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Subject: Israel [en]

2008-11-21 17:55:48
I mean your sokker "existence". Hope you know what I mean... :) Your "life" in here, not that one in real world (for now).
2008-11-22 12:20:23
i mainlly spam here

you chose the wrong day to try to talk to the israeli community
:(

our mod got suspended
2008-11-22 13:46:35
What? I don't understand... This is topic about everything what takes Israel. Israel in Sokker, Israel in real world, israelian managers, their hobbies, opinions etc. You can't get a ban for writing here, 'cause in fact there is no "fixed" theme, so I don't understand what do you mean then...
2008-11-22 13:48:49
He didn't say that..he said that there aren't so much comments because there is a big fight in our community :(
I hope it would calm down...
2008-11-22 14:51:25
aha, now I understand... But I have to say, I'm not happy with this fact. I came here, 'cause I thought Israelians are very companionate and I wanted to know people who have some intelligence and doesn't need to argue witch others :( That's what happend in our community, hope you'll find some solutions soon and stop fighting. "Forum question" was also one of the themes I wannted to discuss with you, it I left it for another time.

Who are the main protagonist of the problem?
2008-11-23 01:08:04
right now i am because im the only one who isng in ban who would agree to talk about it
but im sure all of that will change soon...

we have someone in here who allways stabbing ppl in the back it tore our community apart its either your with him or against him
it seems like im in a pickle the last 2 he sweared will live the game got banned from this game and will never come back

we used to be a really tight community all met together at someones house ate and played soccer but now all we do is fight surprisingly with one guy allways in the middle
2008-11-23 10:20:44
ban him for 100 days from forum and will be peace. If won't help, mod has also ability to get neverending ban on forum.
2008-11-23 10:59:43
well, i'm hardly here.. but still look on forum from time to time :)
2008-11-23 11:10:38
the story isnt as simple as ohad told it.

but dont mind that
we are still here
:)
2008-11-23 11:11:24
yup :)
2008-11-23 12:10:33
Hi Scorpio

I'm Motti

An old guy with a young attitude :)
I actually took part in the religion discussion last time you visited us.

As for my Sokker existance - I don't spend too much time in it. Was promoted to the 2nd league this season and I am doing my best to survive there.

I visited Slovakia, while it was still part of Czechoslovakia. A beautiful country. Still hope to visit it again one day.
I heard of your amazing caves like the Domika cave and I really want to see it and some other places one day.
As a basketball fan, I also remember the times when Bratislava's team did well in Europe.

I live next to the Dead Sea, a fantastic place that I recommand everybody to visit and to vote for as one of the current wonders of the world
http://www.new7wonders.com/
2008-11-23 13:39:24
Hi, sorry I don't remember you, but it was couple of months ago so you'll forgive me... Btw. that cave is Domica not Domika and we have another famous cave Dobshinska Ice Cave (Dobšinská ľadová jaskyňa in slovak). It's really cold in there, so take a jacket with you then ;)

About basketball, I like football and ice hockey more, but here where I live (Levice) basketball is sport No.1 we play slovakian 1st league what is nice success. Even NT matches sometimes are playing here, in our hall.

And when you're talking about beuties of Israel, that was theme I wanted to discuss also sometimes in future (everything has it's time, right?). RogIronfist already invited me in your country, not sure if he ment it really, but for now, there is many places, mostly in Europe I want to see (mainly big, famous, old cities - Rome, Prague, Moscow etc.). Israel is not so big turistic destination, but I admit it could be interesting to bath in a see, where you can't get drowned... Or to see place where Jesus Christ was crucifixed...
2008-11-23 15:05:10
and lived, and baptized...

But Israel is not just History. When you decide to discuss its beauty, I'll tell you more, and whenever you decide to come, you will be most welcome to visit me in my Kibbutz next to the Dead Sea. I can't speak for RogIronfist, but I will welcome you at my house too. I mean it
:)
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2008-11-23 15:11:42
Whooau, I'm shocked! :) So maybe I really go there, every day I'll be living in another managers house and save money for hotels :) My friend has a book, "Travel to East" it's journey for whole Asia, and Middle East is also there, and Israel too. I remember, that you may live in "Kibbutz" and something similar for free, they give you food and place to sleep, but you have to work as slave on field or what is that, plantague or what... And there are 2 types. One is just for food and sleeping place, and another is also for money, but you have to work much more. They say, this living is for people who wants to learn israelian way of life, language etc. It's cheap way to stay there and know that country for longer time. But I would better take it as vacation :)
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2008-11-23 23:05:42
First of all, let me be clear: Erez always means what he says, and so do I

:)

As for the description you gave - it sounds like "volunteers status". Less and less places (kibbutzes) offer this arangement. Our Kibbutz doesn't any more. We use to have volunteers.
You stay in the Kibbutz for at least 2 months, get a place to sleep with other volunteers, meet youngsters from all over the world, enjoy the Kibbutz facilities (pool, pub, dinning room, parties, etc.,) get some pocket money (around 200$ per month) a guide that aranges group activities for the volunteers, trips once a while, in some places you even get an adopting family.
This was a good way to spend time as a youngster and get to know the country at the meantime. Trust me - they have really good time for 45 hours of work per week.
No slavory conditions. I wish I could do something like this abroad somewhere when I was young.
Anyway, this is not an option in most Kibbutzim now. The system is more efficient, and the cons of having temporary workers that come and go all the time, made it too costly. It takes them a month or more to become good workers...
2008-11-24 06:19:34
Yes, this is what I read abot kibbutz. But that was one more kibbutz, but name of it was different, and you can earn much more money there, but you have to work much more. It was a book from travelers, one of them work 3 days and earn enought money for flight ticket back to home... But he told, he has to work as a slave 12 hours a day... But hey, okay, I'm not talking you're slaver or what, just mentioned what I known about those kibbutz ;)

And who's (or what's )Erez?