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By Tigermaster on the other thread.
A big blow for malaysia tonight - As I have just found out that I will not be able to access the Current Database.. It is a decision of the Owners of the site and unfortunately their minds will not be swayed (Use for Italian users only)
I am disappointed to say the least but I am currently looking into different ways of obtaining a Database
As I mentioned before to the Malaysian users pre-election, I will try to continue to become Malaysia spoke person regardless of what happened in the previous election to enlighen Malaysia users about what currently happen.
1) I respected Malaysia decision to choose for short term 'shock' to see better result ant tactic used in NT, and ignore the development of identifying talents and building the NT by choosing Tigermaster. But I am frustrated too, because in the process we lose the Malaysia 'Database' and do everything all over again. However, you can criticise me as you wish, but I vow not to serve the Malaysian national team, until I am convinced Malaysian users changed their mindset. National Team coach is a 2 season jobs in my opinion, 1 season of preparation and 1 season of competition. Changing NT coach every season will discontinue what have been worked out by the previous team, the effort gone zero and back to square one again. Doing NT players gathering is a very painful job, just ask people like sialunx. And Malaysian users doesn't help, by making things difficult for the team that work for NT. I am very piss off with Malaysian users attitude that don't appreciate the NT helpers and I tell myself, I will not put in this position again afte I learned all my previous effort of building DB for Malaysia is gone to the drain after Tigermaster won the election.
2) Tigermaster know nothing about DB building, I have to enlighten him via mail, after he won the election. I am very sad this is the type of coach Malaysia users choosen. Actually, I don't like to criticse the NT coach even before he starts work, I know they are trying to help, but to be fair, he never fair to condor too. He keep on critising condor how bad he is, and how bad he is, without knowing himself that what condor can offer on Malaysia database development program. And he has no knowledge of DB, and criticise the more powerful users. So, I think it is only fair for me to voice out what I think it is not right, as I said I being told to be spokeperson for Malaysian, voice out the Malaysian view. But I must said, he is trying very hard to start from beginning to make a DB. But it is alot alot of work that I have gone through, let him gone through him himself. But even he willing to go through himself, Malaysia progress is backward, back to the rebuilding stage. Why do all over again, where initially you have done it?
3) Last season we have decided to make Malaysia forward, we will use an engine currently used by Italian NT. This engine is in-house built by Italian users. And the Italian programmer don't mind the team that is managed by Italian use the system. I am glad, I have been introduced to such a good system for NT. Basically, this is the idea. First year, key in all player details into the DB engine. The engine will have alot of features that will tell the NT and their scouts, on the strengths and weaknesses on each positions. They will classify players by each age group U20, U19, U18 and so forth and their statistic rating. In short the NT, will have a system to know exactly what is shortcoming and which areas need to be attend. And there is a top 10 table for the users to see whether their coach is doing the job by choosing the right players. Alot efforts have been done to make the DB work by keying in all the players exist in transfer and etc.
4) The DB already helped Malaysia to find some gems that in my experience will never be found by using the convention method. And also, various weaknesses are identified, and some users have voluntary help to improve the area Malaysia needs atttention. This season suppose to be the season where to test it out in actual match, but unfortunately, we have to start all over again and rebuild a database from square one now.
5) You can criticise as you wish, but I make a decision I will not to involve in NT development anymore. You can tell me that I am selfish, but I have unselfishly try to build a Malaysian base that is strong. But you will be frustrated where you need to redo your effort everytime. Those that know me, know that I am pros the NT coach in charge even jawor, wooikeim and even tigermaster previously. I am all for continuity. Because only continuity will move Malaysia forward. Changing coach every season will make the backroom staffs wasted their effort and this is what happened every time for dunno how many time.
6) I wish the current NT coach will able to pick up his knowledge and given time to build the NT again. And hopefully one or two Malaysian users can come up and make the backroom staff stronger. But I have give up on being associated at it. What is the point of helping, where everytime your effort will be down to drain?
A big blow for malaysia tonight - As I have just found out that I will not be able to access the Current Database.. It is a decision of the Owners of the site and unfortunately their minds will not be swayed (Use for Italian users only)
I am disappointed to say the least but I am currently looking into different ways of obtaining a Database
As I mentioned before to the Malaysian users pre-election, I will try to continue to become Malaysia spoke person regardless of what happened in the previous election to enlighen Malaysia users about what currently happen.
1) I respected Malaysia decision to choose for short term 'shock' to see better result ant tactic used in NT, and ignore the development of identifying talents and building the NT by choosing Tigermaster. But I am frustrated too, because in the process we lose the Malaysia 'Database' and do everything all over again. However, you can criticise me as you wish, but I vow not to serve the Malaysian national team, until I am convinced Malaysian users changed their mindset. National Team coach is a 2 season jobs in my opinion, 1 season of preparation and 1 season of competition. Changing NT coach every season will discontinue what have been worked out by the previous team, the effort gone zero and back to square one again. Doing NT players gathering is a very painful job, just ask people like sialunx. And Malaysian users doesn't help, by making things difficult for the team that work for NT. I am very piss off with Malaysian users attitude that don't appreciate the NT helpers and I tell myself, I will not put in this position again afte I learned all my previous effort of building DB for Malaysia is gone to the drain after Tigermaster won the election.
2) Tigermaster know nothing about DB building, I have to enlighten him via mail, after he won the election. I am very sad this is the type of coach Malaysia users choosen. Actually, I don't like to criticse the NT coach even before he starts work, I know they are trying to help, but to be fair, he never fair to condor too. He keep on critising condor how bad he is, and how bad he is, without knowing himself that what condor can offer on Malaysia database development program. And he has no knowledge of DB, and criticise the more powerful users. So, I think it is only fair for me to voice out what I think it is not right, as I said I being told to be spokeperson for Malaysian, voice out the Malaysian view. But I must said, he is trying very hard to start from beginning to make a DB. But it is alot alot of work that I have gone through, let him gone through him himself. But even he willing to go through himself, Malaysia progress is backward, back to the rebuilding stage. Why do all over again, where initially you have done it?
3) Last season we have decided to make Malaysia forward, we will use an engine currently used by Italian NT. This engine is in-house built by Italian users. And the Italian programmer don't mind the team that is managed by Italian use the system. I am glad, I have been introduced to such a good system for NT. Basically, this is the idea. First year, key in all player details into the DB engine. The engine will have alot of features that will tell the NT and their scouts, on the strengths and weaknesses on each positions. They will classify players by each age group U20, U19, U18 and so forth and their statistic rating. In short the NT, will have a system to know exactly what is shortcoming and which areas need to be attend. And there is a top 10 table for the users to see whether their coach is doing the job by choosing the right players. Alot efforts have been done to make the DB work by keying in all the players exist in transfer and etc.
4) The DB already helped Malaysia to find some gems that in my experience will never be found by using the convention method. And also, various weaknesses are identified, and some users have voluntary help to improve the area Malaysia needs atttention. This season suppose to be the season where to test it out in actual match, but unfortunately, we have to start all over again and rebuild a database from square one now.
5) You can criticise as you wish, but I make a decision I will not to involve in NT development anymore. You can tell me that I am selfish, but I have unselfishly try to build a Malaysian base that is strong. But you will be frustrated where you need to redo your effort everytime. Those that know me, know that I am pros the NT coach in charge even jawor, wooikeim and even tigermaster previously. I am all for continuity. Because only continuity will move Malaysia forward. Changing coach every season will make the backroom staffs wasted their effort and this is what happened every time for dunno how many time.
6) I wish the current NT coach will able to pick up his knowledge and given time to build the NT again. And hopefully one or two Malaysian users can come up and make the backroom staff stronger. But I have give up on being associated at it. What is the point of helping, where everytime your effort will be down to drain?
You do realize that you can have a successful database using programs like access and excel right? this is how cometer and myself keep track of all Aussie talents...and we have a lot more players than you.
As far as finding NT players, yeah it is a little time consuming, but really doesn't take that long, especially when looking for nice young players, and when you already know who is likely to play in the NT that makes like even easier.
As far as this database of yours goes, there is no database ever that can "find gems" or tell you where or how to play a player, it is based entirely on their individual skills and how you need to play them given the opposition and your tactic. All a computer can do is give a number value based on how strong you believe each skill is for each position and you can only have so many variables.
As for this "voice of Malaysia" that you apparently are, I think you should take a good look at whose side you were on in the NT elections and see who actually got elected, obviously more people disagree with how you think then agree with you.
Tigermaster will be doing his best to move your nation forward, and I believe he will do a much better job than your team did. And if he needs a little guidance from managers who have been through the exact same thing of turning a small country into a threat, he can always ask myself for guidance.
As far as finding NT players, yeah it is a little time consuming, but really doesn't take that long, especially when looking for nice young players, and when you already know who is likely to play in the NT that makes like even easier.
As far as this database of yours goes, there is no database ever that can "find gems" or tell you where or how to play a player, it is based entirely on their individual skills and how you need to play them given the opposition and your tactic. All a computer can do is give a number value based on how strong you believe each skill is for each position and you can only have so many variables.
As for this "voice of Malaysia" that you apparently are, I think you should take a good look at whose side you were on in the NT elections and see who actually got elected, obviously more people disagree with how you think then agree with you.
Tigermaster will be doing his best to move your nation forward, and I believe he will do a much better job than your team did. And if he needs a little guidance from managers who have been through the exact same thing of turning a small country into a threat, he can always ask myself for guidance.
Hmm, what happen to the database? They owner refuse to share the database system, but how about the player data? Cannot copy out for new NT coach?I though previous season all NT coach will pass the player detail to next.
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You do realize that you can have a successful database using programs like access and excel right? this is how cometer and myself keep track of all Aussie talents...and we have a lot more players than you.
This is outdated technology used by not so successful nation. Sorry for offending, just tell the truth. If you want me to list out the pros and cons, I can.
This is outdated technology used by not so successful nation. Sorry for offending, just tell the truth. If you want me to list out the pros and cons, I can.
As for this "voice of Malaysia" that you apparently are, I think you should take a good look at whose side you were on in the NT elections and see who actually got elected, obviously more people disagree with how you think then agree with you.
Are you sure on that? What I know is Malaysian users want Malaysian to be their NT coach. I have did it before, if I would have a nice debate on the election with Tiger, I don't think I will lose to him. The last election is an example, the election result before I gave my speech and after I gave my speech.
Anyway, I am not interested in the job. I just want to make Malaysia stronger. I see positive results, although it is slow due to very little active users base. And to me Tigermaster make the nation backward. He had given chance before and screw it up previously. Most important things, he do not know which are need to be taken care. So, even he tried his best, the area will not be taken care.
The reason he won this time is he keep on highlighting the other candidate weaknesses and didn't realise he himself has more weaknesses. His weaknesses make Malaysia didn't progress at all and have a few good players didn't make up to the NT when he is NT coach. If you want name, I can give. I am familiar with Malaysian sokker players. Because of his recklesses on his job previously, I have to involve to ensure good talents take care.
No point argue here, next season this time, we will know for sure. Will history repeat for himself? Bear in mind, there is how many season in Malaysia coach is not reelected.
Are you sure on that? What I know is Malaysian users want Malaysian to be their NT coach. I have did it before, if I would have a nice debate on the election with Tiger, I don't think I will lose to him. The last election is an example, the election result before I gave my speech and after I gave my speech.
Anyway, I am not interested in the job. I just want to make Malaysia stronger. I see positive results, although it is slow due to very little active users base. And to me Tigermaster make the nation backward. He had given chance before and screw it up previously. Most important things, he do not know which are need to be taken care. So, even he tried his best, the area will not be taken care.
The reason he won this time is he keep on highlighting the other candidate weaknesses and didn't realise he himself has more weaknesses. His weaknesses make Malaysia didn't progress at all and have a few good players didn't make up to the NT when he is NT coach. If you want name, I can give. I am familiar with Malaysian sokker players. Because of his recklesses on his job previously, I have to involve to ensure good talents take care.
No point argue here, next season this time, we will know for sure. Will history repeat for himself? Bear in mind, there is how many season in Malaysia coach is not reelected.
Hmm, what happen to the database? They owner refuse to share the database system, but how about the player data? Cannot copy out for new NT coach?I though previous season all NT coach will pass the player detail to next.
l6776793,
Let me further explain. Database is just a base to store data. And thats all, nothing fancy.
What make database is powerful or not, is depends on the software/SQL/query that is programmed and link to the database. And of course, in the computer world now, everyone would agree that if the software written are strong to play around with the database system, it will give valuable information one can imagine.
Level 1
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Store all the players details into Excel or Access. And you will have a table on all your players.
Level 2
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On top of the Excel or Access, add up formulas, criterias to able to filter/provide various information.
Level 3
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Write a software that can access the DB, and provide various information that you need.
What you suggesst is Level 1, and all the previous NT coach is in Level 1. With condor in, he managed to move us to Level 3, where we build a very good base and use the base in existing software used by Italian NT.
And of course, once the software writer know that the NT is no longer managed by Italian, it is only right they will not share it out, it is a nation secret.
And when Tigermaster is elected, unfortunately, we have move from Level 3 back to Level 1.
l6776793,
Let me further explain. Database is just a base to store data. And thats all, nothing fancy.
What make database is powerful or not, is depends on the software/SQL/query that is programmed and link to the database. And of course, in the computer world now, everyone would agree that if the software written are strong to play around with the database system, it will give valuable information one can imagine.
Level 1
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Store all the players details into Excel or Access. And you will have a table on all your players.
Level 2
--------
On top of the Excel or Access, add up formulas, criterias to able to filter/provide various information.
Level 3
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Write a software that can access the DB, and provide various information that you need.
What you suggesst is Level 1, and all the previous NT coach is in Level 1. With condor in, he managed to move us to Level 3, where we build a very good base and use the base in existing software used by Italian NT.
And of course, once the software writer know that the NT is no longer managed by Italian, it is only right they will not share it out, it is a nation secret.
And when Tigermaster is elected, unfortunately, we have move from Level 3 back to Level 1.
Unfortunately, Australia NT is still in Level 1 and they think they can move Malaysia forward, without realising they actually moving Malaysia backward.
This is outdated technology used by not so successful nation
I'm sorry, no so successful nation? In the past season we have gone from being a 4th seed team in the world cup to the highest 3rd seed team (which if the world cup draw was held now we would be a 2nd seed team).
So as far as this not so successful nation goes, we have proven to be very successful.
After reading a lot of your posts over the past season and a bit (yes I have still been reading although not posting) your comments are very one sided and without proof to back up, and your further post on thi subject has shown how little your knowledge is in this game.
I do agree with one point you make about malaysia wanting a malaysian Nt manager, and that should be the goal of every small or young nation, but to get there you need to wait until you have an experienced, level-headed man in your country, and until there is proof that there is someone like that in your sokker country that wants the job someone like tigermaster is a great fill-in especially as he has seen the ups and downs of a small country that was at one stage quite a young country. Whereas someone from a big country knows nothing else then how to see a big successful country run.
The online database may be needed for Italy, Poland etc, where receiving thousands of sk-mails to update each week is too much, but for a small country, sending stats to one person to put in an access sheet is sufficiant. And as I said is bing implemented very well in australia
I'm sorry, no so successful nation? In the past season we have gone from being a 4th seed team in the world cup to the highest 3rd seed team (which if the world cup draw was held now we would be a 2nd seed team).
So as far as this not so successful nation goes, we have proven to be very successful.
After reading a lot of your posts over the past season and a bit (yes I have still been reading although not posting) your comments are very one sided and without proof to back up, and your further post on thi subject has shown how little your knowledge is in this game.
I do agree with one point you make about malaysia wanting a malaysian Nt manager, and that should be the goal of every small or young nation, but to get there you need to wait until you have an experienced, level-headed man in your country, and until there is proof that there is someone like that in your sokker country that wants the job someone like tigermaster is a great fill-in especially as he has seen the ups and downs of a small country that was at one stage quite a young country. Whereas someone from a big country knows nothing else then how to see a big successful country run.
The online database may be needed for Italy, Poland etc, where receiving thousands of sk-mails to update each week is too much, but for a small country, sending stats to one person to put in an access sheet is sufficiant. And as I said is bing implemented very well in australia
Look I am the last person who should be talking because I spend the minimum amount of time playing the game including not even bothering to create a proper set of tactics for my team to use...... but...... imagine if the NT was under my control...... OMG! Then you guys will see true devastation of the NT ;)
Back to the point... mysprs, I understand your viewpoint and dedication to the Malaysian NT and the effort you have put in (and I am one of those lousy malaysian players who let you down when I couldn't even update my player skills) but perhaps you are acting a little too much from your heart. You could offer constructive criticism to tigermaster and help him to build up on the areas he is lacking in and he in turn could offer his assets in furthering the Malaysian cause. No one is perfect and no one knows everything...... trust me on this please. If you guys at least try to work together..... you might both get the end result you desire.
I am a persona non grata in HT Malaysia (even till this day) because I refused to allow a small group of people to undermine the gaming experience of everyone playing the game because they thought they knew better than everyone else and worse used positions in the game to dictate terms to everyone. I am blamed for splintering HT Malaysia but look at how much more success the teams have had since those people were shaken up or kicked out. More people have gotten involved and allowed to participate in the NT who would never have the chance if those people were still in power.
Similarly you have a choice to make: Try to find common ground and work to achieve your desired goals. There is no need to attack each other when neither party has done anything remotely bad/nasty in nature. Above all else remember that sokker is a game to most of us and everyone should be allowed to participate in any way at all. Don't form opposing sides in a battle to control the NT (except during elections) and split what remains into unworkable pieces. In summary be like H. Clinton and B. Obama...... show the love after the daggers are put away. ;)
Btw Feel free to ignore my rambling gibberish but I had time to waste whilst waiting for a transfer deadline :)
Back to the point... mysprs, I understand your viewpoint and dedication to the Malaysian NT and the effort you have put in (and I am one of those lousy malaysian players who let you down when I couldn't even update my player skills) but perhaps you are acting a little too much from your heart. You could offer constructive criticism to tigermaster and help him to build up on the areas he is lacking in and he in turn could offer his assets in furthering the Malaysian cause. No one is perfect and no one knows everything...... trust me on this please. If you guys at least try to work together..... you might both get the end result you desire.
I am a persona non grata in HT Malaysia (even till this day) because I refused to allow a small group of people to undermine the gaming experience of everyone playing the game because they thought they knew better than everyone else and worse used positions in the game to dictate terms to everyone. I am blamed for splintering HT Malaysia but look at how much more success the teams have had since those people were shaken up or kicked out. More people have gotten involved and allowed to participate in the NT who would never have the chance if those people were still in power.
Similarly you have a choice to make: Try to find common ground and work to achieve your desired goals. There is no need to attack each other when neither party has done anything remotely bad/nasty in nature. Above all else remember that sokker is a game to most of us and everyone should be allowed to participate in any way at all. Don't form opposing sides in a battle to control the NT (except during elections) and split what remains into unworkable pieces. In summary be like H. Clinton and B. Obama...... show the love after the daggers are put away. ;)
Btw Feel free to ignore my rambling gibberish but I had time to waste whilst waiting for a transfer deadline :)
Buluman,
There is a very nice and sensible post from you.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way. I can work with anybody, but he must be the one that I respect and it only means he just needs to respect other first. I have the same thinking line with you, joining force and work as a team will bear fruit.
However, if the one that I am working with is a 'bodoh sombong' (direct translation stupid arrogrant), always boasting about how good their nation is, and repeatedly mentioned your nation is a small nation, and small nation should listen to the big nation. Just see the above post by the Australians, how many time he want to refer Malaysia as a small nation althought this has mentioned before that it is insulting. Nevertheless, this is the atttitude of Tigermaster's mentor, and Tigermaster follow suit and the way he criticise condor. He didn't realise that there sure is a part of game where condor is better. So, it is finale, I won't work with 'bodoh sombong' manager.
Nevertheless, this is my principle, and I mentioned it before, I don't think I can work with people that don't respect people. So, I am out of this possible partnership.
Nevertheless, base on what happen in Malaysia, I found it pointless to continue to do the same work again and again fot the reason mentioned above. And it is my intention to quit for good, and let see how the advanced nation coach make Malaysia progrees.
The reason for all the post above is I want Malaysia user to know the reason I quite. If not, when asked, someone might just say the reason mysprs not taking NT jobs due to he think he is not good enough.
There is a very nice and sensible post from you.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way. I can work with anybody, but he must be the one that I respect and it only means he just needs to respect other first. I have the same thinking line with you, joining force and work as a team will bear fruit.
However, if the one that I am working with is a 'bodoh sombong' (direct translation stupid arrogrant), always boasting about how good their nation is, and repeatedly mentioned your nation is a small nation, and small nation should listen to the big nation. Just see the above post by the Australians, how many time he want to refer Malaysia as a small nation althought this has mentioned before that it is insulting. Nevertheless, this is the atttitude of Tigermaster's mentor, and Tigermaster follow suit and the way he criticise condor. He didn't realise that there sure is a part of game where condor is better. So, it is finale, I won't work with 'bodoh sombong' manager.
Nevertheless, this is my principle, and I mentioned it before, I don't think I can work with people that don't respect people. So, I am out of this possible partnership.
Nevertheless, base on what happen in Malaysia, I found it pointless to continue to do the same work again and again fot the reason mentioned above. And it is my intention to quit for good, and let see how the advanced nation coach make Malaysia progrees.
The reason for all the post above is I want Malaysia user to know the reason I quite. If not, when asked, someone might just say the reason mysprs not taking NT jobs due to he think he is not good enough.
@ Buluman, very mature post and you sound like you want what is best for your NT even if it is not for you exactly.
@mysprs, I don't believe saying a small nation is insulting and im sorry you took it that way, bigger is not always better, and we Australians believe we are a small nation.
The only difference between a small nation and a big nation in sokker alone is that bigger nations tend to have more juniors coming through, and programs such as an online database are very much needed.
Smaller nations on the other hand, have less juniors to get, can be managed by one manager alone (but it doesnt mean they cant have more), and the community is a much closer community where people need to work together, which will make everyone happier.
Really you have the choice to A. Work with tigermaster, constructively criticizing any bad decisions but listen to his ideas too to make yourself a better manager and maybe the one who one day takes over, or B. Say that every move he makes is wrong, learn nothing from him and look like sour grapes.
similarly if condor wants to become NT coach again, he has the same two options. for the next 15 weeks or so, Tigermaster has control of the Nt, and to get the most out of the country I KNOW he would prefer you to be helpful rather then always complaining, and who knows, you may learn something from him. And the opposite is just as likely to happen, he may fail as a NT manager, and then in 15 weeks time when the new election starts, you will have something to back up your point.
Either way, let tigermaster do what he thinks is best for the NT, don't go on about things especially not quitting because if you are truly wanting to quit you will do it without saying it a lot, and if you think you can get rid of the bad feelings, you may even be able to send him your two cents of tactical advice given the team you may be playing, and continue to train up national players
@mysprs, I don't believe saying a small nation is insulting and im sorry you took it that way, bigger is not always better, and we Australians believe we are a small nation.
The only difference between a small nation and a big nation in sokker alone is that bigger nations tend to have more juniors coming through, and programs such as an online database are very much needed.
Smaller nations on the other hand, have less juniors to get, can be managed by one manager alone (but it doesnt mean they cant have more), and the community is a much closer community where people need to work together, which will make everyone happier.
Really you have the choice to A. Work with tigermaster, constructively criticizing any bad decisions but listen to his ideas too to make yourself a better manager and maybe the one who one day takes over, or B. Say that every move he makes is wrong, learn nothing from him and look like sour grapes.
similarly if condor wants to become NT coach again, he has the same two options. for the next 15 weeks or so, Tigermaster has control of the Nt, and to get the most out of the country I KNOW he would prefer you to be helpful rather then always complaining, and who knows, you may learn something from him. And the opposite is just as likely to happen, he may fail as a NT manager, and then in 15 weeks time when the new election starts, you will have something to back up your point.
Either way, let tigermaster do what he thinks is best for the NT, don't go on about things especially not quitting because if you are truly wanting to quit you will do it without saying it a lot, and if you think you can get rid of the bad feelings, you may even be able to send him your two cents of tactical advice given the team you may be playing, and continue to train up national players
The online database may be needed for Italy, Poland etc, where receiving thousands of sk-mails to update each week is too much, but for a small country, sending stats to one person to put in an access sheet is sufficiant. And as I said is bing implemented very well in australia
I can assure you that only few users send sk-mail, or rather there are few users that reply to sk-mail :S
I can assure you that only few users send sk-mail, or rather there are few users that reply to sk-mail :S
i think malaysian voter just want to 'give back' the job to tiger... Remember last 2 election, that condor win? Tiger was win that election but 'bugs' was attack sokker so condor was win after that.
this only my opinion.
this only my opinion.
Sorry i'm just a bit confused here..
Are you saying that you're sabotaging the Malaysian NT by disallowing access to the DB because you dont like Tigermaster?
Are you saying that you're sabotaging the Malaysian NT by disallowing access to the DB because you dont like Tigermaster?
No. He said access to the database which is created by the italians will not be made accessible to non-italian managers. I think that also means Australians of italian origin. This is a decision made by the creators of the database as they are unwilling to share a "National secret" with others. Anyhow, its time to move on.
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