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Subject: [GD] League system - reorganisation
I see one problem only: those team with no play-offs will be 2 weeks without competitive matches. I think it's too much time. They should be played in one week (1 turn) or even removed at all
I do not see why training maches should have less training if you have limt for max training per week exist it should be achieved from 2 games of any type
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Guys, there are lot of questions about lenght of the season, i will try to explain it for you one more time.
Current proposals (3 options) are based on the same time frame. From our perspecite its most important question for now, to decide how many games per week we play, and what competitions we should play. Number of weeks is rather a result of it.
Number of games per week and list of competitions are crucial, as a starting point for our work. Try to use that context.
but you can't build a house starting from the roof.
The training method and mechanics are the key choice. Then you can discuss calendars and matches knowing the implications
Current proposals (3 options) are based on the same time frame. From our perspecite its most important question for now, to decide how many games per week we play, and what competitions we should play. Number of weeks is rather a result of it.
Number of games per week and list of competitions are crucial, as a starting point for our work. Try to use that context.
but you can't build a house starting from the roof.
The training method and mechanics are the key choice. Then you can discuss calendars and matches knowing the implications
We know implications, and as we mentioned in Dev Diary - training will be adjusted for our proposition, posted in upcoming weeks. For now we want to talk about most exciting seasonal schedule, that is most importnat part, not the roof. Finally you should training your players to win games and competitions, not play games, to train your players. So, it's most important to start here.
Then we will talk with you about training, and it's already designed to fit into ideas about leagues reorganisation.
Then we will talk with you about training, and it's already designed to fit into ideas about leagues reorganisation.
Finally you should training your players to win games and competitions, not play games, to train your players.
Totally agree
Totally agree
Finally you should training your players to win games and competitions, not play games, to train your players.
I disagree that this will make the game better. You are going to lose a big part of the fun IMHO.
I disagree that this will make the game better. You are going to lose a big part of the fun IMHO.
Is it fun to play games to train? I think is the biggest bug of the game.
I always need to sacrifice cup to train and that's boring.
If you have the same limits to train as now, but you can be competitive is much more fun and nobody's advantage.
I'm going to train the same players in the same way, the difference is that I can compete in other tournaments.
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I always need to sacrifice cup to train and that's boring.
If you have the same limits to train as now, but you can be competitive is much more fun and nobody's advantage.
I'm going to train the same players in the same way, the difference is that I can compete in other tournaments.
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From our perspecite its most important question for now, to decide how many games per week we play, and what competitions we should play. Number of weeks is rather a result of it.
I think perfect number is 2+1 games per week as now: 1 league match in sunday, 1 national cup match or friendly +1 champions match.
2 games per week, as normal, are ok.
3 games with champions are ok, but not every weeks.... 3 games per weeks every weeks i think are too much but we can try to get used to it.
4 games per week is completely another game, definetely too much, a second job, not a game :-P
I thinks Slavista proposal is a good starting point, I don't know if with international leagues or cups. but 3 games per week max an 14-15 weeks season (good compromise)
IMHO.
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I think perfect number is 2+1 games per week as now: 1 league match in sunday, 1 national cup match or friendly +1 champions match.
2 games per week, as normal, are ok.
3 games with champions are ok, but not every weeks.... 3 games per weeks every weeks i think are too much but we can try to get used to it.
4 games per week is completely another game, definetely too much, a second job, not a game :-P
I thinks Slavista proposal is a good starting point, I don't know if with international leagues or cups. but 3 games per week max an 14-15 weeks season (good compromise)
IMHO.
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opinions.
IMHO the fun is:
every time you need to do choices,
every time you need to let something to gain something else
every time you need to wait long seasons for a result
if you give me everything when I want I will soon lose interest.
IMHO the fun is:
every time you need to do choices,
every time you need to let something to gain something else
every time you need to wait long seasons for a result
if you give me everything when I want I will soon lose interest.
Exactly, some users are so used to this old system, they think nothing else can work for them...
I always need to sacrifice cup to train and that's boring.
If you have the same limits to train as now, but you can be competitive is much more fun and nobody's advantage.
I'm going to train the same players in the same way, the difference is that I can compete in other tournaments.
+1
If you have the same limits to train as now, but you can be competitive is much more fun and nobody's advantage.
I'm going to train the same players in the same way, the difference is that I can compete in other tournaments.
+1
I think I understand what You mean, but I am sure that
every time you need to wait long seasons for a result
will not change.
every time you need to do choices,
every time you need to let something to gain something else
You would still be doing choices but those will be only training choices. The match order choices You will have to do will be related to, well, matches, not training. Even now, they are kind of challenging, but also stupid because You have to play your defenders with MID order all season long if You want to raise their passing and playmaking. This is stupid and became more annoying than challenging and this is just the example, not the only combination You can do. I am sure that the challenge part of juggling with match orders might be transferred to some other area of the game.
Anyway that's just my thoughts. I don't know what exactly devs are planning regarding training.
every time you need to wait long seasons for a result
will not change.
every time you need to do choices,
every time you need to let something to gain something else
You would still be doing choices but those will be only training choices. The match order choices You will have to do will be related to, well, matches, not training. Even now, they are kind of challenging, but also stupid because You have to play your defenders with MID order all season long if You want to raise their passing and playmaking. This is stupid and became more annoying than challenging and this is just the example, not the only combination You can do. I am sure that the challenge part of juggling with match orders might be transferred to some other area of the game.
Anyway that's just my thoughts. I don't know what exactly devs are planning regarding training.
I feel, the 3.option the worst. Too much match in a week. Not everybody would like to play with the game in th all week, we go to work and so forth...
2 match in the playoffs... I feel that is worthless. So many teams don't play playoffs.
Well, see the weeks. There 2 weeks, what is not so active. The 15, and the 00. Maybe 14 weeks would be optimal.
The actual system with 16 weeks good for me. Voting option could be good for the actual system.
We can play the week 12-13 matches in one week. THe week 14 and playoffs match could be in one week.
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2 match in the playoffs... I feel that is worthless. So many teams don't play playoffs.
Well, see the weeks. There 2 weeks, what is not so active. The 15, and the 00. Maybe 14 weeks would be optimal.
The actual system with 16 weeks good for me. Voting option could be good for the actual system.
We can play the week 12-13 matches in one week. THe week 14 and playoffs match could be in one week.
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As most users don't like 12-week season, I would suggest this 14-week system to satisfy all parties:
- Keep league matches only on sunday
- Expand International Cup enough to cover the whole season - so we will play more matches per week (3) as DEVs want
- National Cup starts at Week 2
- Playoff matches on wednesday at Week 1 so:
Week 14 Sunday - 14th round
Week 1 Wednesday - Playoff
Somewhere at Week 1 - International Cup starts
Week 1 Sunday - 1st round
Week 2 Wednesday - National Cup starts
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- Keep league matches only on sunday
- Expand International Cup enough to cover the whole season - so we will play more matches per week (3) as DEVs want
- National Cup starts at Week 2
- Playoff matches on wednesday at Week 1 so:
Week 14 Sunday - 14th round
Week 1 Wednesday - Playoff
Somewhere at Week 1 - International Cup starts
Week 1 Sunday - 1st round
Week 2 Wednesday - National Cup starts
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im not for any of options but if i have chose between same day per competition or confusing fixture i will chose 3 and increase to 12 teams its not so bad either but yes its too much per week with youth game and NT games will be psychically impossible to prepare for games properly you will just load old tactics and line ups . rejecting all of course is not possible so adding few more weeks and eliminating 3 games per week will be good for all .
we always sate new users and especially for them making new tactics will be super hard
we always sate new users and especially for them making new tactics will be super hard