Subject: [Idea] Keep training history

Would it be a good idea to keep the traning history of players when the players change teams (club)?
This will mean that managers with PLUS membership would right away be able to see the traning history and talent of players that they buy!
Of course a lot of non-PLUS managers will vote "No", but let's be objective and think about the good of the game and not personal interests (I know it's hard)!
Tululu!
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I vote no for the reason you exposed. Sorry :-)

Training history is already a pay to win feature, not a confort addition. So we should not improve the game in that way again. But maybe Devs will vote yes :-)

Off course we have (until now) non official apps to keep track of our players, we can share the progression too with copy/paste, but data could be a fake, like a « plus » screenshot. In that case we are « equal ».

I know what you mean, but I disagree!
I don't believe that seeing the traning progress is a "pay to win" feature ! As you well know non-PLUS managers track the training progress also, just with the help of external software! And sokker.org is not forbidding this!
Having the possibility to see the traning progress history of a player, as a PLUS member, after the player has been sold or bought better said, will not change anything for the non-PLUS members.
As you said yourself, people still share this data. Having it implemented by the developers into the game directly will just make things easier! O top of this there will be one more reason to buy PLUS and support the development of the game!
One downside will be that the surprise element will be lost!
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I'm for this when you buy player you own him so you own his subskills and is good to have info. Everything that helps people to train better is +1 for me . Everything that helps traders is -1 so this one definitely +1

Let's say you buy cheap young player from TL, previous owner won't give you info about his talent (he doesn't reply to your messages). Let's say this player has terrible talent.

non-plus manager: Trains him, wastes training spot for few weeks to see that this player is worthless.
plus manager: Sees his talent immediately in his previous training reports and knows it's not worth to train him, can immediately fire him, training spot is not wasted.

Don't you see it's "pay to win"?
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If you cant track the training you miss essential thing to manage and improve a team in sokker, it’s only available for plus ingame. Thats why I call this a pay to win feature. Without external app, most of teams should have quit the game ! it’s not an excuse.

Let me rewrite the question : if history training was a core feature (not only for plus) It would be fine for me to add « share the history » feature for premium member. As well « keep tracking more weeks, and more data «  for Plus premium, I’m ok. But that’s not the case.

Without the fan community effort and external tool, sokker would have died long ago ! We should never forget this before »improving » premium features.

I’m also not against a plus premium model, during years I paid for much more money to sokker than any other AAA games. But I don’t want to pay anymore to support for all the no update during years, and never again for pay to win features because WE needs free users too.

Big advantage for plus users.

-1

Good ideia, still -1 for the pay to win thing.

So let's make it feature for all...

Completely agree with you

"So let's make it feature for all..."
I have nothing against it , but it's not up to me!
There has to be some difference between PLUS and non-PLUS members... otherwise the motivation to buy PLUS will be even less or lost!
As I said, this idea has advantages and disadvantages! You are all right to some degree, and the main thing is to see whether it has more advantages than disadvantages!
My heart is also divided in two... but I thought if we brain storm the crap out of it something positive might come out!

i pay plus since day one so, to be honest I do not know what is to not have one. if you like a game i always think you should pay. Plus here is the cheapest for that kind of game..

+1 but with an important side rule...

Only for owned players! So once you bought him, you can see his training history. Not before.
And then also only for + users...

Exactly! This was my thought, but a lot of "second world" managers ( :-))) sorry but I couldn't help myself!) worry and worn that this will be unfair.... they are not completely wrong. The element of surprise, concerning the talent of a player, will be lost... for the PLUS managers (which will also give them an advantage)!... maybe a compromise will be found.
PS: TALENT might have played a big role in the depopularization of the game! A lot of users might not have understood correctly how it works or they didn't managed this aspect of the game correctly!
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Only for owned players! So once you bought him, you can see his training history. Not before.
And then also only for + users...

In this case, yes, +1.

+999999999999999999