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Subject: [GD] 2D vs. 3D
The problem right now is that both 2D and 3D are in flash. So both need to be reworked. My guess is that Raul and the other DEVs are trying to find our which one to update first?
If that is the case, my opinion is that they should start with 2D, which currently offers more to the game and also is way more easier to redo to HTML5.
Whatever they decide to do first they surely can leave the other available in flash till they get to it after the huge amount of work they need to do all around sokker improvements :-).
If that is the case, my opinion is that they should start with 2D, which currently offers more to the game and also is way more easier to redo to HTML5.
Whatever they decide to do first they surely can leave the other available in flash till they get to it after the huge amount of work they need to do all around sokker improvements :-).
I use to see matches in 3D. But I have to make some changes on the settings in order to get a similar view as in 2D viewer. This is:
-Change camera type to line (first icon on right top)
-Camera zoom to 70%
-Camera height to 70 %
-Fast Forward: +1
Of course, this is not enough and sometimes the ball goes out of view.
2d viewer is perfect to see how tactics are deployed on the field. When I want to build a tactic I need to see matches in 2D.
Graphics are better in 3D, but still need to improved.
-Change camera type to line (first icon on right top)
-Camera zoom to 70%
-Camera height to 70 %
-Fast Forward: +1
Of course, this is not enough and sometimes the ball goes out of view.
2d viewer is perfect to see how tactics are deployed on the field. When I want to build a tactic I need to see matches in 2D.
Graphics are better in 3D, but still need to improved.
2D, simple because of tactics. And tactics is what makes sokker the best football game in internet.
Btw, with 3D my old pc cannot show a fluent match.
Btw-2 : I get really scared to see a question like this.... are the developers not aware of the strengths of sokker?
If not, here, once again the strengths:
Tactic, training, time management
(time management = one login per week can be enought)
I have already read by many users on the german forum, that if more times login per week are needed, they will quit.
Btw, with 3D my old pc cannot show a fluent match.
Btw-2 : I get really scared to see a question like this.... are the developers not aware of the strengths of sokker?
If not, here, once again the strengths:
Tactic, training, time management
(time management = one login per week can be enought)
I have already read by many users on the german forum, that if more times login per week are needed, they will quit.
The problem right now is that both 2D and 3D are in flash. So both need to be reworked. My guess is that Raul and the other DEVs are trying to find our which one to update first?
If that is the case, my opinion is that they should start with 2D, which currently offers more to the game and also is way more easier to redo to HTML5.
Well, yes... and no ;)
Yep, we need some quick solution and we proceed now with 2D viewer, it will be just translated from flash, and will stay mostly the same.
From the other hand we starting our work with new viewer, and there is a possibility, to use one engine for both views (and it will be easier to develop then) - one as static one, with good tactic overwiew, and second more dynamic with different cameras. So currently we rather need to understand what needs both types of views address, to make sure we will answer both in final output.
For me main conclusions from your discussion is - we need some static view to "strategic" part of game (to make sure how your tactic works, like in the chess), and 3D is nice to have, rather like some lifestyle extention, but it need to have much better graphic than current one (we are not surprised with that ;))
We also like highlights idea from Slavista - we will try to develop something like that.
If that is the case, my opinion is that they should start with 2D, which currently offers more to the game and also is way more easier to redo to HTML5.
Well, yes... and no ;)
Yep, we need some quick solution and we proceed now with 2D viewer, it will be just translated from flash, and will stay mostly the same.
From the other hand we starting our work with new viewer, and there is a possibility, to use one engine for both views (and it will be easier to develop then) - one as static one, with good tactic overwiew, and second more dynamic with different cameras. So currently we rather need to understand what needs both types of views address, to make sure we will answer both in final output.
For me main conclusions from your discussion is - we need some static view to "strategic" part of game (to make sure how your tactic works, like in the chess), and 3D is nice to have, rather like some lifestyle extention, but it need to have much better graphic than current one (we are not surprised with that ;))
We also like highlights idea from Slavista - we will try to develop something like that.
"we proceed now with 2D viewer"
"we starting our work with new viewer, and there is a possibility..."
"We also like highlights idea from Slavista - we will try to develop something like that. "
Great news today....
"we starting our work with new viewer, and there is a possibility..."
"We also like highlights idea from Slavista - we will try to develop something like that. "
Great news today....
"We also like highlights idea from Slavista - we will try to develop something like that. "
Does it means the pitch will look like a chess board and the players like chess pieces ?
Does it means the pitch will look like a chess board and the players like chess pieces ?
haha, no ;) it's from another thread - to make some option like "watch only goals / watch only key situations".
And to give a chance to scroll game for particular moment you want.
And to give a chance to scroll game for particular moment you want.
@Damien2a i will visit french forums just because of you like your sense of humor :)
also what would be great is some kind of rewind/replay with minutes marker....if you want to see one specific event in a game you need to play whole game again....
