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Maybe less stuff on club page, but link there for club page detailed. And there add all stuff you planned or more.
Keep it simple, i might just want to send friendly game invitation to a club, i dont care about all info there, maybe i just want to know his ranking or if he is available for friendly at all.
Please this 2nd would be good improvement, sometimes you click for invitation, but no terms available, so maybe some indicator on page, before this click would be appriciated :)
Keep it simple, i might just want to send friendly game invitation to a club, i dont care about all info there, maybe i just want to know his ranking or if he is available for friendly at all.
Please this 2nd would be good improvement, sometimes you click for invitation, but no terms available, so maybe some indicator on page, before this click would be appriciated :)
I agree that there is too much information on the main club page.
'Main page' is an overview page, it makes sense to find 'too much' information. It's an entry point for all the pages (as i understand), but you we use the menu to go directly to any pages without having to read/use this whole main page.
'Main page' is an overview page, it makes sense to find 'too much' information. It's an entry point for all the pages (as i understand), but you we use the menu to go directly to any pages without having to read/use this whole main page.
I like this design for the logo, keeps the Sokker brand with the traditional colors while going for a more modern look. Maybe something like this can be used for a "classic" skin.
It never makes sense to have too much information on a page.
Too much information is one of the main reasons people are immediatelly clicking away from a page, simply because they can't find the information they need. Their minds can't cope with all the information at hand.
You can have a lot of information on that page. That's no problem. But structure it very well, so that the brain of a person can deal with all the information.
And I'm sorry to say @Raul, but if you're already 12 year in the business AND you're working with a UX expert... Maybe get some 2nd opinions then, because UX wise it's not a good design.
Too much information is one of the main reasons people are immediatelly clicking away from a page, simply because they can't find the information they need. Their minds can't cope with all the information at hand.
You can have a lot of information on that page. That's no problem. But structure it very well, so that the brain of a person can deal with all the information.
And I'm sorry to say @Raul, but if you're already 12 year in the business AND you're working with a UX expert... Maybe get some 2nd opinions then, because UX wise it's not a good design.
'Main page' is an overview page, it makes sense to find 'too much' information. It's an entry point for all the pages (as i understand), but you we use the menu to go directly to any pages without having to read/use this whole main page.
Take a look at the left navigation, there is a link for the overview page, this is club page.
Take a look at the left navigation, there is a link for the overview page, this is club page.
Well you are right, and I remember asking me the question: why not merging "main club" and "overview page" both seems to be for the same purpose, right? But it seems not. That s very confusing.
Im agree with @jeetn too, Architecture is very confusing into this "mockups"
UX is the current buzz word, we can put everything into UX... But In my experience we need to ban visual and user interaction design first and focus on information architecture only first. The actual mockups are already too much visual and dont show any evidence in term of information architecture. we dont know "where to go", "where we are" or "where to find". 4 navigation menu, 4! That's already a bad User experience.
Im agree with @jeetn too, Architecture is very confusing into this "mockups"
UX is the current buzz word, we can put everything into UX... But In my experience we need to ban visual and user interaction design first and focus on information architecture only first. The actual mockups are already too much visual and dont show any evidence in term of information architecture. we dont know "where to go", "where we are" or "where to find". 4 navigation menu, 4! That's already a bad User experience.
two different goals for each pages.
1. club page is an overview of any sokker team - your own, or rival. so it need to look the same, so, its an upgrade of that view: https://sokker.org/glowna its build from informations that everyone can find about you (or opponent).
2. overview page will ge new view, a page with shortcut to most important actions, including also reminders about actions you should take in the game (like training or squad selection). it will also include internal informations about your club, that none other users know about (like your finances).
1. club page is an overview of any sokker team - your own, or rival. so it need to look the same, so, its an upgrade of that view: https://sokker.org/glowna its build from informations that everyone can find about you (or opponent).
2. overview page will ge new view, a page with shortcut to most important actions, including also reminders about actions you should take in the game (like training or squad selection). it will also include internal informations about your club, that none other users know about (like your finances).
Well ok i understand, but its remain confuse since the mockup are not contextual (login user/ not login / coach login...), and the words doesn't reflect the content.
1. 'My club" (aka https://sokker.org/glowna) :
- In your mockup that's - literally- an overview, a mix of informations for public. Thats confusing because (the coach) see another 'overview' link/page in its menu...
- We expected information is for coach only (the "MY club") . That's not the case, it's public.
2. I have no idea whats the "overview" page contain (i miss a mockup?) , but if that's mainly 'notification' for "next important action" it's should be rename to reflect that. Or it could be renamed "MY club" because all the actions are dedicated to coach.
In my opinion both pages cloud be merged to avoid confusion, Information should be displayed differently depending on the context (A coach user dont need the "box owner information" for example, but need "next actions" informations ...)
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1. 'My club" (aka https://sokker.org/glowna) :
- In your mockup that's - literally- an overview, a mix of informations for public. Thats confusing because (the coach) see another 'overview' link/page in its menu...
- We expected information is for coach only (the "MY club") . That's not the case, it's public.
2. I have no idea whats the "overview" page contain (i miss a mockup?) , but if that's mainly 'notification' for "next important action" it's should be rename to reflect that. Or it could be renamed "MY club" because all the actions are dedicated to coach.
In my opinion both pages cloud be merged to avoid confusion, Information should be displayed differently depending on the context (A coach user dont need the "box owner information" for example, but need "next actions" informations ...)
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take a look, here is overview:
https://xd.adobe.com/view/3cf4a5be-3f89-4703-b36c-e2d6dce78584-69a7/?fullscreen
And that will be first page you see after login.
its something different than just a club page - club page is an "business card" of each club.
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https://xd.adobe.com/view/3cf4a5be-3f89-4703-b36c-e2d6dce78584-69a7/?fullscreen
And that will be first page you see after login.
its something different than just a club page - club page is an "business card" of each club.
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ok its make sense.
But its remain confusing for the reasons i expose. Another example, "My club", in your mockup is more than an entry page to manage its team (the top sub-menu "squad, juniors..." appear in "my club" mockup, not in this "overview" starting page : that doesn't make sense). I think when (we) talk about too much informations, it's not because we ve got "too much" but because navigation is not clear, content are confusing or irrelevant in the (page) context.
But its remain confusing for the reasons i expose. Another example, "My club", in your mockup is more than an entry page to manage its team (the top sub-menu "squad, juniors..." appear in "my club" mockup, not in this "overview" starting page : that doesn't make sense). I think when (we) talk about too much informations, it's not because we ve got "too much" but because navigation is not clear, content are confusing or irrelevant in the (page) context.
So you want to create a dashboard for each user? Will you allow the user to modify that dashboard (overview) to his / her needs?
For example rearranging the 'widgets', removing some 'widgets', choosing the size of the widget...
Edit: Having a closer look at the mockup tells me that's not really the case. You'll add some sort of hiding button allowing the users to show / hide a 'widget'.
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For example rearranging the 'widgets', removing some 'widgets', choosing the size of the widget...
Edit: Having a closer look at the mockup tells me that's not really the case. You'll add some sort of hiding button allowing the users to show / hide a 'widget'.
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navigation is work in progress, dont care too much about all tabs there - but it will work like it is now - when you open someone's club page, you can move deeper - like find his players, or transfers. that will work similar as it is now.
So, presented view is a business card of a club, and you can use tabs to get more info about that club (squad, transfers, or statistics).
So, presented view is a business card of a club, and you can use tabs to get more info about that club (squad, transfers, or statistics).
Hopefully yes - but we are not sure it will be possible from the start, according to $$$.
take a look, here is overview:
https://xd.adobe.com/view/3cf4a5be-3f89-4703-b36c-e2d6dce78584-69a7/?fullscreen
And that will be first page you see after login.
its something different than just a club page - club page is an "business card" of each club.
First, the club page will not be the same as you look at it and someone else look at it. That should be atleast 90%, my opinion
Left side it seems ok, but when you scroll down its lost, i think it should be fixed. Also maybe someone already asked, what is season and community there. I see forum on other place, so i guess you dont want to call same stuff different name.
week 6 season 46 its information in mid section. week 6 you already have in left menu, season 46 is not same for all countries, so i would link it somewhere else.
information about moneys regarding sponsors, youth and stadium. I really dont know why i need to see this every time i log in.
Then i dont know if this table is short overview of top 4 teams, or you are in league of 4...
information season 46 is 2nd time on page
bellow league and press room i dont need none of this from on the overview page.
What i miss is my country, my region, join date. I miss game before last match.
While i have league VI.0656 3 times at least.
And why do i need how to play ?
Please, you dont have to do it, but i would like to see it simple and without double. Basic infos with links.
https://xd.adobe.com/view/3cf4a5be-3f89-4703-b36c-e2d6dce78584-69a7/?fullscreen
And that will be first page you see after login.
its something different than just a club page - club page is an "business card" of each club.
First, the club page will not be the same as you look at it and someone else look at it. That should be atleast 90%, my opinion
Left side it seems ok, but when you scroll down its lost, i think it should be fixed. Also maybe someone already asked, what is season and community there. I see forum on other place, so i guess you dont want to call same stuff different name.
week 6 season 46 its information in mid section. week 6 you already have in left menu, season 46 is not same for all countries, so i would link it somewhere else.
information about moneys regarding sponsors, youth and stadium. I really dont know why i need to see this every time i log in.
Then i dont know if this table is short overview of top 4 teams, or you are in league of 4...
information season 46 is 2nd time on page
bellow league and press room i dont need none of this from on the overview page.
What i miss is my country, my region, join date. I miss game before last match.
While i have league VI.0656 3 times at least.
And why do i need how to play ?
Please, you dont have to do it, but i would like to see it simple and without double. Basic infos with links.
