Subject: [change] Junior Skills

I think that all juniors should have higher minimum pace level, "solid[8]" for example. And its maximum should be higher than "excellent[10]" or 10.5, whatever, something like "incredible [13]". Stamina could be higher too. Maybe increasing pace of all juniors, the lack of skill will be lower in the future. I'm thinking of that because most players will lost 30+ trainings in their whole carrers and 17 is not the maximum level in this game, 17.99 is, so... there's no problem in having some 17s.

Each weeks I ve got absurd toss, like 17y tragic 6 weeks : there not even a chance to get any descent level at the end.

At least,, just constraining randomness to a minimum is not a hard work for the Devs, easy to fix.

If Devs think there s too much skilled juniors, for sure we can just point out that the usual market price when a junior goes out of school is under 1k euro.

The minimum price should be the wage, because you still have to pay involuntarily:(
This has bothered me for years grmbl
For a good 6 seasons or more I haven't gotten one over well and when he was on this skill the UPs went very leisurely:(
most of the time the 16-year-olds are already 17 or more when they come out of school. this drastically reduces the chance of selling a 16-year-old well skilled.

Few weeks only coming 5-6 players they all tragic - hopeless

I just wrote that "it makes no sense that tragic 18yo with 8 days to promote wants to train football.
He can't even walk and should have been forbidden to even think about sports at the age of 9. "

There must be some logic to their skills, is it a minimum or a maximum (I think both) to make 19yo players closer to reality.

The minimum price should be the wage, because you still have to pay involuntarily:(

It doesn’t matter, most of juniors are not valuable on market because of their skills and because there’s a huge offer of unskilled juniors.

Right. But before fixing a maximum (Which requires more debate) it’s sooooo easy in term of programming to just fix a minimum to those absurd tosses which requires no debate !

I see it differently, because I do the guys where not fit into training on the TM that they are trained correctly.
Talent is spurned :/
usually something only works when someone offers and the other aspect of the bidwar comes into play. If you make fixed prices, he is usually spurned, even with Talent 3.0 :(
Train only MIDs and everything else ends up on the TM. Usually I don't have room for all the guys.

There’s a lot of talent unskilled players on market, so even if talent was displaying, again: too much offers, less demand for unskilled players means no value in term of market price.

sometimes you have to work out the fried pigeons :)

i have same problem... in youth have 10 players and need 4-5 fired, but this season did not come youths what stay.

Ideas:

1) 15 Y.O inital enter
2) 17 Y.O Top age to enter
3) "Debil" (4) pace when came out of school.
4) Talent 3 to 4 (3.0; 3.1; 3.2; and so to 4)

I think with this we can improve next generations of players in sokker.

; )

With this new system of 13 week, intead of 16, we lose 3 week of training.
So if around 1 level skill less for year.

: S

wouldn't these 4 changes together make almost every junior good?

I would rather narrow years-span down and e.g. only 17-18yo would come into YS
And if these older ones could have their skills improved above level 'excellent' then maybe sometimes they would also be usable

Do you realize that a "good junior" is a relative concept? If every junior on the game were 20 yo with a level from tragic to weak, then a 20 yo weak junior would be a star...

Maybe not the first seasons where the old players would be so much good compared to them. But after that, when every player in the game comes from a school with that conditions, then they would be

Beyond skill level (and relativism) there is a scale between the amount of top rare, few good-enough, and massive unskilled juniors; and this scale is huge.

It's ok that rare stay rare, even more rare maybe, but the average juniors level in/out is really poor.

Absurd toss every weeks (16-18y level tragic week 3 for example) and a massive market of 1€ youngers every weeks. At least, constraining randomness to a minimum, please :-)
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