Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

not happy from what i see :( what happen with light js version presented in the past ?

I think that will be a temporary version to replace the current Flash viewer until the new 3D version is ready

The most profitable paid soccer manager game is in pure 2D, and abstract (just circles); so the equation that i heard so much 3D = attractively in term of marketing it's FALSE. Stupid simple graphics sometimes win.

Of course 3D engine could deserve 2D too, the best of both world ?

Nope.

3D CONSUME more ressources, drains battery on mobile, and run very slowly on 'old' machines. UNITY engine is a perfect candidate for that. Setting a false 2D view will not resolve this problems since that's again a 3D engine.

Sokker keep alive during years without any devs for a reason : It was just working. Many users, whatever re their computer, recent or old, could play.

Despite some players who advised against 3D, the choice was made (or it had already been made a long time ago). Just : good luck !

I've seen games with very good and clean 3D viewer. I was defending strongly a GOOD 3D, but keeping current 2D.

If the viewer is like my link, I don't want that 3D, it's obvious (it's horrible).

However, there are other games with good 3D, and that's I was hoping in sokker. I sent to Raul a videogame with a flowing 3D, it was very clean.
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Well making things clean it's hard work (simplicity is hard to achieve), so we can hope, but that's not the question : even "a clean view" in 3D engine consume a lot of resources, and UNITY is well known for this.

I hope it's possible to get a flowing 3D in Unity because in footballstrategy I've never been able to watch a match. I firmly think that it's the worst viewer I've ever seen in all my life (it's stressful).
We need to wait for watching a video because I guess in sokker will work completely different.

Devs are smart and they know what they are doing, so I trust them. They are testing all before so far and they won't change the viewer for the worst. If not I will regret for defending 3D :(.
I like current 2D, and I don't want it to disappear unless it represents an improvement.
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Stupid simple graphics sometimes win

Example: among us

The unity ME of footballstrategy.org was smooth a few years ago, but it was incredibly disconnected to the players stats, so the visual part was not the only problem they had.

https://ibb.co/rs8hgDM

Lol! That looks funny! Somehow the proportions of the size of a player to a field are not right.

They will adjust the sizes.

It looks good though, you can clearly see the formations. I would like the camera to be little higher and further back.
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its to many grass squares. It would be better with 18x11 squares and outside border one color of grass, no squares outside.

I'm really enjoying this FM vibes on game graphics, Hope we have something similar in ME :).

Not alcohol, but indeed, also not the best time for forum posts ;D

Good job devs. It look nice :)

So,no more 2D viewer,why you need to work with some cubes to push the ball??
noone will see this ...rolf.
I hope the 3D will be better,and work fine with tactical option,like this 2D we have now!

"the default camera position will reflect the 2D one"

No worries, the 2D view will still be possible.