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Subject: !! NOVI SISTEM TRENINGA !!
Sezona počela u junu, nedelja 10 bila krajem avgusta pa tu negde treba početi sa gledanjem.
Sad ću i ja da probam da nađem, pre će biti forum development nego int mislim da sam tamo bio aktivniji.
Sad ću i ja da probam da nađem, pre će biti forum development nego int mislim da sam tamo bio aktivniji.
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/63355/ID_topic/3569160/pg/1
Ovde je pomenuti tekst, on otvorio novu temu da objasni, da bi narod bolje razumeo.
Ovde je pomenuti tekst, on otvorio novu temu da objasni, da bi narod bolje razumeo.
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1259/ID_topic/3438030/pg/167 - ovde počinje novi sistem, negde peta šesta nedelja u sezoni i odmah problemi.
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1259/ID_topic/3438030/pg/179 - ovde počinju da se uočavaju usporenja. Primećujemo i da igrači koji su skočili u pejsu na starom sistemu koji je bio poništen, nisu skočili po novom strana 182.
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1259/ID_topic/3438030/pg/197 - primećujemo da je trening definitivno jako usporen i tu kreće hajka i odatle treba da čitate sve do polovine oktobra i njihove konačne kapitulacije
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https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1259/ID_topic/3438030/pg/179 - ovde počinju da se uočavaju usporenja. Primećujemo i da igrači koji su skočili u pejsu na starom sistemu koji je bio poništen, nisu skočili po novom strana 182.
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1259/ID_topic/3438030/pg/197 - primećujemo da je trening definitivno jako usporen i tu kreće hajka i odatle treba da čitate sve do polovine oktobra i njihove konačne kapitulacije
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Sa ove teme strana 6:
2022-10-20 07:05:56
slysly to jazo
Mateja Dunđerski, age: 28, još uvek bez 17 u str-u...
19 direktnih....što je mnogo mnogo je, a usput i forma pala zadnjih par nedelja sa 17 na 9 tako da je pitanje za koliko cu ga prodati....
i par poruka kasnije na istu temu pogledajte sami strana 6.
Tema na forumu isti datum, tri dana pre Raulove nove teme
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1259/ID_topic/3438030/pg/209 - počinje pritisak
2022-10-20 07:05:56
slysly to jazo
Mateja Dunđerski, age: 28, još uvek bez 17 u str-u...
19 direktnih....što je mnogo mnogo je, a usput i forma pala zadnjih par nedelja sa 17 na 9 tako da je pitanje za koliko cu ga prodati....
i par poruka kasnije na istu temu pogledajte sami strana 6.
Tema na forumu isti datum, tri dana pre Raulove nove teme
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/1259/ID_topic/3438030/pg/209 - počinje pritisak
https://sokker.org/forum_topic/ID_forum/63355/ID_topic/3438693/pg/643 - drugi topik 13.10 isti pritisak oko usporenog treninga
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Ako vratite nekoliko stranica nedelja unazad videćete da pišem iste stvari još od onomad.
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2022-10-13 09:34:03
Jckpl to ionutzc
I will worry you, somebody talked to us on our forum,
I quote
that there is no mistake, it was supposed to be like that
which does not mean that such a degree of slowdown will remain because perhaps Raul can be persuaded to reduce it
I only have scraps of information because I cannot be told exactly how the training works, but Raul wrote to me that
By 5% we emphasized the parameter responsible for the slowdown curve - at max levels it may be more than 5%, let's say, it was needed 7 trainings, and now there are 8, but I still think max 20% slowdown on top skills (divine +) and virtually no slowdown on the lows
and his 5% was a known fact, but, at least, I thought that this translates to 5% on the top skill values, not 20%
ultimately it turns out that up to about 11-12 it is max 1-2% slower supposedly, and then it is getting slower and slower until "I think max with 20% slowing down on top skills"
they probably checked a lot of cases (for sure the tsolias) and it turned out that everything works properly, as it was supposed to, according to the formulas
but Raul is still considering or considering reducing the 5% to e.g. 3%
I will throw you some other small information about the age, which I learned from Raul, because it is unfair that a very small group only know about it
With higher skills, this slowdown is already above 5%, with age doing a lot. It is still relatively easy to train an unearthly skill in a 20-year-old boy, but a 24-year-old has learned a bit of this training. (2-3 more?)
From interesting facts (I didn't know, you probably didn't know either) speed has the same baseline of training speed as other skills - but it is more correlated with age - it slows down more and more every year vs other skills, hence it is assumed that you train slower - but in age 16/17 there is practically no difference according to the formulas.
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majti_orion to Jckpl
So, they didn't slow down the training curve much, but they slowed down the age curve?
Same difference, and they didn't lie about slowing down THE TRAINING XD
I can confirm that training of low to mid skills at young age hasn't been slowed down.
My 22yo player gained very good (9) DEF after 3 training weeks.
2022-10-13 09:34:03
Jckpl to ionutzc
I will worry you, somebody talked to us on our forum,
I quote
that there is no mistake, it was supposed to be like that
which does not mean that such a degree of slowdown will remain because perhaps Raul can be persuaded to reduce it
I only have scraps of information because I cannot be told exactly how the training works, but Raul wrote to me that
By 5% we emphasized the parameter responsible for the slowdown curve - at max levels it may be more than 5%, let's say, it was needed 7 trainings, and now there are 8, but I still think max 20% slowdown on top skills (divine +) and virtually no slowdown on the lows
and his 5% was a known fact, but, at least, I thought that this translates to 5% on the top skill values, not 20%
ultimately it turns out that up to about 11-12 it is max 1-2% slower supposedly, and then it is getting slower and slower until "I think max with 20% slowing down on top skills"
they probably checked a lot of cases (for sure the tsolias) and it turned out that everything works properly, as it was supposed to, according to the formulas
but Raul is still considering or considering reducing the 5% to e.g. 3%
I will throw you some other small information about the age, which I learned from Raul, because it is unfair that a very small group only know about it
With higher skills, this slowdown is already above 5%, with age doing a lot. It is still relatively easy to train an unearthly skill in a 20-year-old boy, but a 24-year-old has learned a bit of this training. (2-3 more?)
From interesting facts (I didn't know, you probably didn't know either) speed has the same baseline of training speed as other skills - but it is more correlated with age - it slows down more and more every year vs other skills, hence it is assumed that you train slower - but in age 16/17 there is practically no difference according to the formulas.
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majti_orion to Jckpl
So, they didn't slow down the training curve much, but they slowed down the age curve?
Same difference, and they didn't lie about slowing down THE TRAINING XD
I can confirm that training of low to mid skills at young age hasn't been slowed down.
My 22yo player gained very good (9) DEF after 3 training weeks.
I još samo da dodam da ako pogledate obe teme tog 20.10 shvatićete da sam upravo ja doprineo da se stvari promene i da se ta nova promena treninga značajno ubrza jer su jako hteli da nas zajebu.
Deus ex machina.
QED.
Deus ex machina.
QED.
cao ekipo naidjoh na vas forum :D kako su nam prikacili vas forum u ono obavjestenje poslednje za ove nove kupove :D
i onda pogledah ovaj sa ,,novim trening sistemom,, kako je ova brzina sjebana :D ceram jednog sad vec starca 29 god ima na 17 brz nikako da skoci :D
na 14 brzinu prije cca 100 nedelja skocio je za 6 adv treninga.
na 15 je onda skocio za 3 adv i 21 gt ( sa gt je skocio )
na 16 je onda skocio za 8 adv i 17 gt
a od tada ima 31 gt i 14 adv i dalje je 16 brz :"D zainatio sam se da mu je dignem na 17 i da ga micem iz adv treninga da oslobodim slot za nekog mladog
znam da ocjene posle 28 god padaju ... recimo defovi mi sa 28 god drze tu brzinu 18 osim jednog koji je pao 2 ned nakon sto je skocio na 18.. maler.. i pretpostavljam da najlakse taj 18 skil brz pada posle 28god ali mi vise nervira sad ovaj sto mu treba 2 sezone da skoci na tu brz no ista :D
a po sokker asistentu programu pise da je solidan junior uvijek bio <3.4
i onda pogledah ovaj sa ,,novim trening sistemom,, kako je ova brzina sjebana :D ceram jednog sad vec starca 29 god ima na 17 brz nikako da skoci :D
na 14 brzinu prije cca 100 nedelja skocio je za 6 adv treninga.
na 15 je onda skocio za 3 adv i 21 gt ( sa gt je skocio )
na 16 je onda skocio za 8 adv i 17 gt
a od tada ima 31 gt i 14 adv i dalje je 16 brz :"D zainatio sam se da mu je dignem na 17 i da ga micem iz adv treninga da oslobodim slot za nekog mladog
znam da ocjene posle 28 god padaju ... recimo defovi mi sa 28 god drze tu brzinu 18 osim jednog koji je pao 2 ned nakon sto je skocio na 18.. maler.. i pretpostavljam da najlakse taj 18 skil brz pada posle 28god ali mi vise nervira sad ovaj sto mu treba 2 sezone da skoci na tu brz no ista :D
a po sokker asistentu programu pise da je solidan junior uvijek bio <3.4
Problem sa dohvatanjem te 17-ice je sto od 28. svaki igrac ulazi u pejs ruski rulet i svake nedelje moze da mu otkine vise pejsa nego sto dobija treningom!
cao ekipo naidjoh na vas forum :D kako su nam prikacili vas forum u ono obavjestenje poslednje za ove nove kupove :D
To je zato što koristiš srpski jezik, stavili smo u prevod linkove ka našim forumima, pa si ga i ti dobio.
To je zato što koristiš srpski jezik, stavili smo u prevod linkove ka našim forumima, pa si ga i ti dobio.
@dzungla da da..znam to ali ceram se sa ovim i nikad vise to necu sigurno :"D bas je iritantno..
@majti_orion pa da vidio sam odjednom obavjestenje na nasem a mislio iz prva mi je stiglo na eng :D blago se vama ima vas dosta vise pa imate za koga i pisat sve na forum :"D
@majti_orion pa da vidio sam odjednom obavjestenje na nasem a mislio iz prva mi je stiglo na eng :D blago se vama ima vas dosta vise pa imate za koga i pisat sve na forum :"D