Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

Div1 7-5 places. Div1 teams can throw the games - they are safe but div2 winners must win to avoid a chance of not getting in higher division.

1. We play play-offs, promotions and relegations, as usual, at the end of the season.
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Its good if we see something not right to tell the Devs about it,
so they can fix it soon.

There r many complains -not from me- in the forum about injuries,
when a season start and a player lost double days to play,
or train...imagine that.

If we wait to see the obvious,that the low communities will struggle in time.
the damage will be huge.

If the target from the devs is to have less 3x17+ atts and equivalent mids/defs, but still have them - 100% this. Instead of hundreds Poland etc will have some - enough for an NT still. Others will be lucky with 1 every couple generations or have none at all so the difference between countries will increase.

On the other hand the very small countries will benefit from a chance for any one manager to train almost whole NT in all positions.
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Pandula explained very accurate in theory and now a real example for Belgium.

If relegation would be now, then:

A)
smollie Eerste Klasse, place 8 moves to 2de Klasse.04
FC Kings Erotica 2de Klasse.04, best among 1st places moves to Eerste Klasse

B) Relegation matches:
Eerste Klasse, 7th: The DragonBall Team F.C. : Coon and friends 2de Klasse.03 (2nd best champion of 2nd league)
Eerste Klasse, 6th: KVV Brugge United : Damburgers 2de Klasse.01 (3rd best champion of 2nd league)
Eerste Klasse , 5th: Gjoernin : Sigur 2de Klasse.02 (4th best champion of 2nd league)

C) Re-structure

C1) smollie Eerste Klasse, place 8 , back to Eerste Klasse

C2) If any other team of Eerste Klasse has lost relegation match, it will be set back at Eerste Klasse
So now, on Eerste Klasse there are ate least 9 teams. All 8 from past season, plus best team of 2de Klasse, FC Kings Erotica (I love this name!)... plus teams from 2de Klasse, if they have won relegation

Now, the crucial point!!!
C3-I) If Coon and friends or if Damburgers have lost relegation, they will be set to Eerste Klasse, because no other team from 2de Klasse.has more points, than they have
(FC Kings Erotica 33 points, but already promoted, Coon and friends 33 points, Damburgers 29 points, the rest less points)

C3-II) IF Sigur (2de Klasse.02) looses relegation match, then on Eerste Klasse comes Fc de Mazzel (2nd team of 2de Klasse.01), because Fc de Mazzel has better results than Sigur
Fc de Mazzel 25 points, goals 67:14
Sigur 25 points, goals 38:11

Tell me you have understand it now, otherwise I will degrade you to Dtox10... ;P

You can't train untalent players for the National team.
Is impossible to have a decent NT with not talented players.
Dosn't matter if you have 33 or 103 training space for it.

So the Devs first must solve all those problems and after that to make a new system.
There are problems with injuries with the bad ssystem of forms,and talent from Academies.

If they find a solution asap with the new system ..i don't know..then everyone will be happy

best strategy for teams in small countries is to try to sell as soon as possible the best U21 players. There is the money for them.

It will not affect clubs because everyone will have this "world" pool to buy players. Tactical variety and many other thing will make this game a lot more interesting. With NT , it will be completely different story because of big countries with a looooot bigger pool to choose from. I see it as a urgent Problem and it needs very fast a proper solution.
On first thought it looks very bad.
However... they said it will be possible after youth reform to get players from other countries in your youth school.
It will be possible only if you invest x ammount of money and build the highest level YS.

My proposal to this urgent problem would be to allow "juniors with other nationality" a lot earlier, like in a second level ys upgrade.
It would still be possible with the first level to have only juniors with the user nationality, but there should be a little consequence. This would be that from those juniors , maybe 5-10% could be good(have potential) as those with higher level ys.


Little example : i am from Bosnia and have 20 juniors. I have 10 from Bosnia and maybe one of them has potential for u21 team, but not for main NT.
I have 10 from other nationalities and from those 10 i have one who has a potential to play easily for one of the top 15 NT.
So , i would be of great service to this NT. Someone else would be of great service to other NT´s.
It would also drasticaly shift the numbers of players from just few countries, to more global pool of players.

Let´s say sokker has 100 countries and 10 000 users(easiest to calculate with).
Country x has 3000 users or roughly 30% managers and has a pool of 30%(roughly) players of whole sokker world.
That would be the old system.

The new sistem :
The same country still has 30% of users.
Howewer, due to new ys sistem it will now produce maybe 5% of the whole sokker players database from own ys. Other few percent(5%) would come from other users arround the world.

It would be great to have thoose usable top players from all nationalities better distributed arround the whole sokker youth schools.

I am not saying that some super small countries should be on a level with other country that has 1000x more users, but the difference in usable players produced should not be 1000 but a lot lower.
All countries should be taken into account and top talents should be worldwide produced in all teams with different nationalities from own, albeit those "active manager percentages" should be taken into account.

You didn't need to explain in full detail...
Saying, they have to play 5-7 places of 1st class was enough.
Though I find that part really ridiculous.
Playing a play-off that only might affect 1 team and the other team is immune to results. Shitty play-offs design if you ask me!

not immune... losing a promotion/relegation game is really costly in terms of fans mood and the size of the fan club.

Any change about ticket collection/sponsorship?

How about assimilation and changing a players nationality?
If a player plays for more than 5 seasons in a certain country, the manager who owns him has the option to change irreversibly his nationality to that of the country he has played in for the last 5 years!
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As I understand player updates are still on thursday?

I think this will be a mass....
Example: someone wants to train a striker at tech with MID order at friday. After that the U21/NT manager decides to put the same player with ATT order at friday/saturday....
Say goodbye to your tech training at friday....
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I assume that It won't change in next season, so there might be some problems with that, indeed...
Clear communication with the NT coaches will be key!
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I did contact some coaches already and they refuse to put them with MID order.

So next season the U21 coach decides my training :(
I have plenty of U21 players, so all of them MUST play in my first team, otherwise they have no training :(
Relegation for sure next season for me.

So enormous disadvantage for having u21 players next season.
There are also some managers now that refuse to send me updates because of this, I understand that...

Simple solution:

Put all U21/NT matches at saturday.
Change the day of update from thursday morning to saturday morning.
Everything works fine than :)
Does not look like a very difficult change and makes the game user friendly again.
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the part that all training minutes with training order count and not only the last, should be separated from the training reform and should be implemented with the league reform next season. If not, forum Mods will have a lot of work with complaints next season.