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Subject: Fans expectations
That can be countered by increasing the drop for high fanclub teams and decreasing the rise for high fanclub teams.
So the lower your fanclub, the higher the rise of your fanbase should be, like it is now. AAnd vice versa with high fanclub teams. BUT
The difference lies in the prevention of drops whenever you are still fulfilling the expectations, regardless of the opponents! It's not your fault your opponents are bad. So your fanbase should not be suffering from it either!
If you lose, well, that's another matter, but if you're winning...no way you should be losing fans
So the lower your fanclub, the higher the rise of your fanbase should be, like it is now. AAnd vice versa with high fanclub teams. BUT
The difference lies in the prevention of drops whenever you are still fulfilling the expectations, regardless of the opponents! It's not your fault your opponents are bad. So your fanbase should not be suffering from it either!
If you lose, well, that's another matter, but if you're winning...no way you should be losing fans
It’s always been an issue for leagues that contain bots/new users etc, even back in the old system of 8 team leagues. It does hurt smaller nations worse though because they can’t promote out of it.
That being said, it was all balanced around the 8 team league and the old fan mood system before these new expectations came in. So when it was common to have madly in love fans fan numbers would gradually increase or flatline off. Others would gain with reasonable fan mood and some new clubs would grow even losing everything.
I think this has been unbalanced by the change to 12 team leagues and the fact that the fans expectation system has been changed so that it’s very difficult for teams to have madly in love supporters which was kind of the basis of how the fan club size was built around.
Taking my side id have still been gaining fans under the system prior to the expectations which in turn would mean Achmid would lose less. I’m actually in a position where I can’t gain fans to get to Achmid/agbell without knocking them off and causing them to lose more then they already do.
It’s a case of they tinkered with a system that was interconnected with so many things and only changed one piece of it and said that will do. Pretty much every development they’ve done.
It’s basically impossible for clubs to gain fans without another side losing them now, especially when so many sides in the same league have the same expectations just to reach the base level of satisfaction. 3/4 teams with podium/vice championship expectations and 3/4 doesn’t go into the so someone is losing out already. The others just keep parity because there’s only one spot better than vice championship and if they achieve that the other side gets hit even harder.
I think if meeting expectations weren’t punished as harshly because they’re not exceeding expectations and simply meeting them then it might be a better balance. Alternatively you’d need to rebalance the fan club size calculation to adjust for the fact that for the majority of teams they can’t get above a certain fan mood.
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That being said, it was all balanced around the 8 team league and the old fan mood system before these new expectations came in. So when it was common to have madly in love fans fan numbers would gradually increase or flatline off. Others would gain with reasonable fan mood and some new clubs would grow even losing everything.
I think this has been unbalanced by the change to 12 team leagues and the fact that the fans expectation system has been changed so that it’s very difficult for teams to have madly in love supporters which was kind of the basis of how the fan club size was built around.
Taking my side id have still been gaining fans under the system prior to the expectations which in turn would mean Achmid would lose less. I’m actually in a position where I can’t gain fans to get to Achmid/agbell without knocking them off and causing them to lose more then they already do.
It’s a case of they tinkered with a system that was interconnected with so many things and only changed one piece of it and said that will do. Pretty much every development they’ve done.
It’s basically impossible for clubs to gain fans without another side losing them now, especially when so many sides in the same league have the same expectations just to reach the base level of satisfaction. 3/4 teams with podium/vice championship expectations and 3/4 doesn’t go into the so someone is losing out already. The others just keep parity because there’s only one spot better than vice championship and if they achieve that the other side gets hit even harder.
I think if meeting expectations weren’t punished as harshly because they’re not exceeding expectations and simply meeting them then it might be a better balance. Alternatively you’d need to rebalance the fan club size calculation to adjust for the fact that for the majority of teams they can’t get above a certain fan mood.
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All that is true, but this was done on purpose to stop the inflation created by 1 extra league match / week.
Financially you don't get less compared to pre-12 team leagues.
Financially you don't get less compared to pre-12 team leagues.