Subject: [NT] U27 European Championship - Season 13 sign up

Losing? It depends on what one means by using this word.
e.g. If a player plays 90 min MID on Sunday and 5 min DEF on Wednesday, then he looses all ind. training if you train MID. He gets only passive training for Wednesday 5 min DEF and he also gets general training for 90 min Sunday and 5 minutes Wednesday.
The same applies for NT games.

i think they lose training because if you exceed the 5 players with mid order no one trains, or at least that seems to be the answer

Now I understand your point and I also think that perhaps it happens as you describe (but I can't be sure).

And I also believe, that if it is so, then it should be changed asap.

True, I remember this.

I don't think the training is undermined by the NT game order.

I think there is just no extra training, but I don't think the whole training is kaput.

That's easy to test by playing a guy who is near to pop up a skill in a game with anti-training tactic.
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we are not saying that the whole training is canceled (at least me) i am saying that is no extra training due the 9 players with order mid supossing that the player also plays with mid order on sunday, in that case he is not gonna get training from the nt match

I am with you. But this is not adaca's fault (I am scotland's supporter :p) . This is the way training system works and may be improved after changes

This extra training will be lost. And then, the only incentive to have NT players on senior team is lost.

This is more visible in u21 teams where players are usually trained in friendlies, but you have to check on what order the u21 coach used your player.

i am not saying that is adaca fault either, as you say the system is the one who fails, because the only profit you get when a player plays nt matches is the extra training, but in the most of the cases this get lost only for the order he plays with, so then it doesn't make sense that your players play in the nt

as far as i know, any 2 games gives max training no point player that plays nt and leguage to play friendly he will not gain more training
i always was using this example posted a long time ago as a guide


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well the goal. of NT is not to. train players is to win ranking and tournaments so training is extra bonus :) so im not sure how playing so many mid orders helps but since the goal was achieved adaca did well :)
and i think the players still get experience not sure but i hope so.
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yes that for the nt, but i mean for the team that give the players to the nt´s and they dont even train, so at the end of the day the only thing that can happen is a bad one, that they get injured

About the table you presented:
It was me who made this table in the past and I also wrote, that by this figures one can be sure to achieve maximum individual training.
Past season Raul posted the figures I posted above (95-80 instead of 90-75). According to new figures, players need about 5 minutes less, in order to achieve maximum individual training (and this was also confirmed by training data).

:)
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For senior NT players age 25-26+ it is not that important with few extra % from NT. You must remember as they are older, each training counts as less % of all their training life. It is in the pre u/21 and U/21 NT stage and early seniors max training seriously matter. And yes u/27 should be considered such. But for Scotland, at current userbase, to be at 1/4 final in EC, the cost is well worth it. We have met Italy, Romania, Portugal, France so far and now facing Ceska...... this is a run for me to remember, no matter the outcome next match(es)...

To be precise, I did not mean they lose their weekly training on Thursday (presuming they played with MID order on Sunday or Wed).
I was referring to whether they lost or not that extra NT % due to 9 MID orders in NT match.

I am not sure they lost it.

thanks @tsolias i will quote you in future :)

LOL, it was not about mentioning my name ;P It was about this part:: "...by this figures one can be sure to achieve maximum individual training." In other words:
Players can achieve full trainning on their clubs. NT (or U21) is not responsible for the training of the players.

... and for this last sentence you may quote me, accuse me, burn me, or whatever you want. ;P LOL