Subject: [GD] Match Engine

This topic has to exist.
I hate it that this seems to be the last thing on the list for development, even though it is the most important in my opinion.

I am having a great season, but it is very unsatisfying, and all because of the ME.
Yesterday's game... I had to shut it down at the half time. And when you look at the teams ant the stats, it should have been an amazing game. But it was a mess. Things that make no sense just keep happening and there is hardly any joy in watching it.

The list of issues is huge:
- goalkeepers not catching the ball vs a striker,
- players sometimes not running for the ball,
- strikers passing the ball back when they are in front of the goal,
- ball bouncing off of players with insane angles etc.

I don't know how, but somehow this ME is giving somewhat "normal" results.
I am guessing that they were doing tests, adjusting some random parameters, and then when it gave decent results they just left it like that. They didn't break the game, but the engine remained broken.

Making tactics and watching them execute are the reasons why I got hooked to sokker.
This ME is the reason why I had a long period of inactivity and almost stopped playing.

While i agree that fix the ME is important, but until we get rid of flash this has to wait.

I wish that it is only flash.

ME is gonna wait much longer than that :/

The entire game needs an update... The match viewer needs a complete new structure, so it's by far the most complex thing they need to do AFTER the UX...
Patience... I feel your pain, but you need to hold on for a while...

The comment is buried somewhere, I can't find it, but Raul basically said that they think that the engine is okay.
He can correct me if I am wrong, but that was my impression.

They are gonna work on it a little, since they promised more players on the bench, but I don't think that they are planning on improving the gameplay.

@raul said that the current changes are not focused on ME. So maybe they will touch it at some point but definitely not now.

I know what you want to say, I remember too...

He actually said... The match viewer and ME works fine, as in, there are no problems in that give match errors.
It's not the first priority... First things first as they say :-)
You're absolutely right when you say something needs to happen with the ME, but it has to wait for the moment...

Guess I am disappointed that the moment is gonna be quite a moment.

If you think about it, it is gonna take at least a year before they make any ME improvements, if we are lucky.

Years of neglect created a lot of work.

I saw quoted match. Have either one of you considered your aggressive tactics?

Pogledao sam vam meč. Da li ste razmišljali da promenite taktike?

Aggressive tactics were supposed to make this match great.

No tactic is gonna fix player not running after the ball for example.

Here is a completely normal scenario (I saw it many times):
The ball lands close to the goalkeeper. He is the closest one to the ball.
Second closest is a defender with superdivine.
Third closest is an opponent's striker.

Now, since the goalkeepers are slowed down in the match, the striker runs and covers 4x greater distance than the goalkeeper, and gets the ball.
What was that defender with superdivine pace doing? Just chilling, GK got this covered :)

Goalkeepers should be more active during the match. When my team is attacking he can stand on the edge of the penalty area and he can move as the situation on the pitch changes and eventually be ready to reach the ball if the threat of break rises. In the current ME he just stands on the goal line for the entire game and there is no teamwork between him and the defenders. Instead of 11 players on each side, there are 10 players plus a dummy.


It is pity that with all those changes planned, ME updates will be postponed. There is so much room for improvement.

some rules should be updated according modern soccer rules noticed that gk can catch the ball after side throw and back pass. Some offside improvements in visualization and modern terms of offside there is lots of things...

This topic has to exist.

The topic already exist with a nice resume (littlefish)

Leave this here, for the view of devs.

I have another problem of actual ME, not related here, but very important.
We have situations when a player, without any opponent in his area got injury.
I don't know, if the ball shooted him, he shooted on the grass, or just a terrible wind makes that player to be out of match, we just can see a red cross above player...
For me is'nt real to have injury without players getting contact and i think, devs can make something to fix this bug of ME or viewer.

injuries could happen with previous contact, nothing outrageous.

The problem is that injuries seems to be mostly random and unpredictable, we dont even now how to prevent injuries, how judging fragile players, there's no clue. The only way to prevent injuries is to keep our payers on bench or quickly subs few valuable players (but they loose training...). Injuries are unmanageable, but that's really not a M.E specific problem.

one sidenote to injuries:

I play corner tactics to avoid injuries. Young player that is injured for +25 days in friendly match lose 3 trainings and placing him with slight injury so he can get the first training after 4 weeks leads to higher risk of another injury. With my most precious youngsters this would mean that I could lose on their market price much more than I would ever lose on money from sponsors and tickets no matter what changes Devs would do.