Subject: [GD] 2D vs. 3D

The voiice of wisdom.
We need more of you in this forum Charles Hill.

2-D first and after that ... 3d + Smelling effect :-)

2D forever.

3D engine (that can serve as 2D top view too) is theoretically a gain, two-in-one. But practically, (good looking) 3D need much works in animations and design and use more cpu and memory on terminal users, and for many... "only 2D" users.

Sorry to insist, but keeping things "realistic" should driven the next changes.

Sokker spend so much time to make things more "attractive" in the last iteration (3D, player avatars...) and for what a result ^^
User who want to keep 3D, ask for better attractive 3D.
Can your team invest in art direction and designers? That 's a common programmers dream to think we can solve good looking game with just a graphic engine and no art and design knowledges professionals.

I can't really understand the need for 3d.
I read about the need for making a "good looking game", and I disagree.

Sokker will never be played for this. That's not the kind of engagement the game need.

Sokker need to put on display its qualities first of all.
These qualities are: the match-engine, the editor, the solution to simulate the two phases of the game, the matching skills->behavior on the field,...

All this must be immediately visible and "measurable" by the managers.
All this is already possible with the current 2d.

Maybe you can make a 3d with these requirements, but it is a huge effort to correct an already solved problem ...

but it is a huge effort to correct an already solved problem ...

So, why no new users are coming?

Some of you should check your glasses.

This is a game with great graphics, from a phone! See how good the menus and animations look?



Now come and tell me with a straight face that sokker looks great.

Don't waste your time discussing obvious things xD.

not impressed at all those games can get your attention for day or too and thats it
and here quetsion is 2d viewer or 3D viewer not the UI interface of sokker

Well... we all are impressed with the sokker graphics for decades... Meuh
New users are fed up with the graphics of sokker in 10 minutes.
Thinking nothing should change in graphics is like playing this game on a commodore 64!
Nostalgics are fun for old(er) users, but new users won't ever be impressed...

yeah and next complain will be to go back to the old skin because devs lost too much time improving it

And maybe also to have one match per month because once a week is too quick.

At the end we will end end up playing on a game boy, fortunately I kept mine since 1990 !

@el pupe : I watch only in 3D and I don't think I am the only one, so you see.. there is a need...
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Do not confuse Desktop/Android application with web based application.

Exactly, but I would say in less than 10minutes xD. We can check it with new users(they don't exist). It's impossible with modern games to give a chance to sokker seeing it externally.

Damien2a:
Haha totally true. Fortunately devs know how the new world works and they're investing in it.
Some users think that people come doing nothing, and they don't see that sokker is loosing all users.

Damien2a:
Haha totally true. Fortunately devs know how the new world works and they're investing in it.

with last major update before few years i doubt that was exactly the case but i still use old skin and im happy with it :)

i still use old skin

Ok this explains everything ;)

I use It to see talents, because "new skin" doesn't work well. Anyway I prefer new interface, and above all you can't present It to new users.

i do not say that i hundred times said new UX needed and topic is not about that but my friend @Damien2a likes to tease me every where so i suggest mods to do their job