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plus are 2476.
23€/12 *2476 plus users x 10 month = 47 000 €
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You just calculated income, not profit.
23€/12 *2476 plus users x 10 month = 47 000 €
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You just calculated income, not profit.
and how much are the expenses for that kind of business?
I have no idea. There are server costs, uplink costs, system administrator costs, developer/s costs and there will be a few others.
Also the owners of sokker do not get the full sum 23 Euro, payment gateways get their share too.
Also the owners of sokker do not get the full sum 23 Euro, payment gateways get their share too.
OK...lets do this...
Plus yearly subscription = 19.89 GBP
2400 plus users = 47 736 GBP/ year = 3978 GBP/ month
Currently sokker has 28523 active users - each seeing 2 ad.sense banners on log in and browsing pages and also a banner at match time (for 6 damn minutes).
Considering traffic - 1 euro / 1000 users (from all banner impressions) = 28.523 Euros ...if the users log in (average) more then 10 times a month = 285.23 Euros (at least) from impressions.
The server costs and all the rest is lower than 300 Euro/ month (i can assure that)
So all the people that are working on this game (very few...because it has a lot of voluntaries) are splitting the 4k a month.
I would say ...enough to make a living if they split it by mostly 3 (considering the work they do...nothing...or 1-2 hours a month)...that is a good business!
What I don't get is why they don't grow this business ...I talked a few months ago about the potential of the game when it comes to google indexing and bringing new players ....nobody listened!
Plus yearly subscription = 19.89 GBP
2400 plus users = 47 736 GBP/ year = 3978 GBP/ month
Currently sokker has 28523 active users - each seeing 2 ad.sense banners on log in and browsing pages and also a banner at match time (for 6 damn minutes).
Considering traffic - 1 euro / 1000 users (from all banner impressions) = 28.523 Euros ...if the users log in (average) more then 10 times a month = 285.23 Euros (at least) from impressions.
The server costs and all the rest is lower than 300 Euro/ month (i can assure that)
So all the people that are working on this game (very few...because it has a lot of voluntaries) are splitting the 4k a month.
I would say ...enough to make a living if they split it by mostly 3 (considering the work they do...nothing...or 1-2 hours a month)...that is a good business!
What I don't get is why they don't grow this business ...I talked a few months ago about the potential of the game when it comes to google indexing and bringing new players ....nobody listened!
You just calculated income, not profit.
Just calculated with your 'own' market price formula. So, 47k€ not 5k€
Just calculated with your 'own' market price formula. So, 47k€ not 5k€
Just calculated with your 'own' market price formula. So, 47k€ not 5k€
Wrong. "My formula" calculates with PROFIT not INCOME. If you dont know the difference, then do not try to attack someone :-P
And i also never said, that my buying price has something to do with "my formula", which actually is not my, but pure IM formula.
Wrong. "My formula" calculates with PROFIT not INCOME. If you dont know the difference, then do not try to attack someone :-P
And i also never said, that my buying price has something to do with "my formula", which actually is not my, but pure IM formula.
Are free plus users calculated in this?
Moderators, promotors, languages? I think there is like 300 of them.
What I don't get is why they don't grow this business
I think it's the name... Not everyone is interested in this type of game. You can tell all you friends about sokker but most people don't wanna play something like this. Folks who are interested in these type of games are gonna google it, and they google something like online soccer/footbal manager. When you type this sokker is God knows on what page.
Moderators, promotors, languages? I think there is like 300 of them.
What I don't get is why they don't grow this business
I think it's the name... Not everyone is interested in this type of game. You can tell all you friends about sokker but most people don't wanna play something like this. Folks who are interested in these type of games are gonna google it, and they google something like online soccer/footbal manager. When you type this sokker is God knows on what page.
im not attacking you, i just was wrong ;-)
Ok we have an idea of income with the "right" number of "plus". More or less. (miss de payment gateway 'tax' but i dont add advertising income).
Expenses are difficult to estimate, but for sure there s no dev/admin working at full time (the most expensive) because the simple-to-fix bugs are not, announced features are not complete and user/customer feedback is dead ... Or dev are working hard only on a new architecture for mobile but i really doubt about this strategy because Sokker are loosing "plus" each month :)
Ok we have an idea of income with the "right" number of "plus". More or less. (miss de payment gateway 'tax' but i dont add advertising income).
Expenses are difficult to estimate, but for sure there s no dev/admin working at full time (the most expensive) because the simple-to-fix bugs are not, announced features are not complete and user/customer feedback is dead ... Or dev are working hard only on a new architecture for mobile but i really doubt about this strategy because Sokker are loosing "plus" each month :)
Hi Blue, a little but useful request (if you can). Is it possible to change the player link in the new form?
Example:
- actual link from NTDB: http://online.sokker.org/player.php?PID=00000000
- new sokker link:http://online.sokker.org/player/PID/00000000
It works, but in order to see plugin and script button it's necessary to click on the player description to reload the player in the sokker new link.
Thanks.
Example:
- actual link from NTDB: http://online.sokker.org/player.php?PID=00000000
- new sokker link:http://online.sokker.org/player/PID/00000000
It works, but in order to see plugin and script button it's necessary to click on the player description to reload the player in the sokker new link.
Thanks.