Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

I don't wanna waste time on Greg's advocate, but here it goes...
He bought this game? From himself? Hahaha...

see, you don't know what's going on, and yet you talk

why do you think that Raul is the one talking for the owners and greg has been seen last years ago?

They had to rewrite old code? No, they just had to pay to get Flash replaced

XD

Yup, the communication sucks a lot

The changes are necessary, the alternative was to shut down the game, so if someone cries that they want the old sokker, then old sokker is an offline game with error 404 showing up

Criticism is fine, feedback is fine, opinions are fine - as long as there is any substance

People crying "I will stop playing", "I want old sokker" are soooo annoying

Of course things start heating up around here! The new sokker.org Era started of great, democratic, with the people being asked their opinions about the direction of the game, people even voted on some visual changes... they wore promised some things... and now it ends very dictatorial!
Thanks but no thanks!
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This is a great game and I will never leave.
95% of the crying people will not leave also, they know this game is meaning too much for them.

"When this game came to life, in 2004 - 2005, almost nobody played it on smartphone, since it was build as a browser game.
And now... the desktopplayers are a minority!"

Nope! :)
It is proven and has been reported on this topic that there was a fatal error in interpreting the numbers of visitors to the site.
There are many logs from users who are not at home and want to bid on players. The majority, about 80%, log in from the PC and stay connected to the PC for a longer time.

So, most of the users play Sokker on the desktop and sometimes they use their cell phones only for certain tasks.

We agree that Polish community is the one that should affect the entire procedure about improving the game.

But i am in a country (Cyprus - Kypros) that we have 12 users right now.2 users registered some days ago(did not login again since day 1)
.2 users are inactive for a long time now (almost a bot) and 2 users are active 3-4 times per month.The other5-6 users are more than active(with academies changing tactics playing junior league etc )

What is the problem according to that?? A league with 12 teams will push the bots to the A division reducing the level.

The solution for this is to improve the whole game (graphics, UI , Mobile App , put some extra competitions like continental cup(EURO - Copa Africa ,Copa America) or something like europa league- copa libertadores -copa sudamericana and then push the game with advertisements to bring new users.

Sokker doesnt need improvements to be a nice game .Devs must bring new users so the additions and improvements have point for the rest of us.

https://rejestr.io/krs/856010/sokker-manager

Borkos, who owns sokker?

As you see, there are 4 persons

The game was founded and owned by TWO (greg, Damian) for years

Now try to figure out what happened

The solution for this is to improve the whole game (graphics, UI , Mobile App , put some extra competitions like continental cup(EURO - Copa Africa ,Copa America) or something like europa league- copa libertadores -copa sudamericana and then push the game with advertisements to bring new users.

that's what they are trying/planning to do

but they have to start from basics, there's no point in advertising a game that is in bad shape and unfinished
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Scroll down ffs, see the number of shares of each person, and tell me do Greg and his younger brother own 80%?

Out of 98 countries 71 is below your said 100 users, 59 is below 50 that brings their user count to 1202 for these 59 countries, not 10-100.
Considering at least half the users are basically inactive - there are at least 50 countries who wont be able to fill first + 2nd divisions with fully active and competitive teams. That should be an issue devs should be thinking right now, not some time after couple years when making another league shake up will be more problematic than doing it right now when everything changes anyway.
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It doesn't matter who owns how much

Fact is, if new owners didn't bring the money and incentive, the game would be dead, because old owners wouldn't invest in it anymore

"or something like europa league- copa libertadores -copa sudamericana"

This will be the greatest improvement. Imho it should get a higher priority, especially because of small communities like the Cypriot sokker community.

Why argue about it if it doesn't matter? Good to know how much you can argue without knowing what you are talking about, real time-saving information.

I hope they don't make any changes other than implementing new leagues. I wanna see the mess. Some people were blabbing about management and adjusting, I'll be fine, I know that, but many won't and I can't wait to see it. They say you learn a lot from mistakes, so at least there is one positive thing coming for devs and the game.

You're the one who started arguing, I wasn't even talking to you and I still don't know what you want

So maybe I'll try to make it simple for you

No new owners (minority, but owners) and influx of their money to the game = no game in 2021, 404, bye bye

Do you see 5x15 DEF today? and MID 6x14? And ATT 5x15? And why do you think that by making players worse users will train more secondary skills? Your idea is cool in theory, but in practice it makes no sense.

Users will continue to train the primary skills as it is so important. And the secondary skills will get worse, making the game of football much uglier.