Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

Make 2 versions. One slow one fast :-P.

Just please dont allow to get faster to the top by trading. Its like pay to win, where payment currency is time (or programming skills :D).

-1 this is not a game for kids faster game will kill the game.

This game is never gonna reach younger generations because it is never gonna be mobile-friendly. Instead of developing an app and focusing on a simple viewer (2D) and making it well optimized, they are throwing money on 3D again.

I also have to mention how crazy they are about banning people. You can't play with your friends properly. You want to be able to trade with your friends, you want to be able to log in in a cafe, at work, or at someone's home and not get banned because someone who you traded with used the same IP address once.

You have to reach the current generation also otherwise this game will be killed.
I worked for several big companies in the past ( and on this moment ) and if you don't reach a New generation you will not manage to stay alive for a long time. This is how it works in life.

-1 this is not a game for kids faster game will kill the game.

+1 there are a lot of faster manager games. 2 matches per week will be good, neither too fast nor too slow. More matches would be overwhelming like other faster games that I never play more than one week. They have many downloads but few users remain because you can't rest a day.
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If you don't reach any kid untill the age of 18y this game will not grow fast.
People between 20y and 30y are the New and faster generation also, so growing is almost impossible if we are dependant of 30y and above only. Other problem, People between 30y and 45y are too busy with kids and work.., So good Luck with the People above 45y ;) I am one of the persons of the last category ( 49y) and half of the managers in my country are also...

At the moment this is a game for old People Who will retire in the near future.
But of course it is a choice to stay this way, I like it!!! But I am afraid of the near future.
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I want to say my opinion about this.
Sokker is not for everyone,when Hattrick was with 2 million ppl sokker was with 70000!
This is a kind of Chest game trying to simulate the real football as it is in the field
after a tactical preparation and some ways to train a player.

Kids wil not stay not only in this game but in any game for a long time.
And about money,noone will use them if he is not active.
I dont say no to a faster playgame.

But sokker must stay as it is now,and must be advertised like this.
This is a way to attract new users,and to be honest the best way is
often updates and better playgame.

Of course young people wont stay in a game for a long time, but you must attract them again and again. That is the reason you need New things in this game every year. Standing still kills all.
You need people that stay for a long time, but ( even more important), you need to attract New people again and again also.

You have to look over and over at the current market what to do, otherwise no chance.
Example: kodak was a very big company selling photo rolls, they did well in the whole word. But than things changed, they forgot people want memories instead of photo rolls...and in the current market you don't need photo rolls anymore to create a photo.
Lets look at Sokker, quests did attract people in the past, so sokker was succesfull. But...now the word in games is faster and is full of possibilities, not quests only.
So you have to create a game that has more in it than a quest.

Of course still we can keep it this way without big changes, I really like it!!!!
But don't expect sokker to grow than.
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I agree in general,
i just say the game must keep all those parts they attract us,and improve them further.

it is a fact that if we don't reach for the younger ages the game will not grow very big in users but we have to think that sokker has a big difference from other relevant games. the tactical editor comes from a different age but it is also much more efficient if you want to create a more effective tactic. also this makes the game more difficult..which may be a reason for new users (especially the younger ones) to abandon the game when they discover it.

in my opinion the game must stay as it is because it has a different character from other games and get really more and more advertised in sport sites but maybe some things can change in order to help the new users survive.

For example the devs can improve the preset tactics and they can give to the newcomers something more than 22 trash players in the beginning. also some welcoming introduction with tasks that help to get to know the game would not be a bad idea and finally definitely a proper app for smartphones that can also send notifications for important events, transfers etc would be a clever thing to invest money into
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There was faster version of sokker it died already don't kill this one as well

And off course a well balanced tutorial is key! This game still has features so well hidden for even the most experienced users, that it might feel like a maze for new users.
I have confidence the game will grow, once the proper updates and game changes have been implemented AND decent promoting has been done. But as many said before... The pace our youngsters play games these days is far too fast for a game like this. It will for sure be key to convince them, to guide them, help them, motivate them and give them the proper tools and starting features so they can enjoy the game from the first instant they log-in for the first time.

Challenging, to say the least!

Improved graphics will help, and also beeing able to train each player differently, like putting him in a slot and selecting tehnique training, and another player in another slot and selecting pace training. 10 players slots for tehnique, defending, playmaking, passing. 22 or 30 for pace, or stamina 2 for gk, and 6 for att. these are the max you can train right now by playing them 1 game/week. We will see how things work...

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Without any reason lol.
Why not?

This game is not for children.

We have to improve and try to overcome HT.
This game has a lot of potential, but it was abandoned and therefore lost its users.
Current users are the ones who know the game the most and know its defects, if you please current users you will recover old users and "steal" or share HT users.

The thought cannot be to search for users with a different profile, as they will never be satisfied here. It is a big mistake.