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Subject: Gigantic future inflation

2022-11-27 15:42:45
Yes it is simple solution to reduce the only real reward you have for reaching the top divisions. This topic is a showcase of half-baked ideas
2022-11-27 17:21:21
Balancing top divisions and lower divisions income is the other thing. Now every team (older than few months and with good enough stadium) is making too much money from tickets.

Ticket income should be lowered across all teams, then it can be balanced further by increasing ticket money for top divisions teams. Also ticket money (and sponsors money) should be less dependant on supporter's mood. It's stupid when you fight hard for a promotion and then in higher division you get less money, because you are in lower half of the league and your supporters are not happy with that.

But we need to remember that weekly income for top teams shouldn't be too high. It should be a norm that being on top costs you money, this way new clubs have a chance to catch up (if they know what to do).
2022-11-27 19:50:10
It should be a norm that being on top costs you money, this way new clubs have a chance to catch up (if they know what to do).

Being on top already costs enourmous amounts of money from wages.
This will only encourage managers to hang in lower divisions and encourages farming. Then what kind of a game you have?

Let's just await the new youth school reform...then we can see if inflation needs adjustments or not...
2022-11-27 20:01:34
Wages isnt even the biggest expense. Biggest "expense" is that players start to drop and lose value massively starting at 28y and onwards.
2022-11-27 20:08:00
Older players are bought for alot more money than 5 seasons ago...
But a very big random factor is form!
Players with low form often are sold for a fraction of their real value in comparison with players with high form.
2022-11-27 20:41:23
In recent seasons and thinking only about the value in money - yes. But in regards of "staying on top" you cant sell a 30y+ guy and get someone of the same quality younger to replace to constantly stay at the top.
2022-11-27 21:18:55
Ok, mister negative. Then please share all of us the real solution then. You're always the first to react when suggestions are bad, but I never see you give an actual solution...

it's not my game and it's not my job to think about such things, there are people who make money here, it's their job to think this through, so I can't be bothered

doesn't change the fact that bad solutions are bad solutions
2022-11-27 21:47:08
Being on top already costs enourmous amounts of money from wages.
Wages isnt even the biggest expense. Biggest "expense" is that players start to drop and lose value massively starting at 28y and onwards.

Yeah, that's what I mean about "costing money", that when you consider all factors (weekly balance - including sponsors, tickets, wages; and also old players losing value, young players gaining value, getting valuable juniors from youth school) being on top should net you negative money results.
That's the only way you can achieve "healthy" balance of money in game - being on top "eats" money, being on bottom creates money, and it should about to cancel out. Now we have excessive tickets income, so being on top doesn't "eat" that much money, while being on bottom gives even more money than before, and all this causes inflation.

This will only encourage managers to hang in lower divisions and encourages farming. Then what kind of a game you have?

The same we had for almost 20 years. If being in lower divisions was financially worse than being in top divisions then managers in lower divisions would have no chance of catching those in higher divisions (with both managers presenting the same quality of playing).
Yes, the side effect of this balance we have is that some clubs will infinitely farm money in low divisions. It is possible to introduce some game mechanics that would discourage such farming - for example wealth tax, seasonal income tax, also lowering income from sponsors, tickets and bad supporters mood when team is sitting on a lot of money while being in unreasonably low division. But you need to be very careful with introducing such things, the line between making meaningful restrictions and making a mess of the game is thin :P

Let's just await the new youth school reform...then we can see if inflation needs adjustments or not...

There is no way a youth school reform will stop inflation. There is just too much money generated from tickets. If youth schools cost that much money after reform... people will stop having it :)
2022-11-27 21:54:16
I farmed at lowest divisions in this game for years. I even played only corner tactics in all games which resulted in fans leaving fanclub massively and very little money from sponsors and tickets. Yet I could afford the best coaches possible and I always trained best young players in the game. And this way I made much more money that I ever could playing top division. Only thing that would stop me from doing this would be If my players could not train with maximum efficiency at lower divisions.
2022-11-27 22:20:37
Only thing that would stop me from doing this would be If my players could not train with maximum efficiency at lower divisions.

Seasonal wealth and/or income tax could hurt a lot :) Or in extreme cases like your "corner tactics farming in league games" you could make a rule about players terminating their contracts because club plays on too low of the level compared to player's level / potential... There are ways to make extreme farming clubs suffer.
2022-11-28 19:10:29
Interesting reading, but if there is more income, then it's normal that players cost more too :) Basically more income means higher player prices, nothing has changed except the fact that each team earns more and spends more 1=1 problem resolved. Who cannot make money now wouldn't ever make any.

There is a solution for everybody, just each team needs to adopt ''the style of spending money'' accordingly.

- If a team is out of competition, where's the problem of taking a young team and train them?
- If you're in competition with a huge stadium + sponsors there shouldn't be a problem of buying expensive players and/or also train and sell one or two and remain in competition.

There are a lot of ways to manage your team, these two examples are just very random but every team can find a way in my opinion with current ''inflation''
2022-11-29 15:02:25
You didn't quote my whole message, the most important part of my message is: /s

Ah yes, I missed that important part. So I wrote a post for nothing :P although someone did respond
2022-11-29 15:09:33
You really want all the rich teams to suddenly start spending all their money on youths and other player investments and that will in Your opinion lower the inflation? Interesting take

Yep, one time. Ofcourse let all managers know this is going to happen in one or seasons from that moment, so all money can be spend. And that is a good thing for the rich teams. That way they can use their money to improve their team, and have no reason to complain it is unfair. Others don't have that money to spend, so it is fair
And their money isn't suddenly taken from them, which is also fair.

I think it is the most easy way to keep transferprices more balanced, prevent to have too much money in the game, and maybe even stop or at least slow down trading.
2022-11-29 15:13:56
a transfer limit of 15 players each season can do the trick.

This is a problem for new managers, who need to change the complete team from start. And also need to do more transfers when promoting.
2022-11-29 15:37:22
Real solution is simple. Greatly cut income from tickets, for example by 40%. Or just from league matches by 50%, leaving cup and friendly matches without changes.


This is also not good for new managers. And not good for teams like me. The new division and league has hit me had. I'm loosibg supporters by the dozens, stadium is almost empty, income has dropped already. It has become even harder to keep up with stronger teams, let alone trying to become as strong.

I don't say my solution is the only and/or best solution, but a solution should only effect those teams earning and owning too much money, that has a negative effect on the game. New and weaker teams should not be limited with income. To make it to the top, managers do need money and that is fine.

So whatever the solution, it must have full effect on the teams 'responsible' for the inflation.

Another solution could be somehow an increase of costs. And in such a way there is a tipping point making money will not cover the costs anymore. But I think that is difficult to implement. For example, it won't be fair to implement permanent higher stadium costs all of the sudden, as managers have been upgrading stadiums over time.
2022-11-29 16:20:07
Yep, one time. Ofcourse let all managers know this is going to happen in one or seasons from that moment, so all money can be spend

it doesn't work that way

this money doesn't go to sokker, it goes to another manager who then will also spend it etc., this money will simply go into circulation