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This game is not for children.
We have to improve and try to overcome HT.
This game has a lot of potential, but it was abandoned and therefore lost its users.
Current users are the ones who know the game the most and know its defects, if you please current users you will recover old users and "steal" or share HT users.
The thought cannot be to search for users with a different profile, as they will never be satisfied here. It is a big mistake.
We have to improve and try to overcome HT.
This game has a lot of potential, but it was abandoned and therefore lost its users.
Current users are the ones who know the game the most and know its defects, if you please current users you will recover old users and "steal" or share HT users.
The thought cannot be to search for users with a different profile, as they will never be satisfied here. It is a big mistake.
This game is not for children.
That's a bit harsh... Not all children are fortnite minded... (though lots are)
Try to overcome hattrick? Dunno if that's possible... Even without development, this game is miles ahead of HT, yet lightyears behind on users... I really don't understand what's the big thrill in looking 110 minutes to your screen, hoping a pop-up enters your screen saying something happened within the match...
Also the training in HT goes 2 to 3 times slower. And then there's the youth system.
Only if your player has the maximum skill in PM or DEF and comes into the game at 17.0 years old AND at the right time, he will be U21/NT player cause ALL players have the exact same talent... BOOOOringggggg!!!
That's a bit harsh... Not all children are fortnite minded... (though lots are)
Try to overcome hattrick? Dunno if that's possible... Even without development, this game is miles ahead of HT, yet lightyears behind on users... I really don't understand what's the big thrill in looking 110 minutes to your screen, hoping a pop-up enters your screen saying something happened within the match...
Also the training in HT goes 2 to 3 times slower. And then there's the youth system.
Only if your player has the maximum skill in PM or DEF and comes into the game at 17.0 years old AND at the right time, he will be U21/NT player cause ALL players have the exact same talent... BOOOOringggggg!!!
You don't get the point, that is the reason I mentioned the New generation, the whole current generation untill 30y is what i mean,
Well, I played HT long long time ago for a couple of seasons, then I started in sk and it is way much better; but recently I just went to that page how it looks and its much more friendly in many ways. If I dont know sk or HT but I register on both of them, I would probably abandon sk immediatly, the ux is so bad in sk.
I dont need to log in and ht is already telling me 8k users connected now.
I think devs are doing a good job, sk needs to change a lot of things, but they must planned very well and depends on what to change, there should be short, medium and long time changes...... For example, I dont want to wake up tomorrow and find an improved sk page but will be a almost new game.
Very important some things that have mentioned here, the ux and the begginer's tutorial, if you dont do things properly with your first budget, it would be very difficult to recover.
I dont need to log in and ht is already telling me 8k users connected now.
I think devs are doing a good job, sk needs to change a lot of things, but they must planned very well and depends on what to change, there should be short, medium and long time changes...... For example, I dont want to wake up tomorrow and find an improved sk page but will be a almost new game.
Very important some things that have mentioned here, the ux and the begginer's tutorial, if you dont do things properly with your first budget, it would be very difficult to recover.
The match simulator at Sokker is magnificent, however with the initial players it is not at all pleasant.
As I see it, level 6 below should be exterminated.
Starting players. and juniors should have a much better level.
For me the ideal would be to train juniors from 18 to 21 years old as training professionals, but in a U21 team.
As I see it, level 6 below should be exterminated.
Starting players. and juniors should have a much better level.
For me the ideal would be to train juniors from 18 to 21 years old as training professionals, but in a U21 team.
This game is not for children.
lol, so the admins will ignore a potential to make money, only because they are childrens? Nice one.
This game has a lot of potential, but it was abandoned and therefore lost its users.
had*. If you think changing things will bring all the players that left back, you're wrong.
If you think that only you, and a few old players can play the game, you're again wrong. And trying to do things only for the old players, the game will die slowly.
As I said before, it's not only sokker that died in the last years. Compare it with other web browser based games (not only soccer games), and you'll have a surprise. All the games lost users. Some of them even had upgrades and changes during the years, but they still lost players.
And of course, if you want a good product, you want that product to go to as much people as you can. It does not matter they are 45yo, or they are 18yo.
Why? As we get older, we'll lack of time. So the game should be passed to the younger ones. Of course that does not mean that sokker should be ALL changed. No, but everything should be changed with some ideas in mind, not only change the things to have something new and that's it. This isn't how things are working, but we'll stay here, and we'll see what will come after all the changes :)
lol, so the admins will ignore a potential to make money, only because they are childrens? Nice one.
This game has a lot of potential, but it was abandoned and therefore lost its users.
had*. If you think changing things will bring all the players that left back, you're wrong.
If you think that only you, and a few old players can play the game, you're again wrong. And trying to do things only for the old players, the game will die slowly.
As I said before, it's not only sokker that died in the last years. Compare it with other web browser based games (not only soccer games), and you'll have a surprise. All the games lost users. Some of them even had upgrades and changes during the years, but they still lost players.
And of course, if you want a good product, you want that product to go to as much people as you can. It does not matter they are 45yo, or they are 18yo.
Why? As we get older, we'll lack of time. So the game should be passed to the younger ones. Of course that does not mean that sokker should be ALL changed. No, but everything should be changed with some ideas in mind, not only change the things to have something new and that's it. This isn't how things are working, but we'll stay here, and we'll see what will come after all the changes :)
Thank you, this is the way it is.
Of course people don't want to hear this, but it is a fact, sokker has to change and has to be interesting for the younger generation.
If you will ignore this you don't understand market and dead is coming.
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Of course people don't want to hear this, but it is a fact, sokker has to change and has to be interesting for the younger generation.
If you will ignore this you don't understand market and dead is coming.
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keeping this game for old farts it will be right for me and for old users,and that will be ok,changing the game 180 ° ,MAYBE,will bring new generation,but i ll doubt,there are millions of fast game right there.
So,it depends what devs want,a total new game wicth for old farts it will be the end (100% i will not play a fast game) or a complete new fast coin rush game witch can be risky.
My opinion is that the game should remain a select one, especially not for everyone, for the old farts. who have a salary and can pay a poor PLUS.
So,it depends what devs want,a total new game wicth for old farts it will be the end (100% i will not play a fast game) or a complete new fast coin rush game witch can be risky.
My opinion is that the game should remain a select one, especially not for everyone, for the old farts. who have a salary and can pay a poor PLUS.
lol, so the admins will ignore a potential to make money, only because they are childrens?
There is no such potential.
If you think changing things will bring all the players that left back, you're wrong.
Here in Brazil several users came back just because they knew there would be changes.
I played HT for a while and Sokker's EM is much better. With affection we can make this game much better than HT and one day have more users.
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There is no such potential.
If you think changing things will bring all the players that left back, you're wrong.
Here in Brazil several users came back just because they knew there would be changes.
I played HT for a while and Sokker's EM is much better. With affection we can make this game much better than HT and one day have more users.
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Word of mouth was one of the ways sokker reached 70k users 10 years ago. Hattrick had a million I think.
Apart from returning users, most newbies are highly likely to only login once and then abandon.
I am sure the devs are trying to fix that but it's certainly not an easy task.
This is a web browser game and you need a desktop computer to properly play (in a world where hand-held device is the norm)
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Apart from returning users, most newbies are highly likely to only login once and then abandon.
I am sure the devs are trying to fix that but it's certainly not an easy task.
This is a web browser game and you need a desktop computer to properly play (in a world where hand-held device is the norm)
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You will not stay and neither will new users.
We have to make a good game for those who like this type of game.
We have to make a good game for those who like this type of game.
The game needs to evolve in this direction.
Be a more accessible, more beautiful game, with better navigation. More explanatory, the Sokker is full of secrets, you need to give numbers in the training rules for example.
It is necessary to have more competitions, more champions, more winning teams in the season (classification for continental competitions for example), but the essence of the game cannot be changed, it is not possible to please everyone and if you try to do that you will not please anyone .
Be a more accessible, more beautiful game, with better navigation. More explanatory, the Sokker is full of secrets, you need to give numbers in the training rules for example.
It is necessary to have more competitions, more champions, more winning teams in the season (classification for continental competitions for example), but the essence of the game cannot be changed, it is not possible to please everyone and if you try to do that you will not please anyone .
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Game was with games every day after few seasons 22 days season you get bored cause you do not focus on tactics but just sub the injuries and cards and they were a lot ...
After you miss few games per season you get bored and you give up...
So is that what we want here just short term users to do lineups ? No thanks ...
Is property of half of owners of sokker
Game was with games every day after few seasons 22 days season you get bored cause you do not focus on tactics but just sub the injuries and cards and they were a lot ...
After you miss few games per season you get bored and you give up...
So is that what we want here just short term users to do lineups ? No thanks ...
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users who want fast play will not stay for long anyway. So the only good from that would be the stats:
"Yay! we have 100 000 users. Hooray!"
and then in small font:
(only 1000 accounts are older than 1 month)
We want users that are interested to stay longer in the game. To master the tactics (not like me :D). Tactics should be the way to top, not trading. Tactics should be rewarded more. Promotion money for example? But balances so one does not promote and relegate every other season.
users who want fast play will not stay for long anyway. So the only good from that would be the stats:
"Yay! we have 100 000 users. Hooray!"
and then in small font:
(only 1000 accounts are older than 1 month)
We want users that are interested to stay longer in the game. To master the tactics (not like me :D). Tactics should be the way to top, not trading. Tactics should be rewarded more. Promotion money for example? But balances so one does not promote and relegate every other season.