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Subject: [info] Training issue - solutions

2025-11-29 22:48:35
If the team average form is the key, then selling good form players kan affect the bad form players positively, maybe?
2025-11-30 04:18:18
Ummm good point, interesting... maybe
2025-11-30 09:59:54
My point was, that you‘re not unlucky seeing how high the average form in your team is…
How form changes is random, always was in sokker (context: this isn‘t the first team I created on sokker).

Complaining about overall negative form updates with that high of a average form makes you look like a crybaby.
2025-11-30 10:01:35
From a statistical POV, it does.
There‘s only so much improvement possibke when most of your players have high form.
2025-11-30 13:30:36
Umish was not complaining about overall negative form, but about long term negative form with the same players. It's completely different.
Having a general lower form can happen, but in general the average form will float around the median form. And that will probably create the issue of long term high vs long term low form. Because both extreme form levels maintain the balance of the average form level of your team.
So...if a really good player is parking in low form, then the best thing to do is to find his counterform player, parked in long term high form and then try to either let his form drop by not selecting him for matches, or by selling him.
Anyways, this is for sure a theory I'm about to test if I ever have this issue again...
Possible side effect by influencing the good form player is that not the bad form player will rise in form, but another player...
Well...nothing to do about that, I guess
2025-11-30 16:26:23
He can‘t really complain about that. He has only one player with low form (form 5)…
Also not true, he was complaining about the form update he got.

It‘s been the same issue, aside from the engine, that players complain about. Good to see that this still didn‘t change in the 14 years I was away from sokker.
2025-11-30 18:09:50
It‘s been the same issue, aside from the engine, that players complain about. Good to see that this still didn‘t change in the 14 years I was away from sokker.

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After such a short time at Sokker, it is impossible to make a judgment at this point. It is impossible to assess what has changed overall in the last 14 years—including the engine. First, gather your own experiences over the next four SOKKER seasons, and only then, in my opinion, will you be able to make a reasonably accurate assessment—not after just a few days at SOKKER since you returned 14 years ago!
2025-11-30 18:16:13
Maybe others can see me like a crybaby but, It's okey I understand that, I just want to write my point... I don't talk from my average form, I suggest and speak from the idea to give a logic to that important aspect game.

Example: if you have a good performance to management of players time, you shouldn't have a alike average form to others players that do a bad job with that.

And for this aspect game, it shouldn't difficult change the current logic.

But you right in fact that some process of the game are random and in my opinion unfair. I hope that my opinion add ideas to get game better.
2025-11-30 20:35:18
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2025-11-30 20:35:20
umish0 :)

I think it's great that you're taking a stand on this issue that's important to you. In my opinion, it has absolutely nothing to do with whining.
Thank you very much for your suggestions! Keep being so refreshingly honest and open to everything!!!
2025-11-30 22:16:48
No need for that, as I was referring to the complaining on those subjects…