Subject: [NT] U27 European Championship - Season 6

thank you for this tournament :)

Slovensko ended with win over Belgium playing with one 29y old ATT who scored 2 goles...

Good stuff to the organisation

i assume coach of Belgium made a mistake but we have to respect the rules so its 3:0 result for you

1-2
Italia - Bulgaria 2:1
3-4
France - Deutschland 1:0
5-6
România - Suomi 4:1
7-8
Polska - Lietuva 3:0
9-10
Bosna i Hercegovina - Česká republika 0:2
11-12
België - Slovensko 0:3
13-14
Magyarország - England 3:5
15-16
Nederland - Scotland 2:3
17-18
Österreich - Schweiz 1:2
19-20
España - Hellas 3:0
21-22
Hrvatska - Hayastan 1:0
23-24
Eesti - Norge 2:1
25-26
Israel - Danmark not played
27-29
Ireland - Latvija not played
29-30
Ukraina - Sverige 0:3
31-32
Kypros - Sakartvelo 3:0
Italia

Bulgaria

France

4th Germany

5th Romania
6th Suomi
7th Poland
8th Lietuva
9th Česká republika
10. Bosna i Hercegovina
11. Slovensko
12. België
13. England
14. Magyarország
15. Scotland
16. Nederland
17. Schweiz
18. Österreich
19. España
20. Hellas
21. Hrvatska
22. Hayastan
23. Eesti
24. Norge

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congrat Italy !

Ty for the tournament sviktorov.

Congratulations to Italy and dadda for the first place and those who honored this great tournament.
A big Thank to sviktorov for the organization. Have a good season!
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thank you guys

great tournament and great final against bulgaria

thank you for all, sviktorov

see you...next saturday!!!

;D

and good luck at all countries for the world cup qualification groups

sorry about that, I took the striker from NTDB and seems it was an error in the age update of the players.I had search criteria under 28 and that striker appeared as 28 not 29 even if i made the player form update.

I have no problem with it, just a mistake, it happens :)

I started a poll for the age limitation and preliminary sign up with all NT trainers for next edition but i would like to start a discussion regarding the age limitation.
Small countries have worries that age limitation is another limit for them and i was wondering if following solution will be ok
if we decide age limitation to be u27 or u28 than the countries will be splited on following groups
Group A countries with 5 or 6 divisions should stick to age limitation no exceptions
Group B countries with 4 divisions will have 1 player with 1 year older
Group C countries with 3 divisions will have 2 players 1 with 1 year older and one 2 year older (just example could be precised)
Group D countries with 2 divisions for them i would say most week so 3 players rule could be define in discusion)

let me know what you think

this is just an example we can reduce groups to 3
also i used number of divisions but it could be number of users but this will be more unclear since some countries are not cleaned from bots regulary

Hi
from me, I agree with Group A and Group B with your proposal and I suggest for Group C to have 2-3 players 28y old
and group D with u28 + 1 player 29y
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Number of divisions is not the best proxy for the size of community. For example Shqipëria has 4 divisions (but only 1 team playing junior league) and Schweiz has only 3 divisions (but 59 teams playing junior leagues). Giving Schweiz advantage over Shqipëria is certainly not your goal. :P

Firstly, I suggest to focus on really small communities (around 5-10 junior league teams) that simply cannot build competitive U27 teams. I believe that medium-sized countries are in general competitive. Secondly, having two flows consisting of 16 teams might be better than having one tournament with 32 teams. Consequently there would be more matches with more or less equally strong opponents.

P.S.: I believe there are no European countries with only 2 divisions.

if a proper cleaning with divisons is done as was promised to be regular action it could be
but yes groups could be defined by number of active teams i can adjust numbers on world page with teams not logged more than a month

2 level countries in europe are
http://sokker.org/country/ID_country/55
http://sokker.org/country/ID_country/40
http://sokker.org/country/ID_country/63

i also invited few nations as kazahstan and ozbekistan to fill the number for flow B if needed

agree levels are not a objective factor
somthing like this would it be more fair?


[1] Polska 4597 213 0
* 1 player bellow limitation
---------------------------------------
keep limitation

[9] România 1185 65 0
[10] Italia 1132 72 0
[41] Türkiye 1007 18 0
[8] Magyarország 720 30 0
[13] Česká republika 515 29 0
[17] España 415 25 1
[28] België 299 16 0
[16] France 291 18 1
[15] Deutschland 261 17 0
[20] Portugal 249 9 0
[49] Hellas 246 14 0
[14] Slovensko 213 10 0
[34] Hrvatska 197 9 0
[39] Srbija 161 7 0
[12] Nederland 158 11 0
[54] Bulgaria 152 12 0
-----------------------------------
* 1 player above limitation only one 1 year

[47] Bosna i Hercegovina 141 10 0
[33] Eesti 125 7 0
[24] Schweiz 102 6 0
[25] Suomi 100 0 0
[79] Azərbaycan 99 5 1

[3] England 80 8 0
[106] Sakartvelo 77 0 0
[64] Ukraina 76 2 0
[30] Österreich 73 6 0
[29] Danmark 71 2 0
[43] Rossiya 66 5 0
[23] Lietuva 61 1 0
[66] Hayastan 54 0 0
[53] Shqipëria 51 1 0
[27] Norge 48 5 0
[31] Sverige 46 2 0
[75] Crna Gora 43 1 0
[69] Moldova 36 1 0
[45] Latvija 32 1 0
[67] Malta 32 0 0
[56] Makedonija 30 1 0
[26] Slovenija 23 1 0
[7] Scotland 23 3 0

-----------------------------------
* 3 players above limitation with one 1 only
[46] Belarus 18 1 0
[32] Ireland 15 2 0
[85] Kypros 15 1 0
[63] Ísland 10 0 0
[71] Andorra 10 1 0
[40] Cymru 6 0 0
[55] Lëtzebuerg 2 0 0
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Certainly better, but some countries have a regular inflow of users who never log in to sokker again (like Shqipëria). I have counted the number of teams playing junior leagues and here is my proposition. ;)

Polska 988
România 410
Italia 396
Magyarország 188
España 137
Česká republika 134
Türkiye 122
France 102
Deutschland 99
België 95
Slovensko 79
Bulgaria 68
Nederland 68
Portugal 63
Hellas 59
Schweiz 59
Hrvatska 56
Suomi 51
Srbija 50
Eesti 47
Bosna i Hercegovina 46
------------------------------ 1xU28
Österreich 36
Danmark 33
Norge 30
Ukraina 27
England 26
Lietuva 24
Azərbaycan 20
Rossiya 17
Sverige 16
Scotland 15
Crna Gora 13
Israel 13
Latvija 12
Malta 11
Moldova 11
------------------------------ 1xU28 + 1xU29
Sakartvelo 10
Hayastan 9
Kypros 9
Belarus 7
Makedonija 7
Slovenija 6
------------------------------ 3xU29
Ireland 4
Andorra 3
Ísland 3
Cymru 2
Lëtzebuerg 2
Kazakhstán 1
O‘zbekiston 1
Shqipëria 1

I have no limitation for Poland. I am used to their superiority in terms of players. And "1 player below" limitation is not effective anyway, they can just use 26y GK. The difference between 11xU27 and 10xU27+1xU28 is much more significant than the difference between 10xU27+1xU26 and 11xU27. ;)

3xU29 for the last group can be changed to 1xU28+2xU29, but there is a decent chance that the team will use one 28y player anyway and 3xU29 just looks better. :P

Agree great proposal