak about random, then ...
I'll explain with an example of my own...

Dimitris Koniaris, age: 23

club: Racing Roeland, country: Hellas
value: 888 750 €
wage: 13 075 €
hopeless form
brilliant tactical discipline
height: 181 cm, weight: 73.4 kg, BMI: 22.4
bookings:
NTDB:

formidable stamina tragic keeper
divine pace brilliant defender
outstanding technique outstanding playmaker
excellent passing adequate striker
Statistics:
Official matches: 65
Goals in official matches: 1
Assists in official matches: 7
Matches for national team: 2
Goals for national team: 0
Assists for national team: 0

It is like this for about 3 full seasons now!
He managed to play himslef in the U21 team 2 times!
Then he got injured, his form dropped and he never ever got above weak in 3 full seasons!

The current NT manager of Greece doesn't understand why he didn't play more matches for the U21...
Well, 1 reason... Form!
I'm playing for over 3 seasons now in 2nd class in Belgium, always managing at the upper half of the stand (now currently 5th cause of a cup-run this season) and he's a regular in my senior team for the 2nd season in a row.
But he's also a reason why I didn't become champion last season.

I can always adjust the numbers if they should be slightly unfair, but it resembles imo really well with the IRL form fluctuation.

-1

On demand of others...

This would be very discouraging for the teams that are fighting their way up.
Someone gets into the first division, loses a match or two, and then everything gets much worse.

-1

Form is ok as it is currently

Why not but I am just afraid this system would advantage the top team in each division and will create a negative spiral for the weakest ones.

Yes, you are right that would happen with the proposed solution. Therefore i need to give this:
-1


Counter proposition...

Match played: +3 in stead of +2
Match lost: -1 in stead of -2

Max + form below formidable (11) = no limit
Max + form above excellent (10) = 4
Max - form above excellent (10)= 5
Max - form when below formidable (11) = 2

-1

for this your system.... it would be to hard for teams that are losing games....and maybe in that team play some great players....and it would be hard to determine how important that % are...

and it could be missused in many ways....

and this should be a simulation of rl and if a player plays games it does not mean automaticly that he is in a good form...

Not really...
Unless you lose every game with more then 5 goals difference. But then it's logical you lose form...
AND don't forget! Pops can make your form go up as well!