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its quite simple to be honest - we have few main problems:
1. game is completly out of date, game code is old and need to be rewritten to allow us futher development. --> decision: we need to introduce new page, with new interface, to have new code and good base for futher development. It's a top priority.
2. advanced game options could be improved (as main advantages, tactics for example) --> sure, we would to, but match engine & visualization is almost the same complicated part as the rest of game (interface & club management). we need to take one of it first - page was in much worse condition than match engine, as you said - we all like Sokker for tactical aspects.
3. match visualizaction could be better --> again, we were forced to do it according to flash problem, but we invested for now minimum effort, visualization will be developed in the future, but for now we need to focus on page development.
There is a gap between needs of current users (you like the game, so you want new, more advanced options) vs. new users - for many new users old page view, poor UX and only one game per week (official one, as most of them are starting after being eliminated from the cup) its not an engaging start.
Anyway, first we need to rewrite whole game - old code is not an option to work with, thats why we will change site by site. Maybe it looks like only making game more modern or stylish, but with every single page we are thinking about both type of users - to make it easy to learn for new one, and improve page experience for old one (as for example new transfers are much better than office list).
After that - we will be excited to finally work with match engine and tactical editor. we will get there, but it require years to finish all changes we plan.
1. game is completly out of date, game code is old and need to be rewritten to allow us futher development. --> decision: we need to introduce new page, with new interface, to have new code and good base for futher development. It's a top priority.
2. advanced game options could be improved (as main advantages, tactics for example) --> sure, we would to, but match engine & visualization is almost the same complicated part as the rest of game (interface & club management). we need to take one of it first - page was in much worse condition than match engine, as you said - we all like Sokker for tactical aspects.
3. match visualizaction could be better --> again, we were forced to do it according to flash problem, but we invested for now minimum effort, visualization will be developed in the future, but for now we need to focus on page development.
There is a gap between needs of current users (you like the game, so you want new, more advanced options) vs. new users - for many new users old page view, poor UX and only one game per week (official one, as most of them are starting after being eliminated from the cup) its not an engaging start.
Anyway, first we need to rewrite whole game - old code is not an option to work with, thats why we will change site by site. Maybe it looks like only making game more modern or stylish, but with every single page we are thinking about both type of users - to make it easy to learn for new one, and improve page experience for old one (as for example new transfers are much better than office list).
After that - we will be excited to finally work with match engine and tactical editor. we will get there, but it require years to finish all changes we plan.
(as for example new transfers are much better than office list).
I disagree with a lot of things. I hardly use any new pages, they are much worse than the old ones.
I disagree with a lot of things. I hardly use any new pages, they are much worse than the old ones.
Transfer page and training page are better than old ones imo. Easier to use. You can follow lots of player and bid at the same time without navigating or opening 3-4 tabs. Training reports SV style inside sokker is great
What's happening is we are familiar with old pages. Give it an opportunity
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What's happening is we are familiar with old pages. Give it an opportunity
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No my friend.
I'm not talking about the new features. They are interesting.
But it's a lot of visual pollution, too many colors, too many buttons. It is extremely unpleasant to browse new pages.
I'm not talking about the new features. They are interesting.
But it's a lot of visual pollution, too many colors, too many buttons. It is extremely unpleasant to browse new pages.
I hate it all so much.
It's my opinion and that of several friends. Of course, there are those who like it.
I like a CLEAN look.
Although I don't like the new layout, the image below is much more pleasing to the eye.
Well, its a matter of taste, but player flags and $ icon are important information on this view.
Hi, well I am talking about extra click, the page looks great but tell me how many pages have same flow?
This can be confusing to some users, I say this because the books that I have read about user experience.
This can be confusing to some users, I say this because the books that I have read about user experience.
Well, to me is excellent... allows you to find everything related to transfers on a single page and follow the updates live.
Maybe colors but improves usability
Maybe colors but improves usability
Ok we are talking about different things. You don't like visual appearance. Thats your feeling and I respect it ofc.
At neanderthal sokker, Greg let us to modify the front with personal skins. I think that will be impossible to do it in the future but I remember it with tears in my eyes xD
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At neanderthal sokker, Greg let us to modify the front with personal skins. I think that will be impossible to do it in the future but I remember it with tears in my eyes xD
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its quite simple to be honest - we have few main problems:
1. game is completly out of date, game code is old and need to be rewritten to allow us futher development. --> decision: we need to introduce new page, with new interface, to have new code and good base for futher development. It's a top priority.
2. advanced game options could be improved (as main advantages, tactics for example) --> sure, we would to, but match engine & visualization is almost the same complicated part as the rest of game (interface & club management). we need to take one of it first - page was in much worse condition than match engine, as you said - we all like Sokker for tactical aspects.
3. match visualizaction could be better --> again, we were forced to do it according to flash problem, but we invested for now minimum effort, visualization will be developed in the future, but for now we need to focus on page development.
There is a gap between needs of current users (you like the game, so you want new, more advanced options) vs. new users - for many new users old page view, poor UX and only one game per week (official one, as most of them are starting after being eliminated from the cup) its not an engaging start.
Anyway, first we need to rewrite whole game - old code is not an option to work with, thats why we will change site by site. Maybe it looks like only making game more modern or stylish, but with every single page we are thinking about both type of users - to make it easy to learn for new one, and improve page experience for old one (as for example new transfers are much better than office list).
After that - we will be excited to finally work with match engine and tactical editor. we will get there, but it require years to finish all changes we plan.
Hi. I think this was to be expected, they had to rewrite the code due to its age. That they are passing some functionality from static (page reload) to dynamic (javascript) seems like a success to me.
I can't say much about design, I'm terrible at contrasting colors XD
Personally, my great hope is the change in the training system, for the rest of things I think it is a matter of being patient.
I think it is important that you keep something in mind, any flow in the game please explain it well in the manual, the one we have right now is deficient and leaves many concepts to the imagination.
Regards
1. game is completly out of date, game code is old and need to be rewritten to allow us futher development. --> decision: we need to introduce new page, with new interface, to have new code and good base for futher development. It's a top priority.
2. advanced game options could be improved (as main advantages, tactics for example) --> sure, we would to, but match engine & visualization is almost the same complicated part as the rest of game (interface & club management). we need to take one of it first - page was in much worse condition than match engine, as you said - we all like Sokker for tactical aspects.
3. match visualizaction could be better --> again, we were forced to do it according to flash problem, but we invested for now minimum effort, visualization will be developed in the future, but for now we need to focus on page development.
There is a gap between needs of current users (you like the game, so you want new, more advanced options) vs. new users - for many new users old page view, poor UX and only one game per week (official one, as most of them are starting after being eliminated from the cup) its not an engaging start.
Anyway, first we need to rewrite whole game - old code is not an option to work with, thats why we will change site by site. Maybe it looks like only making game more modern or stylish, but with every single page we are thinking about both type of users - to make it easy to learn for new one, and improve page experience for old one (as for example new transfers are much better than office list).
After that - we will be excited to finally work with match engine and tactical editor. we will get there, but it require years to finish all changes we plan.
Hi. I think this was to be expected, they had to rewrite the code due to its age. That they are passing some functionality from static (page reload) to dynamic (javascript) seems like a success to me.
I can't say much about design, I'm terrible at contrasting colors XD
Personally, my great hope is the change in the training system, for the rest of things I think it is a matter of being patient.
I think it is important that you keep something in mind, any flow in the game please explain it well in the manual, the one we have right now is deficient and leaves many concepts to the imagination.
Regards
As a new user, I disagree with your opinions and protest the game.
we need to develop manual for sure, but its also a thing that need to wait untill more pages will be rewritten - it should be an integral part of the game, each time when new user will visit some new page he should get some key tips as pop ups, and have a chance to get more details if he want. For now we can add that kind of comments only on new pages, so it would be quite confusing for newbies, that sometimes they get help and sometimes dont. But for sure it will be one of top priorities after main subpages will be finished.