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you have to be aware, at this moment the experience with the game as a whole is primitive and also, the patience of many of us is at the limit.
The fact that we do not have simple tools for navigating the site is unacceptable, we support the cause by buying PLUS, but how long do we wait?
The fact that we do not have simple tools for navigating the site is unacceptable, we support the cause by buying PLUS, but how long do we wait?
In general, I'm missing a clear strategy how you want to position Sokker in competition with other manager games. The main advantages of Sokker are a)graphic match simulation, b)long term strategy and c)complex tactics. All of those are rather weakened instead of strengthened with the changes.
Ironically, a main competitor is now advertising with the fact that they have only one league round per week. I don't think 2 will help you compete with faster games, it's just an unhappy compromise. But okay, if you made up your mind about that, you should first introduce an easier tactics editor. Most managers won't have time to adapt tactics for 11 league opponents and 2 matches per week, so Sokker will be dead as a tactics game. An editor that makes it faster to create tactics would be a big improvement.
Having a lot of users on mobile devices is another reason this is important, since the current tactics editor is not suitable for mobile. Besides, since the matches are rather unwatchable with this engine (and in fact many managers don't even watch them anymore), having more matches isn't really an improvement until there's a better engine. Having the new league system before improving tactics editor and engine seems the wrong order.
Ironically, a main competitor is now advertising with the fact that they have only one league round per week. I don't think 2 will help you compete with faster games, it's just an unhappy compromise. But okay, if you made up your mind about that, you should first introduce an easier tactics editor. Most managers won't have time to adapt tactics for 11 league opponents and 2 matches per week, so Sokker will be dead as a tactics game. An editor that makes it faster to create tactics would be a big improvement.
Having a lot of users on mobile devices is another reason this is important, since the current tactics editor is not suitable for mobile. Besides, since the matches are rather unwatchable with this engine (and in fact many managers don't even watch them anymore), having more matches isn't really an improvement until there's a better engine. Having the new league system before improving tactics editor and engine seems the wrong order.
Having the new league system before improving tactics editor and engine seems the wrong order.
Completely agree
Completely agree
yep, morons!
- Raul could you please explain your comment?!
If you don't like what people write just shut down the topic!
I'm not a sensitive guy, I do my share of swearing and insulting but I do it OFFLINE. Every time I made a small joke, or a slightly deviated comment , my behavior was penalised... I hope you have a good explanation for making us "morons"!
- Raul could you please explain your comment?!
If you don't like what people write just shut down the topic!
I'm not a sensitive guy, I do my share of swearing and insulting but I do it OFFLINE. Every time I made a small joke, or a slightly deviated comment , my behavior was penalised... I hope you have a good explanation for making us "morons"!
he was refering to them(devs)! ...as a joke,but not to us,try to understand the context!
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Try to read properly...(and I quote), You moron! :-p
Lol...indeed the self-sarcastic manner :-))
Lol...indeed the self-sarcastic manner :-))
Observation:
One click additional after login to entry a team main page, Lousy user experience.
One click additional after login to entry a team main page, Lousy user experience.
It's a cool page for new users to come to, but indeed, existing users don't have any need to it...
Seriously? Wtf, it's great.
Sorry if there is an "/ironic" hidden.
Sorry if there is an "/ironic" hidden.
The fact that we do not have simple tools for navigating the site is unacceptable
what do you exactly mean here?
what do you exactly mean here?
its quite simple to be honest - we have few main problems:
1. game is completly out of date, game code is old and need to be rewritten to allow us futher development. --> decision: we need to introduce new page, with new interface, to have new code and good base for futher development. It's a top priority.
2. advanced game options could be improved (as main advantages, tactics for example) --> sure, we would to, but match engine & visualization is almost the same complicated part as the rest of game (interface & club management). we need to take one of it first - page was in much worse condition than match engine, as you said - we all like Sokker for tactical aspects.
3. match visualizaction could be better --> again, we were forced to do it according to flash problem, but we invested for now minimum effort, visualization will be developed in the future, but for now we need to focus on page development.
There is a gap between needs of current users (you like the game, so you want new, more advanced options) vs. new users - for many new users old page view, poor UX and only one game per week (official one, as most of them are starting after being eliminated from the cup) its not an engaging start.
Anyway, first we need to rewrite whole game - old code is not an option to work with, thats why we will change site by site. Maybe it looks like only making game more modern or stylish, but with every single page we are thinking about both type of users - to make it easy to learn for new one, and improve page experience for old one (as for example new transfers are much better than office list).
After that - we will be excited to finally work with match engine and tactical editor. we will get there, but it require years to finish all changes we plan.
1. game is completly out of date, game code is old and need to be rewritten to allow us futher development. --> decision: we need to introduce new page, with new interface, to have new code and good base for futher development. It's a top priority.
2. advanced game options could be improved (as main advantages, tactics for example) --> sure, we would to, but match engine & visualization is almost the same complicated part as the rest of game (interface & club management). we need to take one of it first - page was in much worse condition than match engine, as you said - we all like Sokker for tactical aspects.
3. match visualizaction could be better --> again, we were forced to do it according to flash problem, but we invested for now minimum effort, visualization will be developed in the future, but for now we need to focus on page development.
There is a gap between needs of current users (you like the game, so you want new, more advanced options) vs. new users - for many new users old page view, poor UX and only one game per week (official one, as most of them are starting after being eliminated from the cup) its not an engaging start.
Anyway, first we need to rewrite whole game - old code is not an option to work with, thats why we will change site by site. Maybe it looks like only making game more modern or stylish, but with every single page we are thinking about both type of users - to make it easy to learn for new one, and improve page experience for old one (as for example new transfers are much better than office list).
After that - we will be excited to finally work with match engine and tactical editor. we will get there, but it require years to finish all changes we plan.