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Subject: [change] Separate Card Record for Cup and League
To put it in simple terms, if you are using your first squad in the league and one of the players gets a red card, you can use him again in the next round of the league, zero management required.
I thought that it is obvious from this, sorry for not explaining it to you.
So, with separate records, if a player gets a red card in the league, and you wouldn't be able to use him in the next round of the league so you would have to manage without him.
If you are gonna post replies, can you actually answer some questions.
I am puzzled with one of your previous comments, the one I marked with green and red text, what was the point of that?
Instead of that, you do the same thing again.
We already know it doesn't increase the managment needed, and you have complained about the ME being too luck based, yet you bring in an idea that is purely luck based.
YOUR OPINION. NOT REALLY MY OPINION, BUT LETS SAY THAT IT IS.
What is this, dude? You are imagining some opinion of mine, from a different topic, and then applying it in some parallel universe where you are absolutely right. Is this, you beating arguments?
So explain how this actually improves the game. If you can't do that, then why is it necessary?
Here is a few:
- As sviktorov already pointed out, it wouldn't punish cup competitors via lost training.
- It wouldn't create absurd situations that I am currently facing.
- It would give a better fighting chance to weak teams, when the strong opponent is saving some players for the next round (AKA management).
- It is unfair that your cup opponent, who has nothing to do with your league, benefits from something that happened in the league (a card). That wouldn't happen anymore.
I thought that it is obvious from this, sorry for not explaining it to you.
So, with separate records, if a player gets a red card in the league, and you wouldn't be able to use him in the next round of the league so you would have to manage without him.
If you are gonna post replies, can you actually answer some questions.
I am puzzled with one of your previous comments, the one I marked with green and red text, what was the point of that?
Instead of that, you do the same thing again.
We already know it doesn't increase the managment needed, and you have complained about the ME being too luck based, yet you bring in an idea that is purely luck based.
YOUR OPINION. NOT REALLY MY OPINION, BUT LETS SAY THAT IT IS.
What is this, dude? You are imagining some opinion of mine, from a different topic, and then applying it in some parallel universe where you are absolutely right. Is this, you beating arguments?
So explain how this actually improves the game. If you can't do that, then why is it necessary?
Here is a few:
- As sviktorov already pointed out, it wouldn't punish cup competitors via lost training.
- It wouldn't create absurd situations that I am currently facing.
- It would give a better fighting chance to weak teams, when the strong opponent is saving some players for the next round (AKA management).
- It is unfair that your cup opponent, who has nothing to do with your league, benefits from something that happened in the league (a card). That wouldn't happen anymore.
Here is a few:
- As sviktorov already pointed out, it wouldn't punish cup competitors via lost training. - but this just moves who doesn't get training, so is of very little benefit, yet takes away from the ability to manage players
- It wouldn't create absurd situations that I am currently facing. - so basically you poorly managed the current system and want it changed, but come a "new" system you will complain when you lose someone early in the 1/8 final and can't use him again until the 1/2 final, effectively losing two weeks of training/playing with them
- It would give a better fighting chance to weak teams, when the strong opponent is saving some players for the next round (AKA management). - it would actually cut weak teams runs short because they would be forced to play the card lottery repeatedly each week and therefore lose more players without being able to just miss a league match
- It is unfair that your cup opponent, who has nothing to do with your league, benefits from something that happened in the league (a card). - this could happen in the opposite direction as well, and if everyone has the same limitation there, does that not make it fair again? Do you also want injuries that occur in the league to not affect cup matches? Because this would be unfair too.
Seems like you aren't really selling this well. You are just removing one set of "problems" and replacing them with a new set, but t the same time, reducing the amount of good management requirement in the game, so just trying to make the game more simple for you own benefit, as you are unable to manage your cards with the current system
for me cards should be valid only for the game :) then cleared . But i know the respond so i will offer something else since we have so many games per week the punishment to be after 2 red cards and after 4 yellow something like this ...
I am not selling this at all, I am not you, Achmid, I am not obsessed with my ideas, I can accept the opinion of the majority. Also, I am not here for the idea anymore, just to expose what kind of a person you are, what tactics you use, how you try to discredit someone who doesn't agree with you, how delusional you are, what your motivations are. "Like my idea and I am gonna like yours," is that how you want this to work?
Show us with good arguments that the idea is bad, stop making up things like "more luck than management" when you have actually described the situation where management skill would be tested IN YOUR FIRST COMMENT.
Now you are focusing on a short list that I made in 1 minute, and only because you THINK you have good arguments. What about all the other things? You are leaving many questions ignored.
Slow down the delusion, please.
I am a bad manager for making sure that my first squad is HEALTHY FOR THE FINAL BEFORE THE SEMI-FINALS? Only someone delusional and spiteful as you can call that bad management.
And accusing me that I will complain in the future? That is rich coming from you. You are gonna talk about complaining. Delusion does wonders, you already showed how much you project your behavior when accusing others, so I know where this accusation is coming from.
And about my favorite projection from you, have the last comment, be my guest, we all know how much you like that :)
Show us with good arguments that the idea is bad, stop making up things like "more luck than management" when you have actually described the situation where management skill would be tested IN YOUR FIRST COMMENT.
Now you are focusing on a short list that I made in 1 minute, and only because you THINK you have good arguments. What about all the other things? You are leaving many questions ignored.
Slow down the delusion, please.
I am a bad manager for making sure that my first squad is HEALTHY FOR THE FINAL BEFORE THE SEMI-FINALS? Only someone delusional and spiteful as you can call that bad management.
And accusing me that I will complain in the future? That is rich coming from you. You are gonna talk about complaining. Delusion does wonders, you already showed how much you project your behavior when accusing others, so I know where this accusation is coming from.
And about my favorite projection from you, have the last comment, be my guest, we all know how much you like that :)
+1, Main idea,
Is ilogical the actually way, the cards should be get separate like ocurrs for National Teams
Is ilogical the actually way, the cards should be get separate like ocurrs for National Teams
Ok guys... The opinions are out, leave it at that and trust the devs for making rational decisions in this matter.
@ Achmid: I was just pointing out, with a metafor, that cup and league are as different as you, working at work and working at home. So it's as illogical as getting fired at your work, when you've done a bad sink fixing at home f.e.
Cup and League... 2 different things, so keep the cards to their own series...
@ Achmid: I was just pointing out, with a metafor, that cup and league are as different as you, working at work and working at home. So it's as illogical as getting fired at your work, when you've done a bad sink fixing at home f.e.
Cup and League... 2 different things, so keep the cards to their own series...
I would agree if there were more cards per match, but the actual number of them is ridicoulous.
Thanks for the clarification, I was very confused that it was even a metaphor. Was kind of hoping there was a funny story or saying behind it all
" I am not obsessed with my ideas, I can accept the opinion of the majority" - well we have seen this is not true many times, especially with many pages of obsessive talk over many threads :D
"Show us with good arguments that the idea is bad, stop making up things like "more luck than management"" - I have responded logically, and to each point, which shows more thought and insight than anything you have ever pointed out, often just stating something that has already been shown to not be true. Also management is more important, and I have shown that this change you want, reduces the management required.
"Like my idea and I am gonna like yours," - No this is how you THINK I respond, which is why you made it a point, to point out that Sviktorov had an opinion, when in fact, it is not how I think, but how you do, and why I am able to disagree with Sviktorov despite the fact we have agreed on some other ideas. That's called a healthy discussion, not your, attack every time you see the name Achmid
"Now you are focusing on a short list that I made in 1 minute" - It is literally the only arguments you have put forward toward this idea. I asked why it would make it better, you told me why, and I told you why those ideas actually don't work this way. If you don't want to spend more time fleshing it out and pointing it out step by step, like you constantly ask me to do, then that is on you, not me.
"And accusing me that I will complain in the future? " - You have multiple posts complaining about the role of luck in the game, especially through the ME. So if you bring in this, and make luck more important, I'm sure the complaints will come. Maybe not now I have put the spotlight on you, but it would fit in with your MO
"Show us with good arguments that the idea is bad, stop making up things like "more luck than management"" - I have responded logically, and to each point, which shows more thought and insight than anything you have ever pointed out, often just stating something that has already been shown to not be true. Also management is more important, and I have shown that this change you want, reduces the management required.
"Like my idea and I am gonna like yours," - No this is how you THINK I respond, which is why you made it a point, to point out that Sviktorov had an opinion, when in fact, it is not how I think, but how you do, and why I am able to disagree with Sviktorov despite the fact we have agreed on some other ideas. That's called a healthy discussion, not your, attack every time you see the name Achmid
"Now you are focusing on a short list that I made in 1 minute" - It is literally the only arguments you have put forward toward this idea. I asked why it would make it better, you told me why, and I told you why those ideas actually don't work this way. If you don't want to spend more time fleshing it out and pointing it out step by step, like you constantly ask me to do, then that is on you, not me.
"And accusing me that I will complain in the future? " - You have multiple posts complaining about the role of luck in the game, especially through the ME. So if you bring in this, and make luck more important, I'm sure the complaints will come. Maybe not now I have put the spotlight on you, but it would fit in with your MO
I would agree if there were more cards per match, but the actual number of them is ridicoulous.
That's a good point. They are not many fouls to begin with.
For the league, I am not sure that you need more cards. You are gonna have 2 league matches a week.
For the cup, there is a problem with the idea: Cup yellow cards might become meaningless.
Maybe cards shouldn't be impactful in the cup.
Maybe a different rule for the cup, 2 yellow cards in different matches make a red (3 in the league). This might be unnecessary complication.
@everyone, sorry for feeding the troll, my bad, I should know better than to argue with a person who accuses devs of manipulating the polls when his idea doesn't pass. I'll try to be better.
That's a good point. They are not many fouls to begin with.
For the league, I am not sure that you need more cards. You are gonna have 2 league matches a week.
For the cup, there is a problem with the idea: Cup yellow cards might become meaningless.
Maybe cards shouldn't be impactful in the cup.
Maybe a different rule for the cup, 2 yellow cards in different matches make a red (3 in the league). This might be unnecessary complication.
@everyone, sorry for feeding the troll, my bad, I should know better than to argue with a person who accuses devs of manipulating the polls when his idea doesn't pass. I'll try to be better.
@everyone, sorry for feeding the troll, my bad, I should know better than to argue with a person who accuses devs of manipulating the polls when his idea doesn't pass. I'll try to be better.
LOL that's ok, we understand. After all, you would know one after making sure another thread got even more people to look at it, when your goal was the opposite, extending it by another 4 pages yourself
LOL that's ok, we understand. After all, you would know one after making sure another thread got even more people to look at it, when your goal was the opposite, extending it by another 4 pages yourself
I'm going to end the discussion here...
James and Achmid... point taken, please stop this pointless discussion as non of both have anything more constructive to ad to your opinions whom are pointed out numerous times now...
Give others the chance to react, keep the opinions briefly and avoid forum debacles like these. No one's benefitted from this...And if you still want to discuss further on, you can do that in private...
James and Achmid... point taken, please stop this pointless discussion as non of both have anything more constructive to ad to your opinions whom are pointed out numerous times now...
Give others the chance to react, keep the opinions briefly and avoid forum debacles like these. No one's benefitted from this...And if you still want to discuss further on, you can do that in private...
