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Subject: [idea] move subpages to right pages
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Layout still doesn't make sense. Searching for stadion, couldn't find it. It is under team. That makes no sense. Team should be players of squad
Stadium, finances, etc should be in office.
History should be in something like club
Transfers has it own page, but players, which is very important has a number of pages, with transfers, stadium, etc. in team
Tactics, also very important, still hidden under training. Makes no sense ar all.
Nowhere to click country and/or open national team pages easily.
Etc etc.
It is a complete mess, always was, still is.
But it's not that hard to come up.with a list of pagenames and subpages that should be in those pages.
I wonder why new managers don't keep playing ......
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Stadium, finances, etc should be in office.
History should be in something like club
Transfers has it own page, but players, which is very important has a number of pages, with transfers, stadium, etc. in team
Tactics, also very important, still hidden under training. Makes no sense ar all.
Nowhere to click country and/or open national team pages easily.
Etc etc.
It is a complete mess, always was, still is.
But it's not that hard to come up.with a list of pagenames and subpages that should be in those pages.
I wonder why new managers don't keep playing ......
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I don't even know why I post this. Completely useless, as Sokker is still Sokker. Nothing changes
Yes, the layout in colors, but it is still polishing a turd, if something is even polished.
Yes, the layout in colors, but it is still polishing a turd, if something is even polished.
stadium should be in club, and it is
however due to the fact that Team also relates to club, the whole "submenu" of club is also there so it is accessible from that submenu
History should be in something like club
it is
Transfers has it own page, but players, which is very important has a number of pages, with transfers, stadium, etc. in team
I dont understand what You are talking about here
Tactics, also very important, still hidden under training. Makes no sense ar all.
not touched so it is where it was, but imho the place is ok
Nowhere to click country and/or open national team pages easily.
either via club and click your country or via World menu
where do You suggest it should be to be more accessible?
But it's not that hard to come up.with a list of pagenames and subpages that should be in those pages.
so propose how it should be according to You
it's unfinished as it is now, but more or less ok-ish from my point of view
however due to the fact that Team also relates to club, the whole "submenu" of club is also there so it is accessible from that submenu
History should be in something like club
it is
Transfers has it own page, but players, which is very important has a number of pages, with transfers, stadium, etc. in team
I dont understand what You are talking about here
Tactics, also very important, still hidden under training. Makes no sense ar all.
not touched so it is where it was, but imho the place is ok
Nowhere to click country and/or open national team pages easily.
either via club and click your country or via World menu
where do You suggest it should be to be more accessible?
But it's not that hard to come up.with a list of pagenames and subpages that should be in those pages.
so propose how it should be according to You
it's unfinished as it is now, but more or less ok-ish from my point of view
What I am talking about is that the Sokker page still doesn't make sense. It is a mess.
If you look at other online games, also football manager games, the pages and subpages make sense. No need to find out all kind of subpages under pages where it should not be.
Sokker is very user-unfriendly. And no, not according to me but according new users. And most probably also many users overall. Being used to Sokker doesn't make it okay.
'scrolling' though a game should feel 'naturally'. Don't know how else I can explain it. Doesn't matter what kind of game, online or app, you see it when you open the game, if it makes sense of not. Sokker doesn't. The low number of users left is because of a reason, or better said, the low number of new managers who keep playing is a fact. Almost all give up after just one login.
If you look at other online games, also football manager games, the pages and subpages make sense. No need to find out all kind of subpages under pages where it should not be.
Sokker is very user-unfriendly. And no, not according to me but according new users. And most probably also many users overall. Being used to Sokker doesn't make it okay.
'scrolling' though a game should feel 'naturally'. Don't know how else I can explain it. Doesn't matter what kind of game, online or app, you see it when you open the game, if it makes sense of not. Sokker doesn't. The low number of users left is because of a reason, or better said, the low number of new managers who keep playing is a fact. Almost all give up after just one login.
Oh, I have to say, with a laptop it is a bit better, the mobile version is not okay.
Transfers has it own page, but players, which is very important has a number of pages, with transfers, stadium, etc. in team
I dont understand what You are talking about here
He's talking about the tabs in Team... First squad, junior squad, but mainly the tabs above.
He doesn't understand that the new layout needs to have extra tabs to pages to go, while most of those pages are also accessible through the left menu.
My opinion in this matter:
Left menu:
Club
- Players
- Staff
- Stadium
- History
- Fans
Matches
- Calender
- Match set up
- Tactics
- Friendlies
Finances
- Financial overview
- Transfer history
Transfers
- Buy Players
- Buy Staff
Youth Academy
- Players
- Staff
- Matches
- Recruiting
- Training
Office
- Plus
- Pressroom
- Help
- Scouting (Player files)
- Search
National Teams
- NT club page
- U21 NT club page
- Search NT
Forum
And please... re-introduce the ''cursor hovering reveal option'' where you can see the underlying options when you hover the cursor over the main headers in the left menu.
Simple and clear is the key in a good interface and lay-out.
You can work with colors, lines, tabs, whatever,.... but the information you read as a user / visitor should be basic ABC clear for even the biggest football noobs.
One of the main problems of the site is the required knowledge in football games and football as a sport to be able to figure out where the most things you search are hidden, and even then, it is even not always clear for the most experienced users.
The amount of noob questions that are being asked on forum, over and over again, says all about the accessibility of the site.
I dont understand what You are talking about here
He's talking about the tabs in Team... First squad, junior squad, but mainly the tabs above.
He doesn't understand that the new layout needs to have extra tabs to pages to go, while most of those pages are also accessible through the left menu.
My opinion in this matter:
Left menu:
Club
- Players
- Staff
- Stadium
- History
- Fans
Matches
- Calender
- Match set up
- Tactics
- Friendlies
Finances
- Financial overview
- Transfer history
Transfers
- Buy Players
- Buy Staff
Youth Academy
- Players
- Staff
- Matches
- Recruiting
- Training
Office
- Plus
- Pressroom
- Help
- Scouting (Player files)
- Search
National Teams
- NT club page
- U21 NT club page
- Search NT
Forum
And please... re-introduce the ''cursor hovering reveal option'' where you can see the underlying options when you hover the cursor over the main headers in the left menu.
Simple and clear is the key in a good interface and lay-out.
You can work with colors, lines, tabs, whatever,.... but the information you read as a user / visitor should be basic ABC clear for even the biggest football noobs.
One of the main problems of the site is the required knowledge in football games and football as a sport to be able to figure out where the most things you search are hidden, and even then, it is even not always clear for the most experienced users.
The amount of noob questions that are being asked on forum, over and over again, says all about the accessibility of the site.
He doesn't understand that the new layout needs to have extra tabs to pages to go, while most of those pages are also accessible through the left menu.
it is simple, user's club is not the only team that user will be browsing (and from top menu he/she can access other team players, club info, whatever) and user needs fast access to his/her team subpages (hence side menu)
it is simple, user's club is not the only team that user will be browsing (and from top menu he/she can access other team players, club info, whatever) and user needs fast access to his/her team subpages (hence side menu)
Imo, clubs should only have 1 available page for other managers to browse to.
A simple summary page with all available data for other managers in a similar page like the curent overview page.
Less pages is less browser prosessing = better performance
A simple summary page with all available data for other managers in a similar page like the curent overview page.
Less pages is less browser prosessing = better performance
He doesn't understand that the new layout needs to have extra tabs to pages to go,
I do understand that ofcourse (if I understand your text). There are too many subpages to give all each own page. That could make it even worse :P
I am glad you explained it even better. And your page and subpages example is a lot better as how it is at the moment. Something like that makes sense. Although players could be somewhere else, not in club.
Like Youth Academy has youth players and all that has to do with youth. The same could be done with Team, under that players, matches, friendly etc. Just as you did with Youth Academy
In Club everything that has something to do with the club, like indeed stadium, history, fans, trophy, etc
What is left is tactics and line up. That is all about being the team manager, so maybe that should be called Manager, or Coach, or Tactical.
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I do understand that ofcourse (if I understand your text). There are too many subpages to give all each own page. That could make it even worse :P
I am glad you explained it even better. And your page and subpages example is a lot better as how it is at the moment. Something like that makes sense. Although players could be somewhere else, not in club.
Like Youth Academy has youth players and all that has to do with youth. The same could be done with Team, under that players, matches, friendly etc. Just as you did with Youth Academy
In Club everything that has something to do with the club, like indeed stadium, history, fans, trophy, etc
What is left is tactics and line up. That is all about being the team manager, so maybe that should be called Manager, or Coach, or Tactical.
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I didn't mean that you don't understand it, but that you wonder why those tabs are there, since they are in the left menu.
Kryminator explained the why, but imo it's a useless manner of working.
1 scroll page for visitors and a clear and simple view for owners, with logical menu, pages and tabs.
Kryminator explained the why, but imo it's a useless manner of working.
1 scroll page for visitors and a clear and simple view for owners, with logical menu, pages and tabs.
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