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Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

2022-02-14 20:59:44
the market is on fire, and i hope in a couple of days we will see a market more stable, if not we are going to have a huge problem, people is overpaying youngs in a level i have never seen!
2022-02-14 21:08:06
yea... but now teams that have 22 plaeyers... need to buy 11 more.

And lets be onest... here in sokker various big teams train speed or other training. So now the market needs to produce more players for big teams. That means less good cuality playes for other teams.
2022-02-14 21:43:47
at the end what will be schedule for world cup for NT and qualifiers for u21NT?

+1
2022-02-14 22:28:12
"...Cause the champions from 2nd level will automatically promote to fill the first division ...."

Dtox7 at his best! LOL
You want me to loose my promotion and you wrote it especially for me with the intention to confuse me, not? ;P
Once again: LOL ;)
2022-02-15 07:31:41
You should make sure that NT matches are the first matches after training, otherwise NT coaches can mess up somebodies training with a wrong order. Probably both need to fall on Saturday, training in the morning, NT matches during the day.
I disagree: NT coaches would have too little time at their disposal to make the formation. Not for everyone Sokker is the only daily commitment...
;-)
For me training on Thursdays is perfect.
2022-02-15 07:38:37
Don't forget to implement my idea of the calendar order for all competitions! You accepted it.
;-)

[accept] League calendar order
2020-05-17 19:14:27
Alienomo a Tutti
I'd prefer if the order of the first seven matches of the season would be the same of the order of the last seven matches. Even for all the other competitions.
So...
1vs8
1vs7
1vs6
1vs5
1vs4
1vs3
1vs2
--------
1vs8
1vs7
1vs6
1vs5
1vs4
1vs3
1vs2
2022-02-15 07:46:43
Just to clarify the Belgian (and maybe other countries) situation a little.

Current situation
First league has 8 teams
4 2nd leagues with 8 teams (n=32)
16 3rd leagues with 8 teams (n=128)
16 4th leagues with 8 teams (n=128)
Total = 328 teams

Situation Next season
First league with 12 teams
3 2nd leagues with 12 teams (n=36)
9 3rd leagues with 12 teams (n=108)
27 4th leagues with 12 teams (n=324)
Total = 480 teams


Questions:
There will be new teams added? (Going from 328 teams to 480?)
Or the number of 4th leagues will be reduced?
The champions from 2nd league will go straight to 1st league
1st league = 8+4 = solved
2nd league = 32-4 = 28 (we need 36 teams)
There need to be 8 teams from 3rd league added, this will be decided on highest number of points of all the champions from the 3rd league? Or will you let a play off happen for all the champions in 3rd league? All the winners advance to 2nd league? That way 50% of champions will be advancing to 2nd league?
Letting a playoff happen feels more correct imo, some divisions have stronger teams and the champion might have less points, even though they have a stronger team.
Or 8 champions (with higher points) promote without playoff and playoff between 8 champions (with lower points) and bottom 2 places from each 2nd league

2nd league (28) + 8 playoff champion 3rd league winners or 8 with highest points go straight to 2nd league en other 8 playoff vs bottom 2 from 2nd league = 36 => solved
120 teams remain 3rd league, so 12 worst teams relegate?
Situation for 4th and 3rd league is similar to 2nd and 3rd league?
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2022-02-15 09:18:48
where is the futur of our game?
In the junior academy, where the futur stars are trained first . I think that it is a huge error to ignore them in the reforme.
2022-02-15 09:22:00
So 20 teams from the 3rd League will be relegated to the 4th League "for no reason at all"?!
Do you think that this users will be happy?
Their income will drop down to 50% and 10% (?) of their supporters will leave... will they survive?
2022-02-15 09:35:35
youth academy will have it's own reform in few seasons, so we will try to upgrade it with one large update.
For now it simply stays as it is, it's a transition period, we simply cant change everything at one time - and also our experiences with new pages are, that it's much better to introduce changes one by one, it helps everyone to adopt more easly.

For now yep - shorter season means a bit older juniors when they sign contracts, it means also a less multidivine players.
But its our goal, to reduce number of max-skill players, so for now it will help to reach that goal.

You need to remember, that it's all about current perception who is a good player - there are some habits we have according to current players database (3x superdivine is a common thing even in polsih IV league).
In the future hopefully you will need to decide what are your tactical priorities, and choose between fast striker and technical one. Even Lewandowski in Sokker should be rather like 3x16, than 3x18, as it is now.

But for sure youth reform will help to reduce randomness in youth training - you will be able to have more control about junior progress, you will be able to estimate their possitions etc, so it should help a lot.
2022-02-15 10:05:16
Not 20 teams, but only 8.
4 teams form 2nd league will go to 1st league -> 2nd league now have 8 free spots to be taken from 3rd league. So 8 teams that should be promoted from 4th league to 3rd league will not receive a promotion. I do not take bot accounts into consideration, which will increase amount of free spots in leagues.
2022-02-15 10:34:41
...I forgot about the ones being automatically promoted. thanks!
2022-02-15 11:58:08
In my opinion, defining a world class striker as a player that is superdivine in pace, tech and att is too simplistic.
Looking at Lewandowski or Ronaldo. Don't they have the ability to pass to a teammate (passing), in time (playmaking), choosing the right option (playmaking), or pressure an opponent and rob the ball (defending)?

My definition of a world class striker in sokker looks more like this:

formidable stamina, tragic keeper
superdivine pace, outstanding defender
superdivine technique, formidable playmaker
incredible passing, superdivine striker

That's a player that can perfectly participate in the game, instead of just running into the nearest defender, losing the ball.
And there are already very few players in the game that look like this.

Now, if you take the strikers and your goal is that only few of them will reach 3x superdivine by reducing the amount of training that they receive, this will have extremely dire consequences for other positions. Defenders and especially defmids need a certain amount of "b-skills" to perform.

At the moment it's not the case that the players on the field are that capable and behave that intelligent, that they can afford to lose some more skills.
There is a real danger that the quality of the games will suffer greatly, especially in lower leagues the matches will become even more unwatchable.
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2022-02-15 12:08:04
The best 1st in Ligue 2, normally he goes straight up.. that's always the case, isn't it?
But suddenly the 2nd will not be able to go up since the 1st goes up, is that right?
2022-02-15 12:08:17
You need to remember, that it's all about current perception who is a good player - there are some habits we have according to current players database (3x superdivine is a common thing even in polsih IV league).
In the future hopefully you will need to decide what are your tactical priorities, and choose between fast striker and technical one. Even Lewandowski in Sokker should be rather like 3x16, than 3x18, as it is now.


understanding that the devs maintain the intention of adding a new maximum level of ability (it would be mega-divine or similar)?
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2022-02-15 12:18:19
Agree. Such a change should go in hand with ME update, otherwise game quality will simply get worse. Everyone will still try to get maximum amount of "main" skills - pace/tech/striker or pace/def and secondaries will be left low.
Maybe some kind of change that significantly slows down training of skills 15+ while making lower skills train faster? Like if you had a choice between getting striker from 15 to 16 OR get one of pass/pm/def from 6 to 10 in the same timeframe.
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