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Subject: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!
ME-Viewer and tactical options,must be the priority,
noone will come for the league or for the training.
noone will come for the league or for the training.
Talking about changes, is there a new rule for saving players that belong to banned teams?
It happened in Scotland today.
Banned teams are banned for a reason and saving the players kind of beats the purpose of banning them in the first place.
Any official rule on that? Thanks
It happened in Scotland today.
Banned teams are banned for a reason and saving the players kind of beats the purpose of banning them in the first place.
Any official rule on that? Thanks
Banned teams are banned for a reason and saving the players kind of beats the purpose of banning them in the first place.
It's not the fault of the players, the team got banned... It's their managers fault...
So players NEED to be resqued from extinction if their manager's a corrupt leader.
THAT is the purpose of the rule...
It's not the fault of the players, the team got banned... It's their managers fault...
So players NEED to be resqued from extinction if their manager's a corrupt leader.
THAT is the purpose of the rule...
+1 no worries banned teams will not profit they will remain banned
International league for everyone is just crazy and unreal!! (I know sokker is not the real thing). I think the best solution for those who want such things is to provide tools to design tournament-type friendly leagues.
It's not about trying to be real, it's about making sure everyone in sokker has a fun time playing.
Plus playing against other people from other countries, and seeing just how good you really are would be fun, and your league would always have similar strength teams to yourself (whether you played 1st, 2nds or corner tactics), because there are so many people in the overall league structure, there would never be a dull game.
It would also mean you aren't being forced to play a B-Grade team for every 2nd match in your National League as it is going to be
It's not about trying to be real, it's about making sure everyone in sokker has a fun time playing.
Plus playing against other people from other countries, and seeing just how good you really are would be fun, and your league would always have similar strength teams to yourself (whether you played 1st, 2nds or corner tactics), because there are so many people in the overall league structure, there would never be a dull game.
It would also mean you aren't being forced to play a B-Grade team for every 2nd match in your National League as it is going to be
"Small countries must grow... it's that simple!"
Wow, that really is a stupid response, and it could only come from someone in a large country.
To grow you need good mentors and to have fun playing the game.
Currently, and it has been for a long time (which is why they have not grown), new users to small countries only play bots. Yay...fun.
Then if they are lucky they find their way to the top, which either still has many bots, or has some users they could never get strong enough to beat, yay...fun.
An international league would keep their interest whilst they do grow, if the longer you keep these managers, the more other new managers will stick around because suddenly the small country is a little bigger than small, and a little bigger again on the next wave.
With the way it is moving, more and more small countries will disappear as they are about to play even more matches against bots, or inactive new managers. So you will lose the current ones, the ones who will mentor the new people, and the country will die.
You can't just say...just grow...without giving what is needed to help them grow
Wow, that really is a stupid response, and it could only come from someone in a large country.
To grow you need good mentors and to have fun playing the game.
Currently, and it has been for a long time (which is why they have not grown), new users to small countries only play bots. Yay...fun.
Then if they are lucky they find their way to the top, which either still has many bots, or has some users they could never get strong enough to beat, yay...fun.
An international league would keep their interest whilst they do grow, if the longer you keep these managers, the more other new managers will stick around because suddenly the small country is a little bigger than small, and a little bigger again on the next wave.
With the way it is moving, more and more small countries will disappear as they are about to play even more matches against bots, or inactive new managers. So you will lose the current ones, the ones who will mentor the new people, and the country will die.
You can't just say...just grow...without giving what is needed to help them grow
You can't just say...just grow...without giving what is needed to help them grow
Then don't just re-post only "that" part of what I've said...
I also said the game must first be made better, more stable, new UX and all bugfixing and upgrading league and ME.
Once the game is finished, it's all about promoting the game, so all countries have a greater "potential" of attracting more users... It's only IF that doesn't work, other solutions must come.
But as I said, don't try to change things before you try them out...
With the way it is moving, more and more small countries will disappear
And that is something that could only being said by a user from a small country!
Btw, Belgium has 174 users... So I don't really call that a "BIG" country...
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Then don't just re-post only "that" part of what I've said...
I also said the game must first be made better, more stable, new UX and all bugfixing and upgrading league and ME.
Once the game is finished, it's all about promoting the game, so all countries have a greater "potential" of attracting more users... It's only IF that doesn't work, other solutions must come.
But as I said, don't try to change things before you try them out...
With the way it is moving, more and more small countries will disappear
And that is something that could only being said by a user from a small country!
Btw, Belgium has 174 users... So I don't really call that a "BIG" country...
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Once the game is finished, it's all about promoting the game, so all countries have a greater "potential" of attracting more users...
this means time when this will happen will increase and we will play in boring divisions for long time
Btw, Belgium has 174 users.
big enough to have 12 teams structure for at least 2 levels ...
this means time when this will happen will increase and we will play in boring divisions for long time
Btw, Belgium has 174 users.
big enough to have 12 teams structure for at least 2 levels ...
You've played in boring league for 15 years... Don't come crying it's not going fast enough now... Ingratefull!
big enough to have 12 teams structure for at least 2 levels ...
Wow... Let's impress :-s
big enough to have 12 teams structure for at least 2 levels ...
Wow... Let's impress :-s
But when options are suggested that helps improve things regardless of size of country, that is not making the game for smaller nations. It is also allowing further expansion for new countries in the future.
"It's only IF that doesn't work, other solutions must come"
So you want people to stick around another 2-3-4 years until it is decided it hasn't worked, on top of all the years they have already spent?
Btw, Belgium has 174 users... So I don't really call that a "BIG" country... - 10th biggest country in Sokker. That is called a big country
With the way it is moving, more and more small countries will disappear
And that is something that could only being said by a user from a small country
Yes exactly right, because we understand what it is like, you do not. We have been patient for many years, you have not had to be. We have been loyal, hoping they improve the game, they are not. We have been the only reason there are some users in our country, you have more people keeping other interested than we even start with so your part of that is minimal
Small countries are also the only reason an NT world cup can even go ahead. When 60% of countries have less than 40 users, and the changes are going to kill them all, what does that leave you with? Every country but 8 will make the world cup final stages.
This game is nothing without the small nations, because there is no good NT scene without them, but at the same time, there is no effort being made to keep people from these games interested.
You are a moderator, you should be looking out for everyone. You do not know what it is like playing in a small country (yet I know what it is like playing in your size country because Australia was that big in the prime years), so you should be listening to us when we talk, because you know nothing about it.
Just like I have no idea what it is like to be someone of colour (as is massive in the news right now), I listen to what people from that demographic say, because no matter what I think, I don't know. And when I hear they are struggling, or feel isolated etc. I listen and try to help fix problems because the world is better with everyone, the same is said for sokker, when you hear the minorities talking, and saying the difficulties, you should be listening and trying to make it better, because the sokker world is better of with them here.
Stop trying to make this game elitist, or else by the time you are done, there won't be a game left. It will just be 10 countries seeing who has the biggest genitals, with no NT scene, very little multicultural input, a huge number of bot countries, and minimal growth because most of the countries got killed before they had a chance to grow
"It's only IF that doesn't work, other solutions must come"
So you want people to stick around another 2-3-4 years until it is decided it hasn't worked, on top of all the years they have already spent?
Btw, Belgium has 174 users... So I don't really call that a "BIG" country... - 10th biggest country in Sokker. That is called a big country
With the way it is moving, more and more small countries will disappear
And that is something that could only being said by a user from a small country
Yes exactly right, because we understand what it is like, you do not. We have been patient for many years, you have not had to be. We have been loyal, hoping they improve the game, they are not. We have been the only reason there are some users in our country, you have more people keeping other interested than we even start with so your part of that is minimal
Small countries are also the only reason an NT world cup can even go ahead. When 60% of countries have less than 40 users, and the changes are going to kill them all, what does that leave you with? Every country but 8 will make the world cup final stages.
This game is nothing without the small nations, because there is no good NT scene without them, but at the same time, there is no effort being made to keep people from these games interested.
You are a moderator, you should be looking out for everyone. You do not know what it is like playing in a small country (yet I know what it is like playing in your size country because Australia was that big in the prime years), so you should be listening to us when we talk, because you know nothing about it.
Just like I have no idea what it is like to be someone of colour (as is massive in the news right now), I listen to what people from that demographic say, because no matter what I think, I don't know. And when I hear they are struggling, or feel isolated etc. I listen and try to help fix problems because the world is better with everyone, the same is said for sokker, when you hear the minorities talking, and saying the difficulties, you should be listening and trying to make it better, because the sokker world is better of with them here.
Stop trying to make this game elitist, or else by the time you are done, there won't be a game left. It will just be 10 countries seeing who has the biggest genitals, with no NT scene, very little multicultural input, a huge number of bot countries, and minimal growth because most of the countries got killed before they had a chance to grow
Whatever dude...
I've said my part, you keep on repeating over and over again... Without understanding what is happening.
If you really have 0% patience, then why did you stayed on sokker for 15 YEARS!!
This update will take about 2 to 3 seasons (not YEARS)... But you don't have the patience to give the devs the time they need to optimize the game, for, without them, it would all be over in 1 to 2 seasons...
Btw, it's not because 5 users from 1 country quit, that the country IS killed...
We can find new users with the right promo...but you believe that can't be realised...
There are solutions for all problems, but you create pointless problems and demand solutions asap from devs...
And it's not about elite users, but about "the game", something you often forget...
I've said my part, you keep on repeating over and over again... Without understanding what is happening.
If you really have 0% patience, then why did you stayed on sokker for 15 YEARS!!
This update will take about 2 to 3 seasons (not YEARS)... But you don't have the patience to give the devs the time they need to optimize the game, for, without them, it would all be over in 1 to 2 seasons...
Btw, it's not because 5 users from 1 country quit, that the country IS killed...
We can find new users with the right promo...but you believe that can't be realised...
There are solutions for all problems, but you create pointless problems and demand solutions asap from devs...
And it's not about elite users, but about "the game", something you often forget...
This update will take about 2 to 3 seasons (not YEARS)... But you don't have the patience to give the devs the time they need to optimize the game, for, without them, it would all be over in 1 to 2 seasons...
3 seasons before implemented.
If promotion happens on that day, and day 1 after promotions 50 users join, and stay, per country, those players will take 5 seasons to be able to even put up some fight
So 3 seasons at 16 weeks - 48 weeks
5 season at 13 week - 65 weeks (at absolute, unreasonable minimum)
This is 113 weeks - over 2 years, at absolute minimum before small country users see any change
So yes...years!
And it's not about elite users, but about "the game", something you often forget...
Looks like you have forgotten this, because I'm trying to include everyone, you just care about a few countries.
If I'm repeating myself, it is because you fail to understand because you are so far removed from what smaller countries go through and how much they have endured, and patience they have shown this game. But that's fine, you know the changes will help your already privileged sokker nation, so of course you will fight tooth and nail to make sure that no further changes occur
3 seasons before implemented.
If promotion happens on that day, and day 1 after promotions 50 users join, and stay, per country, those players will take 5 seasons to be able to even put up some fight
So 3 seasons at 16 weeks - 48 weeks
5 season at 13 week - 65 weeks (at absolute, unreasonable minimum)
This is 113 weeks - over 2 years, at absolute minimum before small country users see any change
So yes...years!
And it's not about elite users, but about "the game", something you often forget...
Looks like you have forgotten this, because I'm trying to include everyone, you just care about a few countries.
If I'm repeating myself, it is because you fail to understand because you are so far removed from what smaller countries go through and how much they have endured, and patience they have shown this game. But that's fine, you know the changes will help your already privileged sokker nation, so of course you will fight tooth and nail to make sure that no further changes occur
so of course you will fight tooth and nail to make sure that no further changes occur
On the contrary! I hope they change alot! I like almost all changes they said they'd implement. Can you say the same? :-p
Just stop the Calimero imitation... It doesn't suit you
On the contrary! I hope they change alot! I like almost all changes they said they'd implement. Can you say the same? :-p
Just stop the Calimero imitation... It doesn't suit you
On the contrary! I hope they change alot! I like almost all changes they said they'd implement. Can you say the same? :-p
That is what I am saying. You literally agreed with me. You like their changes because they suit you, because they suit big countries, and you will fight tooth and nail to make sure these new changes, are not edited or refined in any way which could actually help all countries.
No wonder you can't understand what is wrong with this game, and how hard it is for small nations, when you can't even understand a basic sentence and paragragh.
Just stop the Calimero imitation... It doesn't suit you
*yawn* - still in middle school I see, that explains a lot
That is what I am saying. You literally agreed with me. You like their changes because they suit you, because they suit big countries, and you will fight tooth and nail to make sure these new changes, are not edited or refined in any way which could actually help all countries.
No wonder you can't understand what is wrong with this game, and how hard it is for small nations, when you can't even understand a basic sentence and paragragh.
Just stop the Calimero imitation... It doesn't suit you
*yawn* - still in middle school I see, that explains a lot
No point in arguing, you'll always be right... Have a nice time hoping you can last another 5 years...
What about a Sokker App for phones?? That should be a MUST these days!