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Subject: [GD] League system - reorganisation
But I think 12-14 weeks there is not much difference.
At the beginning I misunderstood proposals (sorry), but now I understand and I agree.
Why not 12 weeks? in real life the teams also play some games during the weekday. Indeed, it's only to move 2-3 matches and
the season would still be almost 3 real months. I think it would perfect.
At the beginning I misunderstood proposals (sorry), but now I understand and I agree.
Why not 12 weeks? in real life the teams also play some games during the weekday. Indeed, it's only to move 2-3 matches and
the season would still be almost 3 real months. I think it would perfect.
If these changes have effects on my free time I say no, I like slow League system because I don t want to lose much time for being competitive. It's a game and there is also real life to enjoy! :D
1 game per week is enough! i love this game because is simple.
1 game per week is enough! i love this game because is simple.
There's a big difference between 16 and 12. And none of the competitions proposed fit in to the 12 week structure proposed. The matches for the same league randomly go over different days.
Maybe deleting junior matches (It's the most useless). I think it could be possible, or deleting any cup...
That would be the question, they want 12 weeks.
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That would be the question, they want 12 weeks.
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Good to see you around Juytt. I hope you are not too much disapointed to not see yet the implemenration of a woman team in the dev news. Take care, bises
Deleting junior doesnt change anything in their plan, as the current timetable they have up (which doesn't fit it all) doesn't even have youths in it yet.
Yes, I have no issues with them deleting junior matches, but it doesn't fix anything yet
Yes, I have no issues with them deleting junior matches, but it doesn't fix anything yet
becasue... 52/16= 3 season per year...
but 52/12= 4+ season per year...
thy want season pre year...
but 52/12= 4+ season per year...
thy want season pre year...
@achmid and kryminator - short explanation.
Voting will help us decide, but we also read comments and contrproposals - all that combined will help us in final decission.
So if someone didn't found perfect option for him he can get with own proposal on new thread or comment in some existing.
I was not simple possible to makie 10 different proposals and put them into poll.
As i said - we wold like to make season shorter, but we are open for discussion and other options than 12, if it will be a serious problem, but it will be good to find arguments why 12 is worse than for example 14. As we said - any other elements of the game will be adjusted for it and tested, as speed of training, injuries lenght, and so on, so for now you should not be worried about it.
For now one of conclusions is, that most of you would like to have clear info what kind of competition will be played in each day, and thats clear for me.
Voting will help us decide, but we also read comments and contrproposals - all that combined will help us in final decission.
So if someone didn't found perfect option for him he can get with own proposal on new thread or comment in some existing.
I was not simple possible to makie 10 different proposals and put them into poll.
As i said - we wold like to make season shorter, but we are open for discussion and other options than 12, if it will be a serious problem, but it will be good to find arguments why 12 is worse than for example 14. As we said - any other elements of the game will be adjusted for it and tested, as speed of training, injuries lenght, and so on, so for now you should not be worried about it.
For now one of conclusions is, that most of you would like to have clear info what kind of competition will be played in each day, and thats clear for me.
Yes i forget this ! We need more weeks for women champ !!!
If these changes have effects on my free time I say no, I like slow League system because I don t want to lose much time for being competitive. It's a game and there is also real life to enjoy! :D
1 game per week is enough! i love this game because is simple
+1
max two match for week..it's perfect!
1 game per week is enough! i love this game because is simple
+1
max two match for week..it's perfect!
My proposal
Length of the season:
option 1 - 14 weeks (no play offs - only direct promotions)
option 2 - 15 weeks (1 play off game)
option 3 - 16 weeks (2 play off games)
National cup: It would remain the same as today. The number of rounds depends on how many teams are in the country. Currently it varies from 5 in the smallest countries like Uzbekistan to 13 rounds in Poland.
Domestic league: 14 rounds each Sunday. No irregularities.
International league: instead of the International cup there would be International league which would copy the system of Domestic leagues. All clubs would have the chance to compete for being the best in Sokker and there would be no early drop offs like in the cups, so even new users would be entertained for the whole season
1, I think 12 weeks season is too short for most of the users. The poll on the forum has only 130 votes, but only 25% are for 12weeks or shorter season. Plus it will be extremely hard to balance everything as it will have a big impact on every variable in the game.
2, International league give all users the opportunity to compete in one more competition. It would be played with the league system, so even new users who are out of National cup in early rounds, would participate in two offical competitions (Domestic league and International league) for the rest of the season.
3, All competitions should be played at the constant day. Otherwise it would confuse users and they would be more likely to forget to set up a lineup.
4, The voting between the 4 options can lead to misleading interpretation of users' will because it gives either option to vote for 12 weeks season (option 1-3) or to keep the current 16 weeks system (option 4)
5, I am for integrated system of changes. Rather then proposing chaotic changes we should focus on what was working for a long time and make slight adjustments to it. (Keeping the already existing competition systems the same, adding one more competition on the basis of an already existing system, and reducing the length of the season without big intervention to the current league system is one example how to do it)
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Length of the season:
option 1 - 14 weeks (no play offs - only direct promotions)
option 2 - 15 weeks (1 play off game)
option 3 - 16 weeks (2 play off games)
National cup: It would remain the same as today. The number of rounds depends on how many teams are in the country. Currently it varies from 5 in the smallest countries like Uzbekistan to 13 rounds in Poland.
Domestic league: 14 rounds each Sunday. No irregularities.
International league: instead of the International cup there would be International league which would copy the system of Domestic leagues. All clubs would have the chance to compete for being the best in Sokker and there would be no early drop offs like in the cups, so even new users would be entertained for the whole season
1, I think 12 weeks season is too short for most of the users. The poll on the forum has only 130 votes, but only 25% are for 12weeks or shorter season. Plus it will be extremely hard to balance everything as it will have a big impact on every variable in the game.
2, International league give all users the opportunity to compete in one more competition. It would be played with the league system, so even new users who are out of National cup in early rounds, would participate in two offical competitions (Domestic league and International league) for the rest of the season.
3, All competitions should be played at the constant day. Otherwise it would confuse users and they would be more likely to forget to set up a lineup.
4, The voting between the 4 options can lead to misleading interpretation of users' will because it gives either option to vote for 12 weeks season (option 1-3) or to keep the current 16 weeks system (option 4)
5, I am for integrated system of changes. Rather then proposing chaotic changes we should focus on what was working for a long time and make slight adjustments to it. (Keeping the already existing competition systems the same, adding one more competition on the basis of an already existing system, and reducing the length of the season without big intervention to the current league system is one example how to do it)
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"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it" - Mark Twain.
I'll explained for everybody:
75% of the Sokker users don't want shorter season but it's doesnt matter for them. They already decide, your votes doesn't mean anything.
Even the voting section can be replaced ;).
I'll explained for everybody:
75% of the Sokker users don't want shorter season but it's doesnt matter for them. They already decide, your votes doesn't mean anything.
Even the voting section can be replaced ;).
I agree maximal with you.
Only one little thing: I think that it would be better to change the days for National Cup and International Leauge, because in the cup you can drop out very early and after that only at weekends would we have official matches, so better would be have fix international matches on wednesday in the whole season.
Until now you summarized the best way and with the best words and descriptions what I was thinking, too. Thank you!
Only one little thing: I think that it would be better to change the days for National Cup and International Leauge, because in the cup you can drop out very early and after that only at weekends would we have official matches, so better would be have fix international matches on wednesday in the whole season.
Until now you summarized the best way and with the best words and descriptions what I was thinking, too. Thank you!
I see one problem only: those team with no play-offs will be 2 weeks without competitive matches. I think it's too much time. They should be played in one week (1 turn) or even removed at all