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28 years old have [4] talent in "Pace" from level [16] to [17] needs about 14 weeks of training for such a skillup.
And this is Maldini of sokker, sokkerl-legend Luissel. Aged 38 and he had a skillup in pass last week.
His manager commented: "I never see befor a 38y Player have that UP in passing, after a drop down for more then a Saison :) "
Imho one of the main reason of problems in sokker is that some information that is been repeated again and again, about training, about tactics etc is completely wrong. Like in real life... LOL
And this is Maldini of sokker, sokkerl-legend Luissel. Aged 38 and he had a skillup in pass last week.
His manager commented: "I never see befor a 38y Player have that UP in passing, after a drop down for more then a Saison :) "
Imho one of the main reason of problems in sokker is that some information that is been repeated again and again, about training, about tactics etc is completely wrong. Like in real life... LOL
About Panama: I am very hyppy to read, that your NT made the qualification without a striker of 3x18. It's one more argument, that tactics and strategy can win over higher skilled teams.
About the new training system: I think it creates the possibilty, especially for smaller communites, to make a better NT-roster.
e.g. With old training system: Nation with 2 users could train only some DEFs and some ATTs
With new training system: Nation with 2 users could train 20 players.
About the new training system: I think it creates the possibilty, especially for smaller communites, to make a better NT-roster.
e.g. With old training system: Nation with 2 users could train only some DEFs and some ATTs
With new training system: Nation with 2 users could train 20 players.
For me, I don't care if borkos007 is a gatekeeper, an investor or just a virtual bot.
For me it is mostly important that because of his answers I understood that the process of changes in sokker is much more complex than I imagined and now I am more tolerant of omissions, possible mistakes and delays.
For me it is mostly important that because of his answers I understood that the process of changes in sokker is much more complex than I imagined and now I am more tolerant of omissions, possible mistakes and delays.
I have seen it! :-))) insane, but nice stuff! Should happen more often!
What I do agree it with is that stamina should be hard to maintain at a high level after 30 years! So players after 30 should be more difficult to keep on the field 90 minutes.
Only time will tell... we all make decisions that are criticized by others.... so we will see in the next 2 years if dev's made the right decisions or not!
What I do agree it with is that stamina should be hard to maintain at a high level after 30 years! So players after 30 should be more difficult to keep on the field 90 minutes.
Only time will tell... we all make decisions that are criticized by others.... so we will see in the next 2 years if dev's made the right decisions or not!
First of all, sorry that the news was published on PL forum first, is our mistake and problems with translation, and you had to wait 2 days.
It will never happen again. Please find below original news with all details.
Dev Diary 60: Gameplay Reform – it is happening!
Let me start by sharing a few personal thoughts with you. There are news that you write because you have to, and there are also news when you enjoy typing every single letter, the announcement of which is the culmination of many months of hard work. The announced effect is the beginning of something long awaited, and the changes introduced are not only technical maintenance of the game, but its significant development. Therefore, with great satisfaction, on behalf of the entire Sokker Team, I announce that the start of the new season will be preceded by the long awaited reform of the tournament structure! ~Raul
THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGES:
- Extending the composition of each league - from the current 8 to 12 teams.
- Changing the calendar of competitions. The season will be reduced to 13 weeks in which matches will be played according to the scheme: league matches on Wednesdays and Sundays, cup / friendly matches on Fridays. Each team will play 22 league matches in a season instead of 14.
- Change of promotion rules. Most importantly, from the next season, league winners will always be promoted directly. On the other hand, teams in 2nd place will have their chance in play-offs. Places 3-6 will be safe, teams ranked 10-12 will demote directly, and those ranked 7-9 will have to defend their league presence in play-offs. We hope that this will affect the fierceness and attractiveness of the competition and each team will be committed to fighting for its goal throughout the season. Link to the new tournament calendar
NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS:
- The new system assumptions are that each lower league level has 3 times more teams than the preceding higher one, and therefore: 1 x 1st league, 3 x 2nd leagues, 9 x 3rd leagues, 27 x 4th leagues, etc. This change makes possible introduction of new promotion and relegation system, but also makes each level more exclusive and prestigious.
- The effect of the reform will be a change in the total number of teams at each league level. While the I and II levels of the game will increase their numbers, starting from the third league number of teams will be reduced. This is exactly illustrated by this table.
- The above changes require a new assignments to individual leagues. At the beginning of next season, old leagues will be reset and ALL teams will be assigned to the new leagues based on their performance this season, creating completely new composition of each league. We describe the rules of attribution in detail below.
RULES OF ASSIGNMENT TO NEW LEAGUES:
1. We play play-offs, promotions and relegations, as usual, at the end of the season.
2. We keep the score (points, goals) with which a given team was relegated or promoted.
3. We delete teams without players (e.g. in PL there are nearly 400 teams).
4. We sort the teams according to the collective tables of a given level of the game, assuming that:
- First, we sort the teams that fell from a higher league level (direct relegations from higher leagues, and play-off losers from higher leagues)
- Then the teams that stayed at the given level (play-off losers from the league level in question, and safe places 2-4)
- At the end, we sort the teams that have advanced to a given level (direct promotions from lower leagues, and play-off winners from lower leagues)
5. We remove all bot teams from the rankings. We adopt one rule: no login in the last 50 days. These teams will not be completely removed and if the owner returns someday, he will be able to resume the game with his own team, with his own resources, but from the lowest league level.
6. The tables created in this way will be the basis for assignment to new leagues.
NECESSARY BUT UNPOPULAR EFFECTS:
- As described above, the number of middle and lower levels of the game will decrease.
- The consequences of the change in the number of teams at a certain level will be situations in which:
a) teams that, according to the old system, would be promoted to a higher level, will remain at the current level.
b) teams that, according to the old system, would remain at the current level, will be assigned to a lower league.
- It is math, and a necessary, one-time adjustment.
- We hope that the increased possibility of promotion from next season and the greater attractiveness of the tournament will be a compensation for the owners of these teams.
- Despite many hours devoted to searching for solutions, in order to introduce changes, it was not possible to find a better solution. It is a necessary, but probably unpopular, effect.
THE EFFECT OF CHANGE ON TRAINING:
- Awaited by you, training reform will not start until the next season, so the next season will be a transitional period. New rules of the game, but still the old rules of training.
- Consequently, thanks to 3 "training" matches every week, it will be possible to train more players: e.g. 3 players with GK, 9 ATT, 15 MID or DEF and as many as 33 players training pace.
- It is also a small gift for you for your patience - use it for the season, in the next season there will be new rules.
- Shortening the season will reduce the number of trainings from 16 to 13 possible so far. Remember this when planning the careers of your pupils.
In final words, we hope the competition next season will be as fierce as the discussion under this post! Good luck to all of you! ~Raul
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It will never happen again. Please find below original news with all details.
Dev Diary 60: Gameplay Reform – it is happening!
Let me start by sharing a few personal thoughts with you. There are news that you write because you have to, and there are also news when you enjoy typing every single letter, the announcement of which is the culmination of many months of hard work. The announced effect is the beginning of something long awaited, and the changes introduced are not only technical maintenance of the game, but its significant development. Therefore, with great satisfaction, on behalf of the entire Sokker Team, I announce that the start of the new season will be preceded by the long awaited reform of the tournament structure! ~Raul
THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGES:
- Extending the composition of each league - from the current 8 to 12 teams.
- Changing the calendar of competitions. The season will be reduced to 13 weeks in which matches will be played according to the scheme: league matches on Wednesdays and Sundays, cup / friendly matches on Fridays. Each team will play 22 league matches in a season instead of 14.
- Change of promotion rules. Most importantly, from the next season, league winners will always be promoted directly. On the other hand, teams in 2nd place will have their chance in play-offs. Places 3-6 will be safe, teams ranked 10-12 will demote directly, and those ranked 7-9 will have to defend their league presence in play-offs. We hope that this will affect the fierceness and attractiveness of the competition and each team will be committed to fighting for its goal throughout the season. Link to the new tournament calendar
NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS:
- The new system assumptions are that each lower league level has 3 times more teams than the preceding higher one, and therefore: 1 x 1st league, 3 x 2nd leagues, 9 x 3rd leagues, 27 x 4th leagues, etc. This change makes possible introduction of new promotion and relegation system, but also makes each level more exclusive and prestigious.
- The effect of the reform will be a change in the total number of teams at each league level. While the I and II levels of the game will increase their numbers, starting from the third league number of teams will be reduced. This is exactly illustrated by this table.
- The above changes require a new assignments to individual leagues. At the beginning of next season, old leagues will be reset and ALL teams will be assigned to the new leagues based on their performance this season, creating completely new composition of each league. We describe the rules of attribution in detail below.
RULES OF ASSIGNMENT TO NEW LEAGUES:
1. We play play-offs, promotions and relegations, as usual, at the end of the season.
2. We keep the score (points, goals) with which a given team was relegated or promoted.
3. We delete teams without players (e.g. in PL there are nearly 400 teams).
4. We sort the teams according to the collective tables of a given level of the game, assuming that:
- First, we sort the teams that fell from a higher league level (direct relegations from higher leagues, and play-off losers from higher leagues)
- Then the teams that stayed at the given level (play-off losers from the league level in question, and safe places 2-4)
- At the end, we sort the teams that have advanced to a given level (direct promotions from lower leagues, and play-off winners from lower leagues)
5. We remove all bot teams from the rankings. We adopt one rule: no login in the last 50 days. These teams will not be completely removed and if the owner returns someday, he will be able to resume the game with his own team, with his own resources, but from the lowest league level.
6. The tables created in this way will be the basis for assignment to new leagues.
NECESSARY BUT UNPOPULAR EFFECTS:
- As described above, the number of middle and lower levels of the game will decrease.
- The consequences of the change in the number of teams at a certain level will be situations in which:
a) teams that, according to the old system, would be promoted to a higher level, will remain at the current level.
b) teams that, according to the old system, would remain at the current level, will be assigned to a lower league.
- It is math, and a necessary, one-time adjustment.
- We hope that the increased possibility of promotion from next season and the greater attractiveness of the tournament will be a compensation for the owners of these teams.
- Despite many hours devoted to searching for solutions, in order to introduce changes, it was not possible to find a better solution. It is a necessary, but probably unpopular, effect.
THE EFFECT OF CHANGE ON TRAINING:
- Awaited by you, training reform will not start until the next season, so the next season will be a transitional period. New rules of the game, but still the old rules of training.
- Consequently, thanks to 3 "training" matches every week, it will be possible to train more players: e.g. 3 players with GK, 9 ATT, 15 MID or DEF and as many as 33 players training pace.
- It is also a small gift for you for your patience - use it for the season, in the next season there will be new rules.
- Shortening the season will reduce the number of trainings from 16 to 13 possible so far. Remember this when planning the careers of your pupils.
In final words, we hope the competition next season will be as fierce as the discussion under this post! Good luck to all of you! ~Raul
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Awesome improvements on Leagues, congrats to the team!
I'm worried about injuries, for real, will be necessarie a 30 players squad?
I'm worried about injuries, for real, will be necessarie a 30 players squad?
we are in the middle of discission about injuries now (in devs squad) - we will let you all know as soon as we will make some final agreements.
Thans for the news Raul. :)
I still have the same question from (from 2022-01-09 19:03:54):
Will U21-matches still be played on Fridays and NT-matches on Saturdays?
I still have the same question from (from 2022-01-09 19:03:54):
Will U21-matches still be played on Fridays and NT-matches on Saturdays?
my personal reco is to move it to saturdays - but it's not sure yet.
On which day does the training fall.
Last match order counts for training. If a player plays DEF and then MID, he is treated as MID for training. What if a player plays MID DEF MID, does he get max MID training (2 matches as MID)?
Last match order counts for training. If a player plays DEF and then MID, he is treated as MID for training. What if a player plays MID DEF MID, does he get max MID training (2 matches as MID)?
with the shortening of the calendar, will there be an impact on the Young school, will there be any adjustment in time and training?
I still totally dont understand what happens to the teams in highest division. after this season.
What happens to place 8 ( lowest place now) in highest division for example?
Where is he going to play next season?
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What happens to place 8 ( lowest place now) in highest division for example?
Where is he going to play next season?
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i'm not sure how it works now (probably in that case it only counts last game) but in new training system will count all minutes from possition you prefer - no matter what was his last game.
You will be able to pick up training
You will be able to pick up training
Did read it twice now but dont understand where place 8 of the highest division will play next season.
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