Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

at max...though they hope to get there after next season, but also hope it won't exceed the season after next season.

So to say it short... between almost 2 seasons and hopefully less than 4 seasons :-p

bulshit

in 1 year will be other game here, not the sokker that all are full

I bet both my kidneys that they wont do it in 1,5 seasons :)

that might be a good trigger for the devs to step things up :-p

Charles, sorry to say, but you are only one fighting still with final design we prepared. We rather see lot of possitive comments.
So few explanations about it, to give you overview to our decisions.

First of all, our pool was prepared for first aproach to design, it was just an draft of potential directions.
Community decided, that best option is to go into light or dark theme, other ptions where to heavy and messy.

We agreed on it, and finally prepared two proposals based on dark and light motive.

But, as first proposal was only a draft, we started to upgrade them focusing on single details.
Sure, we also used some elements from proposal number 2, but to be honest - vertical headers are probably the only direct idea. Maybe you also think, that color is similar - thats not true, our final proposal is totally new color, and the reason why we decided to use it is, that the first proposal was a bit to sad / grey.

If you are afraid about our design skills - well, it's a individual opinion, but thats my daily job. i'm working with branding and design almost 12 years, and also we hired few talented designers to make final proposals and we are finally happy from result.

Sure, you can still claim its just a crap, but even if - then you need to wait a bit longer, till community will create own design proposals, then you will for sure find something accurate.

(its an answer for your posts & email combined, hope you are fine with that, to keep all in one place:))

Greetings friends, I hope you are well, I wanted to leave here a design that I made based on the new sokker logo, since I like the new update but I wanted to keep the essence of what Sokker means for many old users with the colors that have represented us for a long time, which for many may be the original essence, I hope you like it and it is only representative.

Here the image

He is not the only one who does not like the design. I dont like it either. I just dont care that much, because i can customise it myself.

For me the main problem is that its not clean, you put too much there. I am in the industry for 15 years and the rule was always simplicity.

What do i care about is flash replacement, still waiting :D.
Replacing tactics editor only does not help me at all, if i cant see the match i have no reference for changing the tactics.

But what exactly means too much? All proposals were made from the same elements, if its overloaded then its a feedback more to the UX

I don't see it overloaded, maybe some element but most are important. How would you do? I like simplicity but I like to adapt to current times too, and for that it's necessarry to add more information.

@Raul, will the trophies appear in club page at the end? I don't see in last design...
And about team star I still think that it's more like MVP of last match and not really team star. Team star need more information throughout the season because if not it could change every week.
For me it's more referred to last MVP.

Yes, trophies will be there too.
Final UX of the club page is here:
https://xd.adobe.com/view/5f3a2456-43da-486e-7382-e867e1422a43-290b/screen/1861a9a5-3a96-4ff7-bdd3-80eaf86b9e08/?fullscreen

Its a bit different from graphic design, becouse designers were working with first UX approach, but finally we will implement all infotmations as on the link above.
Only change I’m still thinking about is to move boxes about last games before league table, to not spoiler results.

Is it important to have 7 different background colors? Duplicate information with vertical headings?
These things were added to make the most popular option (1) to look more like the least popular options (2a and 2b). There is also a big border radius now. Why did they do those things? I have no idea.

I am not en expert, but I do have decades of experience in being a smartass :) ... but I don't think that BlueZero is talking about too much game information, but visually, there is too much stuff.

I say they should make a poll focused on the newest design and option 1. If people like the newest design more, I'll shut up. Actually, I'll shut up anyway, there are important things. Let's fast-forward to ME :)

I guess there's no accounting for taste.
I really like much more final design than initial proposals. It's true there are a lot of colors and shades but I think they want to get their own style.
About vertical headings, I like because it's necessary to separate information, or I don't understand what you want to say.

Only change I’m still thinking about is to move boxes about last games before league table, to not spoiler results.

Yes, it's very important not to spoil results. Indeed with more matches per week I would even hide the last two results at least.

I agree that there is too much information on the main club page. I feel overloaded by that, by the number of different backgrounds and by the vertical text. I am no expert either, this is just ordinary user's view.

This is exactly what i mean (slavista's message).

@Raul

Maybe less stuff on club page, but link there for club page detailed. And there add all stuff you planned or more.
Keep it simple, i might just want to send friendly game invitation to a club, i dont care about all info there, maybe i just want to know his ranking or if he is available for friendly at all.
Please this 2nd would be good improvement, sometimes you click for invitation, but no terms available, so maybe some indicator on page, before this click would be appriciated :)