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Subject: »[info]Dev Diary #82: Automatic release of NT-players from

2022-02-16 13:25:54
the part that all training minutes with training order count and not only the last, should be separated from the training reform and should be implemented with the league reform next season. If not, forum Mods will have a lot of work with complaints next season.
2022-02-16 13:37:47
- Consequently, thanks to 3 "training" matches every week, it will be possible to train more players: e.g. 3 players with GK, 9 ATT, 15 MID or DEF, and as many as 33 players training pace.
- It is also a small gift for you for your patience - use it for the season, in the next season there will be new rules.


A gift ???? That's a joke, no ?
This is only a gift for wild traders. Next seasons will be wonderful for the farming teams sleeping on the bottom of their league.
They will be able to train 5+5+5 players, they don't care about the official matches outcome.
But the users playing competitively will more certainly play with the same 11 in the 2 official games so they will train 10 players like now.

Then we have this wonderful RULES OF ASSIGNMENT TO NEW LEAGUES where nobody gets relegated from the 1st league.
So for what did we fight since 10 weeks ? For having 5 additional fans each weeks ?
I also predict that in 1st division some teams will play with B team from now and during the play off games in order to optimize the youngster training because anyway they will not get relegated.
This will completely mess up with the equity for the teams trying to get promoted from the 2nd league since the play off outcome will play a role.
2022-02-16 13:42:53
You have to be fun at parties ;)

mauser

the part that all training minutes with training order count and not only the last, should be separated from the training reform and should be implemented with the league reform next season. If not, forum Mods will have a lot of work with complaints next season.


good idea but its not that easy implemented I think as all training is connected to it
2022-02-16 15:00:34
juytt to Poey
Even better Simple solution : remove dependency of position order on training.

4 reasons why this dependency is a fail :

1) Tactics are designed for training first to not loose trainings. Finally, We usually don't compose team for challenge first.

2) We are dependent of NT coach orders choices. Finally, NT can be a punishment rather than a reward.

3) We have to check carefully match composition when we change training / tactics because of the position order dependency. Finally, We are not very motivated to change.

4) It is not obvious, or even counter-intuitive, to understand the dependency of position order on the training. Finally beginners are lost and loose trainings.
2022-02-16 15:06:10
and again not a single word about nT fixtures next season...
2022-02-16 15:07:40
In the end all the next reforms proposed by the devs are built upon the existing core. Since the foundation doesn't change the gameplay problems will be at best mitigated but never solved or questioned.
2022-02-16 15:10:28
oh really ? I had forgotten that I would probably still be NT coach next season. We will need to be brave.
2022-02-16 15:22:50
Poey to juytt
And more People that wont update U21 players because of this big mistake :(

Please solve this before next season.
So updates at saturday instead of thursday or arrange that playing orders are no longer important for the training.
2022-02-16 16:14:44
And it's not only about NTs.
When I want to train these 50% more players, I'm forced to get them on market, when this rule with the orders from last played game stays. Instead I would like to train more players, which are already in my squad. This is bizarre, when this is not being changed.

Or is it a lesson on the mechanics of economy? ;)
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2022-02-16 16:16:42
+1
2022-02-16 16:29:56
Hi ,
is there any new about having 7 players in the bench? with 2 matches per week this will help avoid complications in training
2022-02-16 16:49:04
my friend, I encourage you to get U21 Kenyan players and we will always agree upon the order.

As U21 NT coach I am ALWAYS looking for maximizing the training my guys get. I think that's the spirit of most U21 NT coaches. I can't say the same for NT coaches, but training is not that important there.
2022-02-16 17:38:06
It could get pretty messy if it stays like this.
Too many opportunities to f..k up training.

and again not a single word about nT fixtures next season...

.. like it they don't matter.
2022-02-16 17:44:38
Otherwise, I have played a game which died because of Flash stopped working, so I am totally aware of it was needed to make adjustments to make this game still exist. I am really thankful for that.
2022-02-16 17:48:56
I am thankfull also, but changes must not have negative effects on the most important thing in this game: training.
Without training no Sokker.
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2022-02-16 19:38:35
Dtox9 to Poey
Remove training from NT / U21 and make NT / U21 arcade-like matches, solely for it's own purpose...where injuries from league do not count for NT and vice versa.

As for skills viewable for NT / U21 coaches...
Give all coaches the option to show their players skills to NT / U21 coach and in turn, make the wages refundable for all matches they are selected within the line-up or bench spots.

Another solution, if these things are not up for debate this season...
NT / U21 matches on fridays, friendly / cup matches on saturdays