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Subject: [poll] lnegth of the sasson

2020-05-02 16:03:16
i'm agree with you too, we can count : 13 + 14 + 15 + "keep at it is" votes.... I was saying this Firstly in this topic.

But i was just pointing the comment "community want" no season change : that's not true : around 28 % ask for "no change".
It's depend how you read the poll, but we can't say in one voice : the "community dont want" ...
2020-05-02 16:08:24
But it shows why this kind of poll, not what the devs put up, is a better reflection of what the community wants.

It shows the community is open to change, but not extreme changes like the 12 weeks presented to us.

If it's gets made in to a 12 week competition, there will be 71% unhappy managers, in a game which is already struggling
2020-05-02 16:10:16
with 12 teams per league, we can make 13 week seasons, which is more natural as each year has 52 weeks.
only play one round, not home and away...
2020-05-02 16:20:18
Well in my point of view 50% are not against "shorten" the season...

Not so bad for the devs... :-)

But im agree : 12w is actually clearly rejected by a poll of conservatism users (No new teams here).
2020-05-02 17:25:25
Let’s reduce the number of teams in the league to 6 and have a shorter season with an equal number of matches in a week. The first team goes up and the last one drops out of the league. We would definitely get on the dynamic.
2020-05-02 17:39:24
Unless every division had just one league, then you can't have first team goes up and last comes down. In the current system, it would mean the only team safe in a 6mn league would be number 2 (as 1st goes up, 3rd,4th,5th,6th go down).

And then of every division did have one league, Poland would be over 300 divisions long
2020-05-02 20:21:16
Shorter season means less training, meaning players will age faster and it will be harder to get younger players to divine, which will ultimately give an unfair advantage to the existing diviners. Season length should be kept as it is.
2020-05-02 20:23:50
that probably could be fixed with adjustment of youth talent or speed of training or aging but yes i had that concern too
2020-05-02 20:25:07
more than 50% voted 15 weeks/as it is.
(edited)
2020-05-02 22:15:42
It's justa to use a parameter 16/12 and you get faster training by 33%
2020-05-03 00:28:03
yes, but what if I just got a player in youth school who is 16 years old, 32 weeks and good? God knows how old he'll be once he's out, certainly not 18 :D
2020-05-03 00:57:08
Keep it as it is. Or maybe more lengt. If i want a rapid one i play on a smartphone game. But THIS is a real game and slow way is better.
2020-05-03 01:29:03
that would be 32/16=2*12=24 weeks in the new system...
training times would reduce by 33%,

wages, sponsors, junior costs, and subscriptions increase also by 33%
2020-05-03 10:49:38
For sure shorten a season + more competition + managing a clear calendar will never happen if we can't REDUCE group leagues and rounds in all competitions... But does the community want manageable "micro leagues" "micro cups" ? not sure. That's a long road...

But now this topic is about : shorten or not a season.
A clear answer is NOT REALLY. (15, 14, 13 are not really a big step for "shorten")

But :

- It doesnt mean this votes will never change in future.

- It doesn't mean this poll is a source of trust : many new users don't vote and the total of users is weak compared to all active sokker users (like NT votes every season, or like the Devs polls ...)

- We all knows that polls are ever a sort of manipulation... it's all depend on a particular question and options. This poll is a manipulation, like others... But you know what? "manipulation" is always better than zero choices and no discussions. Polls are better than zero polls.
2020-05-03 12:17:48
As posted in the other topic, this voting can just as well represent the opinion of all managers, we don't know. Data can be used by both sides to support their claim/idea/etc

And yes, opinions can change, everyone who voted 12 weeks or faster can feel sorry after less then a season and wanted to vote 'keep as it is' if they had a chance to change the vote.

And polls can be used as manipulation, not are manipulation. The more objective the question is, and the more options you have to vote for, the outcome will be more accurate.
2020-05-03 15:26:55
I can play 2 games per day but I work on web not that is the case for everyone more games short season means fuck up fixtures will cause forfeit games or user will be disappointed not used red carded or healed player from previous match.
This poll is guide is not against new changes but the way they are implemented some how forced to us I have this feeling
Here even missing option more weeks than now I agree I did rush poll that is not good but official poll is not good either reject all do no represent what I vote I vote other but do not have that option