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Subject: Ancient Greek
Ξέρει ο άνθρωπος τι γίνεται... Δείτε τι λέει...:)
Ναι το ξέρω... Απλά είπα ότι ξέρει την αλήθεια... Τεσπα, μην αρχίζουμε πάλι όπως είπε και ο darvor...:)
sotiri. den kratithika.. h istoria pou mathaineis sxoleio den einai antikeimeniki tespa min to sinexisoume...
η καθε χωρα στα βιβλια της γραφει διαφορετικα πραγματα,τιποτα αλλο εχεις?
nai diavaze wiki kai diavaze gia ta idia gegonota plirofories kai apo tous htthmenous kai ap[la mathene ta antikeimenika
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Το be honest there ar still some rivalries but nothing too extreme. Athenians make fun of other ppl's talking and accent. In Thessalia there is a "fight" over water between Karditsa and Larisa. These kind of stuff....
Atheneans are still angry at Cretans cause we beat them and we were feeding their youngsters to Minotaur, so now they are trying to destroy our great team, OFI Crete :p
1. Thanks for the correction regarding the name F.Y.R.O.M / Macedonia. I am certain many people around the world are NOT aware of that change and I actually checked several places and look at what I got!
This is from Wikipedia:
> Macedonia (region), a region of the Balkan peninsula which includes:
>>Republic of Macedonia, a current state, also referred to as the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)
>>Macedonia (Greece) or Greek Macedonia, a region of Greece
>>Blagoevgrad Province, a region of Bulgaria
This is from the CIA travel advisory site to American tourists:
>Macedonia gained its independence peacefully from Yugoslavia in 1991, but Greece's objection to the new state's use of what it considered a Hellenic name and symbols delayed international recognition, which occurred under the provisional designation of "the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia." In 1995, Greece lifted a 20-month trade embargo and the two countries agreed to normalise relations. The United States began referring to Macedonia by its constitutional name, Republic of Macedonia, in 2004 and negotiations continue between Greece and Macedonia to resolve the name issue.
Between us here, in the Greek forums I will say that it is my personal belief that indeed it looks as if FYROM has ‘borrowed’ the name to distance itself from the Yugoslav past and indeed it might not be proper name, but I will not get into this topic since I sense it is a sensitive issue. I shall call that country FYROM and the ancient Greek region Macedonia and let us put this behind us and discuss it no more, at least here.
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2. Please don’t speak Greek in this thread. It is impolite, especially as I am the host of this thread and I don’t understand Greek. If we have a conversation here, I would like to be part of it. It is important to me to understand what people say.
I repeat that the Greek history and past are of great importance to me and I wish to learn as much as I can about it, so please take me into consideration.
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3. Thank you Nikko_Da_Pappi & boukoumtsa for the information and the anecdote about the minotaur. If any of you enjoy reading books, great books in English, then I wish to recommend two books about the exact same period of Alcibiades’ Sicilian campaign.
The first book is – Tides of War, by Steven Pressfield, which is probably one of the greatest books I ever read. You read it and you actually are in that time period and feel everything that went on there. Fantastic book written through the eyes of the person who assassinated Alcibiades.
The second book is – The Walled Orchard, by Tom Holt, which is also a wonderful book but slightly more funny as it describes that period from the eyes a comic poet who used to write plays as that time. Very cynical view.
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4. I think that perhaps at the end of the summer, my wife and I will go on a tour of Greece, trying to see at least some of the sites which I read about. It is only an hour and a half of flight away from here and from what I read, Athenians are some of the craziest people on this planet ;-) and that I must see. :)
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This is from Wikipedia:
> Macedonia (region), a region of the Balkan peninsula which includes:
>>Republic of Macedonia, a current state, also referred to as the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)
>>Macedonia (Greece) or Greek Macedonia, a region of Greece
>>Blagoevgrad Province, a region of Bulgaria
This is from the CIA travel advisory site to American tourists:
>Macedonia gained its independence peacefully from Yugoslavia in 1991, but Greece's objection to the new state's use of what it considered a Hellenic name and symbols delayed international recognition, which occurred under the provisional designation of "the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia." In 1995, Greece lifted a 20-month trade embargo and the two countries agreed to normalise relations. The United States began referring to Macedonia by its constitutional name, Republic of Macedonia, in 2004 and negotiations continue between Greece and Macedonia to resolve the name issue.
Between us here, in the Greek forums I will say that it is my personal belief that indeed it looks as if FYROM has ‘borrowed’ the name to distance itself from the Yugoslav past and indeed it might not be proper name, but I will not get into this topic since I sense it is a sensitive issue. I shall call that country FYROM and the ancient Greek region Macedonia and let us put this behind us and discuss it no more, at least here.
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2. Please don’t speak Greek in this thread. It is impolite, especially as I am the host of this thread and I don’t understand Greek. If we have a conversation here, I would like to be part of it. It is important to me to understand what people say.
I repeat that the Greek history and past are of great importance to me and I wish to learn as much as I can about it, so please take me into consideration.
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3. Thank you Nikko_Da_Pappi & boukoumtsa for the information and the anecdote about the minotaur. If any of you enjoy reading books, great books in English, then I wish to recommend two books about the exact same period of Alcibiades’ Sicilian campaign.
The first book is – Tides of War, by Steven Pressfield, which is probably one of the greatest books I ever read. You read it and you actually are in that time period and feel everything that went on there. Fantastic book written through the eyes of the person who assassinated Alcibiades.
The second book is – The Walled Orchard, by Tom Holt, which is also a wonderful book but slightly more funny as it describes that period from the eyes a comic poet who used to write plays as that time. Very cynical view.
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4. I think that perhaps at the end of the summer, my wife and I will go on a tour of Greece, trying to see at least some of the sites which I read about. It is only an hour and a half of flight away from here and from what I read, Athenians are some of the craziest people on this planet ;-) and that I must see. :)
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also i must refer that wikipedia is made from everyone.
everyone can go inside the site and make a topic.
everyone can go inside the site and make a topic.
Yes, I know. It's not a true source of knowledge :) but remember that it is what millions of people use and only use, so even if the explanation is incorrect, that is what they believe. But never mind, we cleared that subject. :)
how about to rename FYROM with petach tiqwa?
until '80 they had nothing to do with macedonia and their name was vardaska...
politics and tourism made them STOLE the name....
i am so bores of this issue thought and we are not the people that have to solve it...
we speak greek only when something is not references to you...
bouk eisai trelos..
sotiri eilikrina.....
until '80 they had nothing to do with macedonia and their name was vardaska...
politics and tourism made them STOLE the name....
i am so bores of this issue thought and we are not the people that have to solve it...
we speak greek only when something is not references to you...
bouk eisai trelos..
sotiri eilikrina.....
Hey Kid, don't get upset and read my post above properly. :)
I said there "I shall call that country FYROM and the ancient Greek region Macedonia."
I agree that this region of FYROM should not be called Macedonia, but there is nothing you and me can do about it, as it is all international politics. And I also asked not to discuss this as it is also not interesting to me.
The other issue is that even if it is not referring to me, you should not speak Greek here because I asked you nicely and it is impolite to do so in the thread I opened.
eutukhei ;-)
I said there "I shall call that country FYROM and the ancient Greek region Macedonia."
I agree that this region of FYROM should not be called Macedonia, but there is nothing you and me can do about it, as it is all international politics. And I also asked not to discuss this as it is also not interesting to me.
The other issue is that even if it is not referring to me, you should not speak Greek here because I asked you nicely and it is impolite to do so in the thread I opened.
eutukhei ;-)
its entaksei and i am not a kid...
have a nice day
have a nice day