Subject: [NT]condor88 - mysprs

but in the official match (or mini WC) with a 0-0 are 1 point, a lose 5-4 are 0 point!
in friendly also a lost 5-4 are good!

of course it would be a much better result in the MWC or a WCQ match, but it would also hurt the Goal difference if it was a crucial match.

Slightly changing the subject here, but i have a question for you;

Irrespective of who becomes the NT manager, how far do you think Malaysia can make it in the Mini World Cup?

I do not know. it depends the NT who will meet: against Türkiye or other similar NT we will have little possibility. But if with fortune they will be avoided Malaysia will be able to arrive until the end.

I more meant what round do you think Malaysia will get knocked out in - Without looking at any opponents or draws

Group Stages - 1/8 final - 1/4 final - 1/2 final - final?
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I do not know. Is impossible to say it. It depends on the adversaries. you I can you say if with NT xxx we can win or not.

i will rephrase it then,

What stage do you HOPE that Malaysia will get to - NOT looking at any opponents

The weakness is in the Malaysian Midfield

they maybe not as good as other NT Midfield but you are forgetting that if used properly they are the only reason the ATT score! as the Malaysian ATT are not yet capable of causing NT defenders massive problems on there own.

both are wrong, i prefer a 5-0 win

I prefer a 6-0 winn ;)

@mysprs


I am buying Malaysians only

Wrong, who is that svergie guy in your team?

Tigermaster view are very much on improving Malaysian midfielders and base the game on attacking play.

If you look at the bigger upsets in sokker, it is not based around defensive play, it is through aggressive tactics. Of course I can comment best for Australia, but we have managed to get some nice results through attacking and are yet to be upset when we have played aggressively

This sort of play was brought to us primarily through borkos007, and has continued, which is why with our small user base, we have managed to come so far against large countries

Having an more attacking play, it means to me we needs wingers and attacking midfielders

This is very much not true, and that is coming from one of the better tacticians. Wingers are an attacking option and so are AM's BUT they are not the only option, and through strong midfielders, you can be aggressive. They can also help in defence through numbers.

By starting from the back you are trying to deny other teams goals, but unless you think you can stop strikers with unearthly pace and tech, then this is not the best way to do so as you will limit your own scoring opportunities.


Malaysia GK scores 70+, Striker scores 60+, 2 midfielders scores 50+, all are international standard score

The only one of those which can be considered slightly representative is the GK score. All other ratings are highly affected by playmaking. I believe without knowing your players that those two mids are likely to have high PM and the defenders do not, which is not a bad thing in defence. I have defenders in my team getting marks of 30-40 that have brilliant pace and def. This does not mean they arent good, their playmaker levels just suck

1) How can Malaysia plays a more attacking games, where the only strength Malaysia have is a bunch of good strikers? I believe attacking games meaning, good wingers and good attacking midfielders, and we don't have any single of them, not even close. We only have 3-4 all rounder midfielders. Manchester United is an attacking minded teams, because they have strong wingers/attacking midfielders not strong strikers.

Answered above

but in the official match (or mini WC) with a 0-0 are 1 point, a lose 5-4 are 0 point!
in friendly also a lost 5-4 are good!

Yeh in points this is better but when it comes to gaining user interest, people perfer to see goals even if they lose. often a high scoring result like this could go either way. It is one tactic we have used in australia to gain more interest in NT by playing games where we hope that a lot of goals will be scored to get new people interested.

Personally I like and am good at this game but get bored if only 1 goal is scored, and I dislike soccer outside of this game.
I think you need to look at a few of these in more detail to see what really needs to be done in a small nation. Obviously Malaysia is not Australia, but when it comes to winning unwinable games, it is very similar

P.S. why did I suddenly come to this forum and point out the bad bits? Because I think another perspective was needed in a smaller country.

However I do respect you and you probably are major influencing manager in malaysia and a lot will rely on yourself, but I think it is best to let someone who has seen both easy wins and difficult matches throughout many seasons take over. And being from Australia, who has limited users and is known for causing upsets, is just a bonus


And yes, I do know one of my quotes wasnt from you ;)

And yes, I do know one of my quotes wasnt from you ;)

lol


guys I think you just have differents points of wiew about sokker, we all have differents points of wiew...

I believe that playmaking is important for defenders as def is important for midfielders...

I'm sure that having good wings has the same importance of playing with good strikers, but this is only my opinion like what said by you and mysprs...

you do not think so, just differents points of wiew ;)

I definitely agree with def for mids, it is extremely useful.

As far as pm and defs go, either pm or tech normally work, but at present I lean on the tech side. Both is just a luxury, Id perfer the extra levels in pace and def

Achmid,

Firstly, I appreciate some top manager from Australia drop in Malaysia forum and give me some of his view. Below is my view.


1) Wrong, who is that svergie guy in your team?

Out of my 28 purchaseson my entire career in Sokker, I purchase 27 local players and 1 Sveridge keeper. The reason is I need a formidable keeper in my league, and I can't find any local keeper in the market that is formidable. I have monitor closely every day in Malaysia market since 3-4 seasons ago. If I can find one, I don't mind buying more expensive local. Anyway, I sold my 24 years old market keeper for RM 2.4 mil, and buy my 20 years old formidale keeper for RM 1.5 mil. If there is a formidable local keeper in the market, it will be double to triple the price of RM 1.5 mil, I willing to pay, yet no one have a 20 years old local formidable keeper and willing to sell. I have paid extra in the pass to get local.

Anyway, it doesn't matter, whether I buy local or not. It is irrelevant. Buying a Sveridge keeper doesn't stop me from knowing the local market well. The fact is I know most Malaysian players well, because I monitor the market day in day out and also mailing alot to local users about their players. It is not extreme to say that I know the local players more than the previous NT coaches. You can just put a survey, and check whether the Malaysian users communicate more with myself on their players or the NT coaches doing it more.


2) On the other opinion on the games view, I would say I respect, but not agree. I don't wish to go for a lengthy explanation to discuss on the difference. As mentioned before, I don't believe anyone have the right answer, it is just not possible, so no point discuss and debate for a thing that we can't get a definite answer.

The game is just about opinion. And my post to Tigermaster, is just to mention the reason I am not with him is I don't agree on his view on sokker Malaysia.


3) but I think it is best to let someone who has seen both easy wins and difficult matches throughout many seasons take over

I think you are under impression that I am running the NT coach election, that is why I wrote this mail. On your opinion, you advise me to let someone that have more experience to takeover at the NT coach.

It is obvious you didn't follow Malaysian forum. I am doing just that! I am campaigning for condor88, I am part of his team. To me a second tier team from Italy (ranked second) is more experience thatn a second tier team from Australia (ranked 34th, no offence).

Many Malaysian users wanted to me to be their NT coach, but I have rejected them because, I would like someone more experience handling this position. I am exactly doing it, and on my opinion, I think condor88 are more experienced in terms of years of playing it and the difficulty of the league.

Please get the fact right first.


4) Because I think another perspective was needed in a smaller country

Australia
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Season 12
Users 112
Users that vote by Saturday (active users) 11

Malaysia
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Season 7
Users 93
Users that vote by Saturday (active users) 23


Let me tell you on my opinion, Malaysia is just 5 season behind Australia, yet the user base is not that big difference, less than 20 users difference. And base on the person that vote for NT coach, I would say Malaysia have more active users than Australia.

You can call Malaysia as a young development country, but as an Australian and see Malaysia as a small country is an insult. I don't see there is the gap between Australia and Malaysia is that big, that you refering Malaysia to a small country that can't manage their own NT and should leave it to others.

You are right, we are not ready, but we are close. That is why, choosing candidates for this election is extremely important to prepare Malaysia for this direction.

Tigermaster is Malaysia NT coach at Season 10 Australia, and I don't see why Malaysia cannot have their own NT coach at Season 9. Anyway, our community are more active in my opinion.

In other word, it is a target for Malaysian to have local NT coach by Season 9, 2 to 3 seasons from now.

The reason I am with condor88 teams are I would like Malaysian users to be exposed to Nt coach setup so that in 2-3 seasons, we are ready. Alot of Malaysians, told me we should do it locally this season, I told them we are not, but 2-3 season time, I think we are ok.

However, I don't see voting Tigermaster will lead us to this direction. Just look at his long election speech, nothing like that mentioned, not a single word menton to give exposure to Malaysian to manage NT coach only mention work closely with Malaysian users.

I have nothing against Tigermaster, as he did alot of contribution to teaching Malaysia basic of the game, and that includes myself. But just view it in a bigger picture, a combination of Tigermaster and wooikeim is not what we need now to prepare us for the next 2-3 seasons.

If Tigermaster won, I don't see him he can attact any other helper, and that includes myself. So, likely wooikeim will help him, and both of them is running this for 2 seasons now. And what we have achieved for the last 2 seasons? Let me tell you, I repeatedly mention that getting results from them is not possible, but I expect they give full attention of indentifying the talents and work closely with Malaysian users on developing them. And to my dismay, a few talents that I checked that are Malaysian potential, but does not get proper training and miss out in the team. We are losing players under Tigermaster as NT coach and assistant NT coach for the last 2 season. Does Tigermaster mail every single users and check with them? Let me tell you elite teams like myself and other Super Liga teams, don't receive the mail, do you expect lower league teams get it? How about those that in overseas?

Do we need another season of that, or do we want to have a team of 5, I will try to find 1-2 potential NT candidates to join the team and work as a team? Can't expect it to be perfect, but numbers do help, to make more things done. Lets decide tomorow.
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Thanks for the reply, it's good to see you aren't afraid to get a bit of criticism.

And as far as the Svergie player, it was a bit of a joke really, nothing serious :P

However, I don\\\'t see voting Tigermaster will lead us to this direction. Just look at his long election speech, nothing like that mentioned, not a single word menton to give exposure to Malaysian to manage NT coach only mention work closely with Malaysian users.

Mysprs, if you looked at my Election plans again you will see where you have your information incorrect there...

My Plans for the Season:
1. If elected I would like to take as much advice from Malaysian users and any other players as to how you would like the NT to be run.
2. I will form a committee of players and get scouts for each position (Att, Mid, Def, GK) these players will also help with tactical ideas and player selections.
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Achmid,

Thanks for the reply.


Tigermaster,

My bad on getting this wrong on the election speech part. You did mention in your election page.